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    One champion adds more credibility. Carry the same roster show to show and have a proper system where we have the tag division, mid card talent for the IC/US Titles, and our main event area for the ONE top title.

    8 years and counting!

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    Like the good old days, but this is the way it is now and i feel maybe triple H will change that when he is in full charge

    I USE FULL CHARGE LIGHTLY

    Because Vince will still be pulling the string on his money making baby


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    Have two main titles give more top level talent more opportunities to shine but i dont see it happening and since thats the case they need more compelling storylines and push the evolope again to keep most fans interested.

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    Thing is, until the PG crap is gone they are VERY limited to what they can do for storyline angles.

    8 years and counting!

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    Linda is no longer running for anything so i dont see why they cant push the envolope again.

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    Right the problems are as follows

    Two top titles, can be fixed with not a selective few. But a selective many, let more have shots at the title or unify them

    PG era, is a pain and a sucker for the kiddy factor and family aspect that sucks the life out if old skool wrestling unpredictability

    The PG era can stick, if the hands that feed it. Give us more bite

    The wrestling layout is so fucked up that one end is great and the other is so shit.

    PPV's are to many and as many have stated, less build up to matches and the storylines are so so dry and confusing. Also they change every second

    To many programs on t.v that can not keep track of all wrestlers, because its kiddy driven

    Reduce the kiddy product to at least 4 daytime shows a week..

    The main and main reason all is going to screwed up and money makers

    Is the decisions the writers, boardroom, Vince, triple h and others make. If the decisions from all of these, more so from the top is fixed and the company understand that they will not always top the ratings of the past

    Unless they understand what made them ratings so so high in the past. They will forever stuck in the illusion of self importance and are product is the most amazing wrestling company in the world.

    If they take each program, marketing, sales of products and wrestlers as if they were back in the old ways... They could recapture the attention of the fans that crave the thrill of what use to be
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    I remember reading in the past that the whole reasoning behind the movement to PG was simply because of a lucrative deal the WWE signed with toy manufacturers. In order for them to be on-board the WWE needed to tone down their content to appease the manufacturers. That deal was long term I'm afraid to say.

    8 years and counting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justintheman87 View Post
    I remember reading in the past that the whole reasoning behind the movement to PG was simply because of a lucrative deal the WWE signed with toy manufacturers. In order for them to be on-board the WWE needed to tone down their content to appease the manufacturers. That deal was long term I'm afraid to say.
    That makes sense however their fan base gets older they need to appease those fans as well.

    On a side note I'm tired of this cena aj this its awkward watching cena and her kiss....its like cena doesn't like it... Lmao

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    The aj cena story is killing me to the put that I want to destory the WWE with a block of cheese,, cheese everyone down stone dead and spread them lightly over some crackers and toast...


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    Whenever i record RAW, i find myself fast fowarding nearly EVERYTHING, that doesnt contain Punk or Bryan on the screen, The rest of the product is a joke......PG wont be going anywhere guys.

    Expecting big things of the Shield though.....especially Rollins and Reigns

    Thanks to Final for the sick sig!

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    The problem is, the attacks on wrestlers part of the storyline and stuff. Is they can not expand beyond putting them through a table or a few hits with a chair and the wrestler has to sell it has a extremely rough beat down.


    The old era, was two tables, three wrestlers and a chair... It was destructive marriage bless




    Now its a table, one baby beating and a possible chair.
    It's like breast feeding a idea and staying wait I am still breast feeding, just use a table and make him sell it as if it was a extremely rough beat down


    What a freaking joke
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    Remember when Austin beat the crap out of Vince in the hospital room? How about when he sprayed down the corporation using a beer truck? These clips were not only entertaining but helped add a total all out element that only the old WWE could provide. With the PG rating they are capped at how they can develop real storyline angles, and sadly limits them to only allowing bullshit boring, non believable crap.

    Remember when Stephanie walked in on HHH helping Trish Stratus do some stretches?! PRICELESS. Or when he and Steph got married at the drive-thru wedding chapel in Vegas?

    These events will forever live in my mind as a wrestling fan. The last GREAT moment was CM Punks EPIC promo, but in the end the WWE fucked that all up.

    8 years and counting!

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    Not entertaining but it was very controversial, but dare I mention the Katie Vick segment with Triple H acting as Kane?

    I just read your line about Stone Cold beating the crap out of Vince in the hospital room and it instantly reminded me of when he beat the crap out of Michael Cole on Smackdown when he was part of the Alliance

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    Here is the best thing of everything you could mention about the era of past,


    IT WAS FUCKING WRESTLING AND KIDS BACK THEN ACTUALLY CARED AND WANTED THEM BE FUCKED UP AND SCREWED OVER

    AND THE PARENTS DID NOT CARE BACK THEN


    It's the WWE that's changed not the fans
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    The WWE needed to do daring and bold things to entice its audience to stay on board as they had severe competition with the then WCW. If they had ANY current competition they would more than likely try a bit harder. What baffles my mind is the fact their ratings are in a decline yet they deliver the same crap formula week in and week out. It makes me believe that what I mentioned earlier to be true. They are stuck delivering a PG product due to the contract they signed with various toy manufacturers.

    8 years and counting!

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    The ratings in decline and the same craps every week. Because they are still making millions and the PG era is for kids only. The day of purity is long past


    IT'S LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON, ONLY LIKES THEM BEFORE THEIR BALLS DROP


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    HHH is an Attitude Era born and bred wrestler. I believe if he gets 100% control we will notice a shift in the direction of the company. They need to cater to a more mature audience, as lets face it the mature audience has the money to spend, not the 5 year old children who worship John Cena.

    8 years and counting!

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    Well, some of the wrestling websites are marking CM PUNKS accomplishments and what he could achieve if he keeps the title

    Here is a link

    http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/1...ccomplishments
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    Very nice.

    If only that title held more meaning as it did when other greats had it on their shoulder. Or perhaps this is what the WWE is trying to accomplish with CM Punk's title reign.

    8 years and counting!

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    Talk about Ryback and WrestleMania:

    Apparently, original plans were for him to face Taker, but that has been nixed. Now it seems likely that if Taker competes at Mania he will face CM Punk.
    As for Ryberg, he will apparently face Big Show - whether it'll be for the World Heavyweight title or not remains to be seen. But they want Berg to have a "WrestleMania Moment" where he can lift Big Show over his shoulders and perform his finisher; so if that is the case, Ryback will win.

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    Man talk about making so obvious...

    This would most likely the road they will go down.
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    But all can change at the last last last minute


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    Big show and ryback would be a great WM match....Hopefully ryberg can get his ring work more polished by then I read CM punk is going to be in the main event so i would assume he be invovled with the WWE title picture somehow

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    Now if punk won against cena and the rock in a triple threat WWE title match.. Were he is. Champion going into the match...


    This would make him the man of 2013.. Also hopefully put to rest the cena vs rock crap


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    I'm thinking its gonna be a triple threat. They can promote it to be a feud 3 years in the making! Lol

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    (Potential) Spoilers for the WWE title match at TLC:


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