Professional Wrestling Thread

[claud3]

I Do not hate the rock, he is an excellent wrestling talent.. But its a worse state of affairs if they need him when the ratings are terrible.... And to give him a title shot and him not to defend it for months on end


Makes not bloodly sense at all... Its unfair to the actual wrestlers that are there day in day out and the WWE need to be wise to the stupid move and impact this will have on the company and wrestlers in general

[three3-times]

Do you really think Vince cares about that?!

[Molo316]

I Do not hate the rock, he is an excellent wrestling talent.. But its a worse state of affairs if they need him when the ratings are terrible.... And to give him a title shot and him not to defend it for months on end


Makes not bloodly sense at all... Its unfair to the actual wrestlers that are there day in day out and the WWE need to be wise to the stupid move and impact this will have on the company and wrestlers in general

I agree with that, and thus was CM Punk's grind when he did his epic promo.

[claud3]

Vince is odd and cares for money

[Molo316]

End of discussion.

I always dreaded the day that Triple H and Stephanie took over the WWE once Vince packs it in, but the way things have turned out, I'm somewhat welcoming Triple H. If he continues the way he is it might be promising. He hasn't done too bad in reigniting the tag team division, although Cody Rhodes has now gotten injured. He seems to want to show more light to upcoming talent too.

[DeviousOne]

We really don't know if the rrock will leave or not be on tb during his title rain? I would like to believe that they wouldn't let that happen have an absent champion but now a days who knows?

[Yuuichi]

We really don't know if the rrock will leave or not be on tb during his title rain? I would like to believe that they wouldn't let that happen have an absent champion but now a days who knows?

Vince would because it is the rock. I really thhink he will be an absant champion and I hope every week Cena dogs him for it. Heck he prob won't even defend at elimination chamber if he's champ.

[Molo316]

[claud3]

2013, is the time that the WWE might and hopefully go back to the 2-hour show again and this is excellent news.. This means more packed in and actual quality WWE skills at work again..

Plus it's the 2-hour show with hopefully high ratings again and no craming the stories over a long period to fit the 3-hour show

Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

-- Coming off the heels of the third andfinal hourofMonday's RAW broadcast suffering a fifteen percent dropinviewership,Comcast's listing forMondaynight programming on the USA Network (availableat TVGuide.com) has a rerun of NCIS: Los Angeles (2009 episode "Deliverance") airing during the 8:00 p.m. time slot with RAW listed as a two-hour-and-five-minute program beginning at 9:00p.m.

The first hour of Monday's show garnered4,147,000 viewers, with hour two slightly dropping 4,126,000. The third hour,however,suffered its sharpestdecline since the program was lengthened to three hours inJuly,droppingto3,488,000 viewers. It marked as the fifteenth consecutive week andeighteenth weekout ofnineteen weeks where viewership dropped off during the third hour.

-- Ring of Honor wrestler Mike Bennett met with WWE officials last week. Additional

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/1...-raw-returning

[justintheman87]

What the WWE NEEDS to do, but will never do is lower their total amount of PPV's each year. The fact they cram in 13 PPV's during a calendar year is terrible. How are they supposed to build proper feuds/story lines that the fans will buy into? You can't create main event hype for a match in 3 weeks. Look:

Week 1: "Hey you gave him a match for the title but I wanted a title shot!"
Week 2: Random run in to screw the other guy out of his title shot.
Week 3: Someone does their finisher to the other guy as the show ends.....

*Rinse and repeat*

I remember waiting 3 months for a match between two top level talents. The build was just as exciting (if not more) as the actual match. Great booking, great story lines, proper build, and devotion will get them back the ratings they have lost. Why can't they see this? Well general rule is 13 PPV's vs 6 PPV's means I should generate more revenue. In the end this is not necessarily true by checking the buy rates of their PPV events.

On average a decent PPV will garner 250,000 buys, so 250,000 x 13 = 3, 250, 000.

Now if a PPV were built CORRECTLY over TIME the buy rates would for surely jump. So lets say the WWE lowered their PPV events to 6 per year and averaged 600,000 buys each. 600,000 x 6 = 3, 600, 000. Now this is just rough thinking, but if done correctly each PPV could create the buy rates similar to their flagship showings such as SummerSlam, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, or even Wrestlemania.

[DeviousOne]

What the WWE NEEDS to do, but will never do is lower their total amount of PPV's each year. The fact they cram in 13 PPV's during a calendar year is terrible. How are they supposed to build proper feuds/story lines that the fans will buy into? You can't create main event hype for a match in 3 weeks. Look:

Week 1: "Hey you gave him a match for the title but I wanted a title shot!"
Week 2: Random run in to screw the other guy out of his title shot.
Week 3: Someone does their finisher to the other guy as the show ends.....

*Rinse and repeat*

I remember waiting 3 months for a match between two top level talents. The build was just as exciting (if not more) as the actual match. Great booking, great story lines, proper build, and devotion will get them back the ratings they have lost. Why can't they see this? Well general rule is 13 PPV's vs 6 PPV's means I should generate more revenue. In the end this is not necessarily true by checking the buy rates of their PPV events.

On average a decent PPV will garner 250,000 buys, so 250,000 x 13 = 3, 250, 000.

Now if a PPV were built CORRECTLY over TIME the buy rates would for surely jump. So lets say the WWE lowered their PPV events to 6 per year and averaged 600,000 buys each. 600,000 x 6 = 3, 600, 000. Now this is just rough thinking, but if done correctly each PPV could create the buy rates similar to their flagship showings such as SummerSlam, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, or even Wrestlemania.

I def agree with you! Paying for all those PPV's gets expensive 50 a pop 14 times a year that's what 700 a year smh. I don't pay for them anymore but still it was the only reason why I was even considering getting the WWE network for the PPV's being included with membership but having heard anything about it in months so most likely its not gonna happen now.

I was playing wwe 13 the attitude era and was thinking TNA should just do a monday night show. I've been to a live tna its interesting enough to compete. The impact show I went to was more interesting that any raw I've seen lately overall Hogan even came out and it was free to go lol.

I think the wwe needs some competition

[three3-times]

Never gonna happen. TNA will NEVER even come close to rivalling the WWE. They are lucky Vince dont buy them!

As long as Punk and Bryan are on tv, im happy.

And wtf is up with Bryan losing all the time?! Fuckers

[DeviousOne]

Never gonna happen. TNA will NEVER even come close to rivalling the WWE. They are lucky Vince dont buy them!

As long as Punk and Bryan are on tv, im happy.

And wtf is up with Bryan losing all the time?! Fuckers

The only thing they don't have is a CM punk or cena however they have a solid roster better than most of wwe's mid card scene. Their production cost is so low they should just do it what do they have to lose lmao

[claud3]

It seems that the WWE is staying 3 hours from now on.... It was miscommunication with them

That sucks big time now

[DeviousOne]

4million viewers is pretty good its on the upside to say the least

[justintheman87]

It is damn near impossible to keep viewers tuned in for 3 hours!

In my opinion they need to go back to the 2 hour format, get rid of the two "top" belts and unify them (have just one title), then rid us FULLY of the stupidity that is the brand split between Raw and Smackdown.

[DeviousOne]

I don't think they will ever do that they get more money have 2 shows with 2 champs.

Business wise not a good move to unify fanwise pisses us off but you'll watch anyways lmao

[claud3]

We will go round circle on this title unify and one brand rules... But the fact remains that will never happen

Because they make so much money from both brands and equal to more viewers for each brand. More so for raw brand..

The WWE will never change the formula, unless something like huge money is lost...

[justintheman87]

One champion adds more credibility. Carry the same roster show to show and have a proper system where we have the tag division, mid card talent for the IC/US Titles, and our main event area for the ONE top title.

[claud3]

Like the good old days, but this is the way it is now and i feel maybe triple H will change that when he is in full charge

I USE FULL CHARGE LIGHTLY

Because Vince will still be pulling the string on his money making baby

[DeviousOne]

Have two main titles give more top level talent more opportunities to shine but i dont see it happening and since thats the case they need more compelling storylines and push the evolope again to keep most fans interested.

[justintheman87]

Thing is, until the PG crap is gone they are VERY limited to what they can do for storyline angles.

[DeviousOne]

Linda is no longer running for anything so i dont see why they cant push the envolope again.

[claud3]

Right the problems are as follows

Two top titles, can be fixed with not a selective few. But a selective many, let more have shots at the title or unify them

PG era, is a pain and a sucker for the kiddy factor and family aspect that sucks the life out if old skool wrestling unpredictability

The PG era can stick, if the hands that feed it. Give us more bite

The wrestling layout is so fucked up that one end is great and the other is so shit.

PPV's are to many and as many have stated, less build up to matches and the storylines are so so dry and confusing. Also they change every second

To many programs on t.v that can not keep track of all wrestlers, because its kiddy driven

Reduce the kiddy product to at least 4 daytime shows a week..

The main and main reason all is going to screwed up and money makers

Is the decisions the writers, boardroom, Vince, triple h and others make. If the decisions from all of these, more so from the top is fixed and the company understand that they will not always top the ratings of the past

Unless they understand what made them ratings so so high in the past. They will forever stuck in the illusion of self importance and are product is the most amazing wrestling company in the world.

If they take each program, marketing, sales of products and wrestlers as if they were back in the old ways... They could recapture the attention of the fans that crave the thrill of what use to be

[justintheman87]

I remember reading in the past that the whole reasoning behind the movement to PG was simply because of a lucrative deal the WWE signed with toy manufacturers. In order for them to be on-board the WWE needed to tone down their content to appease the manufacturers. That deal was long term I'm afraid to say.