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    Quote Originally Posted by DayWalker View Post
    Personally, I think Barry would have gotten there with or without steroids.
    he had a great career well before he started cheating (allegedly)
    There is absolutely no way Barry hits 756 without the juice. He would've still been first-ballot HOF, but not where he is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonsAuto View Post
    There is absolutely no way Barry hits 756 without the juice. He would've still been first-ballot HOF, but not where he is now.
    I guess we'll never know... which is the problem

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    well i hope he gets an infection and is crippled in some way

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    Quote Originally Posted by DINAMO788 View Post
    well i hope he gets an infection and is crippled in some way


    wow... just wow...

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    How come YOU GUYs don't get on giambi' a*s every time he hits a homer...? seriously it's hypocritical ...I dont see any hate sign about giambi, every game he plays is history too.
    Lol I cant stand him either, same with A-rod. Pujols is the only really good baseball player with absolutely no signs of steroids thats why he is my favorite player. Plus he plays for the cards

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    Yay for Barry, you finally achieved what you wanted, after alienating most of the public and media, tarnishing your name, and risking jail time. I guess the ends justify the means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UCONN for life View Post
    Yay for Barry, you finally achieved what you wanted, after alienating most of the public and media, tarnishing your name, and risking jail time. I guess the ends justify the means.
    Not really though, I'm sure he used the roids to get a World Series ring and well that never happened and seeing this is probably his last year and the Giants are far out of the of playoff race....his dream will never be achieved.

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    Tainted or not there will always be a * by his name, who knows he might pull a pete rose and tell us all the truth in what about 30 years.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by soldier one View Post
    Lol I cant stand him either, same with A-rod. Pujols is the only really good baseball player with absolutely no signs of steroids thats why he is my favorite player. Plus he plays for the cards
    Don't tell me you actually believe Canseco about A-rod?

    And Pujols and the Cards can die.

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    D@mn guys, When he allegedly took these 'steriods' IT WAS NOT BANNED IN THE MLB...hmmmmm who is to blame??..(If)barry did this,He was not breaking any rules....So would you call that cheating, I wouldn't.
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

    If your not a fan then you shouldnt be trying to get the ball like that Man im surprised he didnt get shot. If i was there i would of let a Giants fan have a chance at it, i would still put out the effort, but i wouldnt be dieing for it like that lol. Plus it didnt even reach the million dollar mark.

    BTW A-rod should be put on the Madden cover next year, just so he has a bad season from the madden curse

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    He hit 365 homer or something close to that at age 35+. Now for a guy to do that during those years is amazing, and is getting help from something.

    Steroids can make you stronger, faster, recover quicker, but it can't help you hit the ball. Bonds has had great contact, and power during his young years...allegedly he got help in his prime, but his contact with the ball remained the same.

    Here is the thing. Bonds STILL hasn't been found guilty of using any substance by Baseball, or by the U.S Government. The only thing the federal government will get him on is probably tax evasion.

    Everything is hypocritical these days, and Bonds is being made the villain of all villains, not only in sports but in general by the media. Everyone saw Mcguire with the roids in his locker, yet no one did anything because the home run chase brought baseball back to life. Yet he still didn't get burned as bad as Bonds has been.

    UnDecideD point is loud and clear. Baseball had no policy, nor did they care because people were coming back to the game.

    Lol I cant stand him either, same with A-rod. Pujols is the only really good baseball player with absolutely no signs of steroids thats why he is my favorite player. Plus he plays for the cards
    Now who's to say that A-Rod or Pujols or even anyone in Baseball is clean? There have been only minor leaguers and some sorry major leaguers caught, so only big name players are clean?

    Cheating is in Baseball, in all sport, and Life in General. If you can get away with it and make millions out of it...hey its your body, its your life.

    So, with all that...Congrats Barry, and hit another 100 while your at it.

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    ughh the whole thing kinda makes me sick, Barrys not that good its just the roids, the guy stole a title which he does not deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msdstc View Post
    ughh the whole thing kinda makes me sick, Barrys not that good its just the roids, the guy stole a title which he does not deserve.
    400 homers, MVP awards, and considered a HOF well before all the scandals and allegations began.

    He did not "STEAL" a title. Baseball allowed it to happen. They turned their backs when McGuire's home run chase brought baseball back.

    Comments like these, make me hope that no one comes close to Barry's record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnReaL View Post
    400 homers, MVP awards, and considered a HOF well before all the scandals and allegations began.

    He did not "STEAL" a title. Baseball allowed it to happen. They turned their backs when McGuire's home run chase brought baseball back.

    Comments like these, make me hope that no one comes close to Barry's record.
    I know man, people are like 'ugh Barry, he sucks...If it weren't for steriods he wouldn't have done anything!' what does he have like 7...7 MVP AWARDS that is insane. Barry has always been a good player.

    Also don't come at me with "OH LOOK HOW BIG HE GOT WHEN HE GOT OLDER" D@mn look at Miguel Cabrera(when he was a rookie, and look at him now).He is some of the players that have gotten much bigger since he entered the league.

    Again with the hypocrisy, you guys do know that pitchers took steroids(OH NOES!)..yeah hmm...Don't pitchers decided a game(not just a couple A.B like hitters), but a whole game...hmmm not many people talk about that, do they?

    Hearing people crying about this makes me sick. Some people say the 65% of the people(in the MLB) since 1984 (allegedly) used steroids, Now I don't know the numbers but thats a hell of alot of baseball players, yet there are only about 22(or so) players to get 500 home runs. only 5 to hit 600 and as many of you know there are only 3 to ever hit 700(Barry, Ruth and Aaron).

    Out of all of those players that allegedly used steroids.
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    Now who's to say that A-Rod or Pujols or even anyone in Baseball is clean? There have been only minor leaguers and some sorry major leaguers caught, so only big name players are clean?
    A-rod wont allow people to investigate him for roids so he most likely does or did at some point. Pujols on the other hand said he isnt afraid to be investagated and if the situation came up he would allow it to pass by as long as he gets to play. Thats what makes me beleive he is clean. Big name players are probably the worst abusers in my eyes because if you doing crap like that in the minors and still cant make it to the majors you probably shouldnt be playing to begin with.

    I think we can all agree, Mcguire isnt the enemy, Bonds isnt the enemy, and A-rod isnt the cheater. Its all the management of the MLB. They are the ones that want ratings, they are the ones with money problems, and they are the ones in a sticky situation. The guy that owns the MLB (forget his name) is worse than FN Gary Bettman in the NHL.
    Those are the guys to blame, if they didnt over pay the players and actuelly did something about dropping ratings then this all wouldnt have happened and Bonds would be a hero to everyone.

    After watching his comments during and after the game i have to say i have started to get alot of respect for Bonds. He thanks Aron, he thanked the padre fans, he didnt take it all for himself and he made a moment to remember.

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    I still can't believe all of the Bonds brown-nosing in this thread.

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    I was listening on the radio, and a Guy pointed out this great question. How many unknown pitchers who used performance enhancing drugs did Bonds hit homers from? I know I can name one. #755 was hit off a guy who was suspended by MLB for using performance enhancing drugs.

    A-rod wont allow people to investigate him for roids so he most likely does or did at some point. Pujols on the other hand said he isnt afraid to be investagated and if the situation came up he would allow it to pass by as long as he gets to play. Thats what makes me beleive he is clean.
    There word of mouth means absolutely nothing. Remember finger pointing Rafael Palmero? (sp?) There is no testing out that can detect HGH. The only way to probably detect it is by Blood testing, which all players have refused to implement into the testing policy.

    ts all the management of the MLB. They are the ones that want ratings, they are the ones with money problems, and they are the ones in a sticky situation.
    This point I can agree on. The Commissionar Bud Selig, and Players President Donald Fehr should be investigated for allowing this to happen. Why wasn't anything done when McGuire and Sosa were chasing Marris single season home run record? Yet everyone is up in arms about Bonds.

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    Allegations of steroid use aside I must say I'm proud of Bonds. Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnReaL View Post
    Why wasn't anything done when McGuire and Sosa were chasing Marris single season home run record? Yet everyone is up in arms about Bonds.
    Because there wasn't as big a pile of evidence about it then as there is now.

    I don't understand how people defend Bonds knowing that he would NOT have beaten the record without the 'roids. People are ignoring the fact that he hit almost half of his home runs AFTER turning 35 years old. Kind of insane, don't you think? Yea, pitchers were using the stuff, too. But how many of those were going to be first-ballot HOFers, BEFORE starting on steroids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msdstc View Post
    ughh the whole thing kinda makes me sick, Barrys not that good its just the roids, the guy stole a title which he does not deserve.

    Huh? I personally don't like Bonds, but ****, without steroids he'd still be one of the best to ever play the game, if not the best.


    You tell me all those stats and facts are because he took steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2OY View Post
    So you don't care that he beat the record set by a real man who earned that record legitimately and without using cheater roids? Wow thats pretty lame and just goes to show how pathetic American sports fans are getting.
    Hey man calm down why in the hell are you atacking american sports fan like that.
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    People are ignoring the fact that he hit almost half of his home runs AFTER turning 35 years old. Kind of insane, don't you think?
    I did not ignore that fact.

    He hit 365 homer or something close to that at age 35+. Now for a guy to do that during those years is amazing, and is getting help from something.
    Quote Me.

    Basically Bonds was able to cheat (allegedly) better than everyone else. There have been accusations of Roger Clemens using something, but that was turned away real quickly because the Media loves Clemens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonsAuto View Post
    Because there wasn't as big a pile of evidence about it then as there is now.

    I don't understand how people defend Bonds knowing that he would NOT have beaten the record without the 'roids. People are ignoring the fact that he hit almost half of his home runs AFTER turning 35 years old. Kind of insane, don't you think? Yea, pitchers were using the stuff, too. But how many of those were going to be first-ballot HOFers, BEFORE starting on steroids?
    Well I'm in the generalization that you can't figure out and I'll tell plain and simple because I am a fan of his. Funny thing is if Bonds didn't roid it up he still would have been a 500-500 career hitter and first ballot hall of famer.

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    The point I'm making that most people seem to ignore is that Bonds had NO need to take steroids, as he was already a lock for the HOF. He did it simply for the glory, as he wanted a piece of Sosa and McGwire's pie. He would've hit over 600, but not 700.

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