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    I would rather see the actual games and hardware in a realtime demo than have some graph dictate to me how the games will look.
    No one knows what this hardware can really do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TGO View Post
    GTFO!
    seriously?

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    I tried to find the quote but you know how fast gaf threads move
    I wonder when a nuclear warhead goes off, does the frame rate of real life drop?

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    Just Listened to What The Tech.
    52:00 mark roughly, Paul Thurrot asked about the next generation xbox.
    Said certain specs that are out in the wild are wrong and things have changed. don't know if he is talking about the vgleaks stuff or the Yukon stuff leaked from 2010. He didn't go into those specifics.

    Also once against mentioned that there is going to be multiple machines.
    http://winsupersite.com/podcasts/wha...150-office-365
    "We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
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    What happened to the dual GPU rumor did that all change?
    Meh.

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    Isnt strange how that vgleak site post new tech info every monday. Next monday will be new tecH on the ps4 feb 11 2013 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    I tried to find the quote but you know how fast gaf threads move
    yeah, i read this too.


    anyway, this only disappoints me because i can't have the ps4 as my main console unless they sort the control pad. i love my ps3, but can't/won't play fps on it. my favourite genre. oh well.

    anyway, the Ihere comments about the leaks being a year old were followed up by him saying 'i don't think they've changed'. so make of that what you will. i also would've expected him to say 'they are incorrect', or something similar, if they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    What happened to the dual GPU rumor did that all change?
    Meh.
    Thats why i find all this stuff hard to believe but fanboys taking this info and running wild with it...this same site said the ps4 will use directx11 when i posted a thread a year ago that the ps4 will use open gl4.

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    was that the one from misterXmedia?

    i tried warning people that he was talking bollocks. literally just picking up patents and making up specs from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J3ff3 View Post
    yeah, i read this too.


    anyway, this only disappoints me because i can't have the ps4 as my main console unless they sort the control pad. i love my ps3, but can't/won't play fps on it. my favourite genre. oh well.

    anyway, the Ihere comments about the leaks being a year old were followed up by him saying 'i don't think they've changed'. so make of that what you will. i also would've expected him to say 'they are incorrect', or something similar, if they were.
    I cant stand FPs with controllers either

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    What happened to the dual GPU rumor did that all change? Meh.
    Yeah it did. My inside source says MS went with a single hamster in a cage powered by 5 hour energy drinks in order to save on cost.

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    @Keefy you know what? looking at the specs of both consoles, and with the way the pc market will be moving, i'm leaning that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J3ff3 View Post
    was that the one from misterXmedia?

    i tried warning people that he was talking bollocks. literally just picking up patents and making up specs from it.
    It was from the pastebin site. No more misterxmedia for me hes just a fanboy tech.

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    I bet both consoles end up being about even in performance. The rumored specs for both seem to be good on paper. I expect next gen to be a repeat of this one. Most multiplats will be about even and exclusives will exploit the power of each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-stance1 View Post
    I bet both consoles end up being about even in performance. The rumored specs for both seem to be good on paper. I expect next gen to be a repeat of this one. Most multiplats will be about even and exclusives will exploit the power of each.
    the rumoured specs on both, so far, appear to be weak, when you consider the specs of last gen.

    and, lets not beat about the bush, the 720 much more so than the orbis. obviously from what we seen so far. 16 vs 32 ROPS, 1.2tf vs 1.8. these are big differences on paper

    but again, nothing here is confirmed by any stretch.
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    Personally VGLeak is a fanboy site looking for hits. Next monday pst on feb 11 will show a new graph saying the ps4 has greater power.

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    Well the whole dual GPU thing is one of the oldest rumor I ever heard, I must look for a source on that and see if anything else on that source has panned out with recent ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J3ff3 View Post
    the rumoured specs on both, so far, appear to be weak, when you consider the specs of last gen.

    and, lets not beat about the bush, the 720 much more so than the orbis. obviously from what we seen so far. 16 vs 32 ROPS, 1.2tf vs 1.8. these are big differences on paper

    but again, nothing here is confirmed by any stretch.
    I disagree. I'm not really a tech guru but i know that going from 512MB to 4 or 8GB of RAM is a pretty significant jump. That alone should make a difference and should be a significant upgrade to what ps3 and xbox 360 is capable of.

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    Do you think this console will be revealed at E3?
    4k mmmkay

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    Personally VGLeak is a fanboy site looking for hits. Next monday pst on feb 11 will show a new graph saying the ps4 has greater power.
    It had greater power from the start
    I wonder when a nuclear warhead goes off, does the frame rate of real life drop?

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    Ya know what, I went back and looked at paste bin guy, then compared them to the leaked spec, rumors of dual gpu/scalers.

    Heres what I have come up with.

    Past bin guy said 1.2 teraflops
    He also said 8 core procressor.
    -4gb ram

    Then we have this http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Rum...ely-37271.html

    Which said:

    -dual GPU
    -6 core.

    Now tie them both to the leaked MS documents you have.


    -8 Core CPU with 2 cores dedicated to O/S and Kinect
    -6 cores for games
    -Two GPU's
    -one a 48 ALU running at 500mhz as an interface for the O/S
    -one a 64 ALU running at 1ghz afor gaming apps.
    -4gb DDR4/5


    All in all I think thats what you are going to get frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    It had greater power from the start
    Just how much power will it be when Sony is target price is 299.99 similar to the WiiU. Due to recent financial losses Sony is in no position to take huge losses this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    Just how much power will it be when Sony is target price is 299.99 similar to the WiiU. Due to recent financial losses Sony is in no position to take huge losses this time around.
    And that is exactly why everyone is surprised to see durango being weaker. If anything MS should have been the one to take some loss and push a superior machine...but its sony who's doing it and I'm SURE they want to be profitable from day one
    I wonder when a nuclear warhead goes off, does the frame rate of real life drop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sith View Post
    Just how much power will it be when Sony is target price is 299.99 similar to the WiiU. Due to recent financial losses Sony is in no position to take huge losses this time around.
    who says they are targeting 299?

    and the GPUs and CPUs are weak in both consoles, as i said, relative to the hardware in this gen @ launch. of course you have to take into account the closed environments, but jaguars are low powered and relatively weak CPUs, whilst the GPU appears to be close to an HD7770 - hardly cutting edge. unlike either the ps3's cell or the 360s GPU architecture in 2005/06

    we will see how it pans out, but it looks like MS is banking on diminishing returns. but realistically the difference between the two GPUs is already visiable in the PC market. and the gap is large enough - by several measures - that nobody seems to believe that any 'special sauce' (god i hate that phrase) can make up for it.
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    Id also point out, a 2nd half power GPU would allow them to do illumroom and various other things.
    Quote Originally Posted by itachi73378 View Post
    And that is exactly why everyone is surprised to see durango being weaker. If anything MS should have been the one to take some loss and push a superior machine...but its sony who's doing it and I'm SURE they want to be profitable from day one
    Until we see both specs on the table we have no idea who is doing what.
    Your getting hyped up over rumors.

    That 1.8 TF rumor has been around since June last year.

    It also said the mahcine was going to have 2gb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mynd View Post
    Id also point out, a 2nd half power GPU would allow them to do illumroom and various other things.


    Until we see both specs on the table we have no idea who is doing what.
    Your getting hyped up over rumors.
    I totally agree...

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