83% of Xbox 360 game aren't shooters

[TrUe GaMeR]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/some-perspective/83-of-xbox-360-games-arent-fpss-288257.php

Now I guess people can shut up about that. All these people keep talking about how tired they are of playing FPS on the 360. I wish they would tell me where they are so I can play them.

 

[Naxi]

17% of most Xbox 360 titles are 'FPS/TPS'

So they mean shooters in general, not bad.

Of course sports titles dominate and 17% is actually a big number.(don't know how they split the genres.)

 

[Infinite Daremo]

BY TRUEPATRIOT AT 02:38 PM lol i dont even get why this is a big deal.
70% of pc games are fps!
90% of wii games are minigames!
80% of ps3 games dont exist!
100% of 360 games are pc games!
i was bored =(

Made me really laugh But the first post says a lot really.

 

[exYle]

Yeah, but most of the best games on 360 are though. I mean, Capela's African Safari isn't gonna win any GOTY awards, while Halo 3 and CoD 4 will.

 

[G_H_G]

[QUOTE="exYle, post: 0]Yeah, but most of the best games on 360 are though. I mean, Capela's African Safari isn't gonna win any GOTY awards, while Bioshock and CoD 4 will.[/quote]

Fixed .

But yeh, anyone who took a little bit of time to do some research would know this. I own only 1 FPS game thus far and I own like 14 games in total.

 

[WonsAuto]

Kotaku brings up some perspective, but here's another: while only 17% of games on 360 are shooters (11% FPS, 6% 3rd-person), which are the ones that are the most hyped and best-selling? Games like GRAW, Gears, and Call of Duty sell a lot more than, say, Viva Pinata or Project Sylpheed. So while there aren't as many shooters in terms of IPs on the market, they definitely dominate the Xbox 360 market share, which is why they're so readily associated with the system.

Not exactly fair, but those are the breaks.

 

[G_H_G]

Yeh its just that the most heavily marketed games on the system are shooters. Thats why the console has the tag of being an FPS box. Its up to MSFT to change that image and invest in marketing for other types of games as well.

 

[exYle]

[QUOTE="G_H_G, post: 0]Fixed .[/quote]

I meant along the lines of Best MP Game for Halo 3...

 

[AndyD]

[QUOTE="WonsAuto, post: 0]sKotaku brings up some perspective, but here's another: while only 17% of games on 360 are shooters (11% FPS, 6% 3rd-person), which are the ones that are the most hyped and best-selling? Games like GRAW, Gears, and Call of Duty sell a lot more than, say, Viva Pinata or Project Sylpheed. So while there aren't as many shooters in terms of IPs on the market, they definitely dominate the Xbox 360 market share, which is why they're so readily associated with the system.

Not exactly fair, but those are the breaks.[/quote]

Exactly. Plus there is another thing at play. When you look at sports games (which dominate), you will likely only get one of several options in a year, Madden or All Pro Football, not both, whereas Bioshock and Halo 3 will both be purchased, despite being in the same genre because they are very different.

A better analysis would be percentage of games sold, or shooters per owner, rather than shooters available.

Another good analysis would be lets say to go to Metacritic and take all games above 70 or so score, and see percentages there. Then you would look at good games with effort into them and see how they fare.

 

[G_H_G]

[QUOTE="exYle, post: 0]I meant along the lines of Best MP Game for COD4/TF2...[/quote]

Fixed again :lol: .

I really can't wait till the GOTY results are in once all has been said and done D .

 

[Wearevenom1]

Yeah the thing they fail to mention is that the 17% that is FPS's are the highest sellers while the others wait to be multiplatformed to the PS3 so they can be enjoyed.

Seriously I mean you can throw numbers around all you want but I would bet my bottom dollar that of that 17%, nearly 99.99999% of those gamers are the systems highest sellers.

The best **** game on the original X-box wasn't a FPS at all but HALO sales blew it out of the water like it was trash.

 

[mastershake86]

[QUOTE="WonsAuto, post: 0]Kotaku brings up some perspective, but here's another: while only 17% of games on 360 are shooters (11% FPS, 6% 3rd-person), which are the ones that are the most hyped and best-selling? Games like GRAW, Gears, and Call of Duty sell a lot more than, say, Viva Pinata or Project Sylpheed. So while there aren't as many shooters in terms of IPs on the market, they definitely dominate the Xbox 360 market share, which is why they're so readily associated with the system.

Not exactly fair, but those are the breaks.[/quote]
I think it is perfectly fair. MS only thought about the American market and Euro markets when they got new over hyped IP's, but all the real popular ones are shooters which is because those are the games they spent time on.

 

[AndyD]

[QUOTE="G_H_G, post: 0]Fixed again :lol: .

I really can't wait till the GOTY results are in once all has been said and done D .[/quote]

If COD4 has solid single player, I think it will take it over Bioshock, simply because its going to be great single player and multiplayer.

 

[Infinite Daremo]

[QUOTE="Wearevenom1, post: 0]Yeah the thing they fail to mention is that the 17% that is FPS's are the highest sellers while the others wait to be multiplatformed to the PS3 so they can be enjoyed.

Seriously I mean you can throw numbers around all you want but I would bet my bottom dollar that of that 17%, nearly 99.99999% of those gamers are the systems highest sellers.[/quote]

Oblivion and Madeen disagree with you.

 

[WonsAuto]

[QUOTE="AndyD, post: 0]Exactly. Plus there is another thing at play. When you look at sports games (which dominate), you will likely only get one of several options in a year, Madden or All Pro Football, not both, whereas Bioshock and Halo 3 will both be purchased, despite being in the same genre because they are very different. at good games with effort into them and see how they fare.[/quote]

You make a very good point... I hadn't thought of that.

 

[exYle]

[QUOTE="G_H_G, post: 0]Fixed again :lol: .

I really can't wait till the GOTY results are in once all has been said and done D .[/quote]

Fine biznatch. Let's take this outside.

 

[shug7272]

[QUOTE="TrUe GaMeR, post: 0]http://kotaku.com/gaming/some-perspective/83-of-xbox-360-games-arent-fpss-288257.php

Now I guess people can shut up about that. All these people keep talking about how tired they are of playing FPS on the 360. I wish they would tell me where they are so I can play them.[/QUOTE]

Nearly one in five is apparently.... just go to the store, count five games and every fifth one should be a FPS. Hope this helps.

 

[Wearevenom1]

[QUOTE="Infinite Daremo, post: 0]Oblivion and Madeen disagree with you.[/quote]


Oblivion was a sad excuse for an RPG that should have been turned into an MMO like God intended it to be. Its the only next gen game I have ever returned, and within 40 minutes of buying it as well.

I am not even going to go into Madden.

 

[TrUe GaMeR]

[QUOTE="WonsAuto, post: 0]Kotaku brings up some perspective, but here's another: while only 17% of games on 360 are shooters (11% FPS, 6% 3rd-person), which are the ones that are the most hyped and best-selling? Games like GRAW, Gears, and Call of Duty sell a lot more than, say, Viva Pinata or Project Sylpheed. So while there aren't as many shooters in terms of IPs on the market, they definitely dominate the Xbox 360 market share, which is why they're so readily associated with the system.

Not exactly fair, but those are the breaks.[/QUOTE]

By the way things are going it can easily happen on the PS3. I think there are more FPS coming to the PS3 this fall than the 360. The main ones 360 fans hype or Halo, Bioshock, and CoD4. While on the PS3 the fans hype Haze, UT3, CoD4 and the most hyped game on the entire console is Killzone 2. Then add to the fact that Resistance is the highest selling game on the PS3 it is clearly looking like the FPS console.

 

[G_H_G]

Xbox 360[/URL] games that have sold more than one million copies.

• Gears of War (4.5 million)[15]
• The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (3 million, includes PC release)[16]
• Call of Duty 2 (1.4 million)[17]
• Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.37 million)[18]
• Dead Rising (1.22 million)[18]
• Madden NFL 07 (1.1 million in US)[19]
• Perfect Dark Zero (1 million)[20]
• Saints Row (1 million)[21]
• Dead or Alive 4 (1 million)[22]
• Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1 million)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox_360

5 (or 6 if you count Saints Row as a TPS which is as it plays for majority of the game) out of 10 on the best sellers list are FPS/TPS games.

Oblivion was a sad excuse for an RPG that should have been turned into an MMO like God intended it to be. Its the only next gen game I have ever returned, and within 40 minutes of buying it as well.

What... are... you... talking... about :lol: ?

 

[Infinite Daremo]

[QUOTE="Wearevenom1, post: 0]Oblivion was a sad excuse for an RPG that should have been turned into an MMO like God intended it to be. Its the only next gen game I have ever returned, and within 40 minutes of buying it as well.

I am not even going to go into Madden.[/quote]

I pity you, i really really do.

 

[Wearevenom1]

[QUOTE="G_H_G, post: 0]Well he's still coreect to a certian extent:


5 (or 6 if you count Saints Row as a TPS which is as it plays for majority of the game) out of 10 on the best sellers list are FPS/TPS games.



What... are... you... talking... about :lol: ?[/quote]


Sorry American's and Europeans should stick to making games they are good at and leave RPG's to people that aren't going to try and turn them into Heretic III.

Anyway I don't even know why I am arguing. I fall into a strange category, the causal gamers see my collection and say what a bunch of crap games where is Madden? Then Hardcore gamers look at my collection and say wow what a bunch of crappy games where HALO?

"I pity you, i really really do." - the feeling is mutal, try out a real rpg then tell me that.

 

[Infinite Daremo]

[QUOTE="Wearevenom1, post: 0]Sorry American's and Europeans should stick to making games they are good at and leave RPG's to people that aren't going to try and turn them into Heretic III.[/quote]

Some of the greatest RPG's of all time are made by Americans and Europeans. Morrowind, Baldurs Gate, Diablo, Gothic, Neverwinter Nights, Planescape, Icewind Dale, KOTOR, Fable .... Mass Effect

 

[Wearevenom1]

[QUOTE="Infinite Daremo, post: 0]Some of the greatest RPG's of all time are made by Americans and Europeans. Morrowind, Baldurs Gate, Diablo, Gothic, Neverwinter Nights, Planescape, Icewind Dale, KOTOR, Fable .... Mass Effect [/quote]


You might as well lump X-Men Legends into that pile, at least that one kept my interest by using characters I loved as a child.

Just not my type of RPG.

 

[Tyrien]

And only 17% of PS2s games were "good", that didn't stop people from buying the consoles like candy.

Good is a subjective argument though.

Don't misunderstand me, PS2 is great. <3

 

[RichMacca]

It would be more informative and intersting if they were show it in terms of sales. IE how much of % sales is FPS games? i bet its quite high...

 

[WonsAuto]

[QUOTE="TrUe GaMeR, post: 0]By the way things are going it can easily happen on the PS3. I think there are more FPS coming to the PS3 this fall than the 360. The main ones 360 fans hype or Halo, Bioshock, and CoD4. While on the PS3 the fans hype Haze, UT3, CoD4 and the most hyped game on the entire console is Killzone 2. Then add to the fact that Resistance is the highest selling game on the PS3 it is clearly looking like the FPS console.[/quote]

While a lot of games coming to PS3 are indeed shooters, Sony markets their games a lot differently. As you may recall, there is also a lot of hype for Heavenly Sword, Lair, Gran Turismo 5, LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, and Ratchet & Clank. On the other hand, no game in history has ever been more hyped than Halo 3.

 

[Tyrien]

[QUOTE="RichMacca, post: 0]It would be more informative and intersting if they were show it in terms of sales. IE how much of % sales is FPS games? i bet its quite high...[/quote]
Exactly, just taking a general look and manipulating numbers to make things seem different than they really are is a pretty lame way to get a point across.

It doesn't really matter if only 17% of the 130+ games are Shooter games, what actually sells? How many of the 130+ are actually good games people want?

You have to take into context other variables than just volume when trying to debunk statements about people getting tired of only having FPS games on 360.

A LOT of PS2 games were ****, does that stop people from buying the console? Because over half the games are worthless titles that were only made by low end developers and sell for $20 in the bargain bin does that mean the console should reflect this?

 

[SomaXD]

80% of 360 games arent fun either... im still waiting for the good ones
(Blue dragon, halo 3, mass effect, bio shock, cod4, lost oddesey

 

[GarthVaderUK]

Kotaku's headline is wrong.

It should be "89% of 360 games aren't FPSs", as FPSs only count for 11% of the games. The 17% is combined FPS and 3rd person shooter percentages.