9-Year-Old Girl Accidently Shoots, Kills Gun Instructor With Uzi

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WARNING - The video at the bottom literally cuts off milliseconds before the incident - WARNING





A 39-year-old firing-range instructor died Monday night at a hospital after he was accidentally shot in the head by a 9-year-old girl, authorities said.

Charles Vacca of Lake Havasu City was an instructor at a firing range in White Hills, Arizona, about 60 miles from Las Vegas. According to the Mohave County sheriff’s Office, he was accidentally shot in the head around 10 a.m.

Vacca had been showing a 9-year-old girl how to fire an automatic Uzi when the accident happened, officials said. The girl pulled the trigger and the gun’s recoil sent it over her head. Vacca was standing next to her when he was shot.

He was airlifted to a hospital in Las Vegas, where he died around 9 p.m., officials said.

The girl’s parents were with her at the time of the shooting, officials said. According to the Bullets and Burgers website, which organizes tours from Las Vegas to the range, 8 is the minimum age for taking part. The location advertises machine guns, military-style bunkers, and specialty weapons.

A call to the firing range’s owner was not immediately returned.

The Mohave County sheriff’s office has released this video of Vacca and the 9-year-old girl at the shooting range moments before the fatal accident.

[video=youtube;cfMzK7QwfrU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfMzK7QwfrU[/video]
Source: http://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoer...dies-after-child-accidentally-shoots?bffbnews

'MURICA.
 
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i actually feel bad for the girl because now she has to battle with someone's death by her hands...because of his and his parents' fault. seriously...why the fuck would you give a little girl an Uzi. i can't even control that shit in a video game.
 

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"8 is the minimum age for taking part. The location advertises machine guns, military-style bunkers, and specialty weapons."

*facepalm*
 

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[QUOTE="Duffman, post: 6375121]You can just see the point before the accident where the gun starts to recoil towards him, not nice!![/QUOTE]

Decided to move the warning to the top... before the video instead of after.... duh darky.

[QUOTE="Omar, post: 6375122]i actually feel bad for the girl because now she has to battle with someone's death by her hands...because of his and his parents' fault. seriously...why the fuck would you give a little girl an Uzi. i can't even control that shit in a video game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Omar, post: 6375124]"8 is the minimum age for taking part. The location advertises machine guns, military-style bunkers, and specialty weapons."

*facepalm*[/QUOTE]

Ya huh. I don't trust adults with guns, let alone kidz.
 

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I will never understand this.
- Kids allowed at the shooting ranges
- Guns for sale in your average store, easy to get
- Guns everywhere

I can't see why they act all surprised that something like this happens, when they literally surround kids with guns.
Kids shouldn't be around guns, nor the other way around. 'Murica...

Now the girl has a death on her hands and I assume she's pretty much in shock as well, as she just saw someone die before her eyes as well. The parents should realise that such activities aren't meant to be for kids, let alone the organisation that says '8 year minimum'....
 
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honestly i thought it was awesome to see this one 12 year old that was a pro at this... and i'm sure her dad/mom (but come on, we all know it was her dad, just trying to be PC) was likely very responsible.

I’m not against kids doing adult things, i have let my son shoot bb guns in the past but i'm extremely cautious and i always made sure that i was with him every step of the way, mostly holding the weapon myself and letting him pull the trigger (he was 3 but loved it). heck, i let him play violent video games. if he enjoys it, it's fine! and there's nothing wrong with telling your kid what death means and how fragile human beings are. it doesn't fuck up their brains, it just makes them more smart and cautious. my kid is normal but he understands how dangerous guns/knives are because he knows what they can do to a person. and he's completely normal. i was a bit cautious at first that it might give him nightmares or change his behavior but he is a perfectly healthy boy.

and i'm extremely cautious with every aspect of my life...never had an accident (well one but that was due to a stupid reason, not speeding/wreckless driving), never broke a bone or hurt myself badly.

i take a lot of precaution when it comes to being safe and honestly i think it's ok to let your kids do some adult things as long as you are with your child every step of the way, kids are smart, they just need a lot of very close supervision so they don't steer off course and especially knowing that they listen to what you tell them.

this girl did everything right, what happened was really the guy's fault. firstly, he should have "NEVER" allowed the girl to shoot it by herself UNTIL he was COMPLETELY sure that she can handle the kick. even then, get out of the way OR hold that weapon while she shoots, make sure she has protective gear, make sure you have protective gear.

this could've been done in a much better way, the guy failed, the parents failed much more. i hate idiots.
 

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Hate to say he caused his own death, but he did...what tard gives a little girl like that an Uzi?!


The "instructor" should have known to not just jump up to a full auto with a short hard to control firearm like that...especially should have known to let her shoot on semi and see how she reacts and performs first.
 
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This is insane and extremely ignorant behavior. Letting a little kid use a gun (especially one like this) is just sick, imo. America desperately need more strict gun laws. I'm not just talking about kids, there are a lot of adults that shouldn't be able to own/shoot a gun too. The sad thing is that there are a lot of people who are against more strict gun laws in the US, that's kind of mind boggling to me.
 

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He stood in front of the gun barrel, that is asking for trouble with a weapon that is known to be hard to control and even more so for a young child.
Minimum age for that type of weapon I would say is 13, at that age they at least have some upper body strength that could somewhat control such a weapon, still the instructor paid the ultimate price for his negligence.
 
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[QUOTE="Libra-75, post: 6375151]This is insane and extremely ignorant behavior. Letting a little kid use a gun (especially one like this) is just sick, imo. America desperately need more strict gun laws. I'm not just talking about kids, there are a lot of adults that shouldn't be able to own/shoot a gun too. The sad thing is that there are a lot of people who are against more strict gun laws in the US, that's kind of mind boggling to me.[/QUOTE]

Because we do not need more strict gun laws, doing so would hurt average Joe because guess what criminals do not give a shit about laws(still mind boggling how people do not get this), what we need is smarter people to learn the ways of gun handling. Thankfully for everyone of these idiots there is way more who do know gun safety but media never reports how my gun is safely locked up and has not killed a person for 365, just morons.
 

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This is from the same place with a different instructor tutoring a woman, obviously she is older than 9 years old, but look how he stands behind her and also pushes against her shoulder to aide with the recoil.

[video=youtube_share;zfuCDpKZMjw]http://youtu.be/zfuCDpKZMjw[/video]
 
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Giving a young, small girl an uzi and standing next to it didn't seem like a dangerous situation for the instructor? :s

And people outside American culture criticizing American culture? Typical, meh. Nothing wrong with guns and nothing wrong with showing kids how to use them. My 12 year old cousin was firing a shotgun at discs a few months ago and having fun, as was everyone else there (it was a big get together out in the country). Except people were smart enough to stand far out of his way and made sure he understood what to do.

I feel really bad for the girl here. It was a genuine mistake that took the instructors life and will leave her scarred for a good while.

[QUOTE="Yuuichi, post: 6375156]Because we do not need more strict gun laws, doing so would hurt average Joe because guess what criminals do not give a shit about laws(still mind boggling how people do not get this), what we need is smarter people to learn the ways of gun handling. Thankfully for everyone of these idiots there is way more who do know gun safety but media never reports how my gun is safely locked up and has not killed a person for 365, just morons.[/QUOTE]

After seeing shit like the Ferguson incident at anyone wanting stricter gun awls in America. Our Government is fucking nuts and we need to be armed for when the revolution inevitably happens.
 

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[QUOTE="Nerevar, post: 6375159]Giving a young, small girl an uzi and standing next to it didn't seem like a dangerous situation for the instructor? :s

And people outside American culture criticizing American culture? Typical, meh. Nothing wrong with guns and nothing wrong with showing kids how to use them. My 12 year old cousin was firing a shotgun at discs a few months ago and having fun, as was everyone else there (it was a big get together out in the country). Except people were smart enough to stand far out of his way and made sure he understood what to do.

I feel really bad for the girl here. It was a genuine mistake that took the instructors life and will leave her scarred for a good while.



After seeing $#@! like the Ferguson incident at anyone wanting stricter gun awls in America. Our Government is $#@!ing nuts and we need to be armed for when the revolution inevitably happens.[/QUOTE]


You need to be armed especially in a racist country like that i suppose.

@yuuichi, the problem is your country is awash with guns, banning the new sale of guns and creating amnesty for people to hand in their guns reduces the guns in circulation at the very least. Slowly the guns will become too expensive for anyone to buy on the black market, aside from organised criminals who are unlikely to rob your home or your shop.


There is relatively very little gun crime in the UK. And almost no children killing themselves or their classmates with a submachine gun.
 

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[QUOTE="Rekmon, post: 6375141]Hate to say he caused his own death, but he did...what tard gives a little girl like that an Uzi?!

The "instructor" should have known to not just jump up to a full auto with a short hard to control firearm like that...especially should have known to let her shoot on semi and see how she reacts and performs first.[/QUOTE]
yeah, he lets her shoot one bullet and goes, "yup, she's ready for that full auto at 1000rpms" (pretty sure the RPM is close to 800-900 close to that)

[QUOTE="victorijapoosp, post: 6375181]You need to be armed especially in a racist country like that i suppose.[/QUOTE]that's a very large and incorrect misconception. America isn't any more racist than other countries. the problem are the politicians and public figures that play with the race issues to their advantage. but i think the core of the problem comes from white politicians, though it has little to do with the population at large, they are the symptom.

after years of observation and digging deep into race issues here, i realize that both sides (whites and blacks) have proper and good points but both sides can be explained. the core is the people who make laws and who control this country. the rest are stuck in their prejudice, ignorance and total confidence in their government's integrity.

When you see a white person against a black person and a black person against a white person, they are participating in a conflict that is symptomatic, however the core issues were started by the government and the government still continues to do it ‘til this day. the govt. gains a lot by diving the country and you can't show me a country that was more divided than this and wasn't in a civil war.
 

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[QUOTE="victorijapoosp, post: 6375181]@yuuichi, the problem is your country is awash with guns, banning the new sale of guns and creating amnesty for people to hand in their guns reduces the guns in circulation at the very least. Slowly the guns will become too expensive for anyone to buy on the black market, aside from organised criminals who are unlikely to rob your home or your shop.[/quote]

I realize it's easy to beat the dead horse that is "lol murica" but understanding the situation would be more honest and fair:

+ A growing poverty class as the difference between the rich and Middle-Poor classes increases gives incentive for theft and assault
+ Poor education (low priority for the powers that be) statistically leads to a higher chance of committing crime
+ The persecution of drug users causes the growth of gangs and criminal culture among youth
+ We don't take mental health seriously in the USA (our standards of healthcare are absolute shit), which is why we get people depressed, confused, and angry about the world taking it out on innocents

It's a lot of factors that culminate in gun violence in the USA, not the mere fact guns exist. The root causes of such violence would still remain even if guns disappeared. That needs to be understood. America needs to commit to a fairer society with diminished necessity for violence and crime, not a lessening of firearms themselves.
 

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[QUOTE="Nerevar, post: 6375202]I realize it's easy to beat the dead horse that is "lol murica" but understanding the situation would be more honest and fair:

+ A growing poverty class as the difference between the rich and Middle-Poor classes increases gives incentive for theft and assault
+ Poor education (low priority for the powers that be) statistically leads to a higher chance of committing crime
+ The persecution of drug users causes the growth of gangs and criminal culture among youth
+ We don't take mental health seriously in the USA (our standards of healthcare are absolute shit), which is why we get people depressed, confused, and angry about the world taking it out on innocents

It's a lot of factors that culminate in gun violence in the USA, not the mere fact guns exist. The root causes of such violence would still remain even if guns disappeared. That needs to be understood. America needs to commit to a fairer society with diminished necessity for violence and crime, not a lessening of firearms themselves.[/QUOTE]

Yeah if the guns weren't available people would just resort to other means
 

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guns, in the wrong hands, do make matters worse, yes that's true but that's a stark minority in the overall scheme of things as the benefits of defending yourself far outweigh the weapons being in wrong people's hands. and i don't mean criminals, i mean vigilantes like zimmerman.
 
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I think it is finally time to implement Chris Rock's idea...

[video=youtube;GIgsZwWPG3A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIgsZwWPG3A[/video]
 

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It h ought it was to be the one where the guns are cheap but the bullets cost a few thousand bucks each.

[video=youtube_share;OuX-nFmL0II]http://youtu.be/OuX-nFmL0II[/video]
 
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[QUOTE="keefy, post: 6375228]It h ought it was to be the one where the guns are cheap but the bullets cost a few thousand bucks each.

[video=youtube_share;OuX-nFmL0II]http://youtu.be/OuX-nFmL0II[/video][/QUOTE]

That too!
 

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[QUOTE="Nerevar, post: 6375159]Giving a young, small girl an uzi and standing next to it didn't seem like a dangerous situation for the instructor? :s[/QUOTE]
completely agree.
 

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[QUOTE="Nerevar, post: 6375159]Giving a young, small girl an uzi and standing next to it didn't seem like a dangerous situation for the instructor? :s

And people outside American culture criticizing American culture? Typical, meh. Nothing wrong with guns and nothing wrong with showing kids how to use them. My 12 year old cousin was firing a shotgun at discs a few months ago and having fun, as was everyone else there (it was a big get together out in the country). Except people were smart enough to stand far out of his way and made sure he understood what to do.

I feel really bad for the girl here. It was a genuine mistake that took the instructors life and will leave her scarred for a good while.

After seeing $#@! like the Ferguson incident at anyone wanting stricter gun awls in America. Our Government is $#@!ing nuts and we need to be armed for when the revolution inevitably happens.[/QUOTE]

Completely agree on all counts. And for anyone who hasn't paid attention, it was a ricochet from one of the bullets that killed the instructor. This was indeed a genuine accident.

Also, these "lol Murika" comments need to stop. Stricter gun laws will only hurt the law abiding citizen as Yuuichi pointed out and will NOT deter the criminal. If anything, gun laws need to be relaxed and some need to be repealed. There is absolutely no need for a firearms registry act nor should the barrier of entry to obtaining a firearm need be so harsh on the law abiding citizen when the criminal doesn't have the same barriers of entry and can obtain a firearm with little to no hassle whatsoever. There are obviously too many brain dead folks in the real world and on the internet.
 

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[QUOTE="Yuuichi, post: 6375156]Because we do not need more strict gun laws, doing so would hurt average Joe because guess what criminals do not give a shit about laws(still mind boggling how people do not get this), what we need is smarter people to learn the ways of gun handling. Thankfully for everyone of these idiots there is way more who do know gun safety but media never reports how my gun is safely locked up and has not killed a person for 365, just morons.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Nerevar, post: 6375159]Giving a young, small girl an uzi and standing next to it didn't seem like a dangerous situation for the instructor? :s

And people outside American culture criticizing American culture? Typical, meh. Nothing wrong with guns and nothing wrong with showing kids how to use them. My 12 year old cousin was firing a shotgun at discs a few months ago and having fun, as was everyone else there (it was a big get together out in the country). Except people were smart enough to stand far out of his way and made sure he understood what to do.

I feel really bad for the girl here. It was a genuine mistake that took the instructors life and will leave her scarred for a good while.



After seeing shit like the Ferguson incident at anyone wanting stricter gun awls in America. Our Government is fucking nuts and we need to be armed for when the revolution inevitably happens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Ezekiel, post: 6375328]Completely agree on all counts. And for anyone who hasn't paid attention, it was a ricochet from one of the bullets that killed the instructor. This was indeed a genuine accident.

Also, these "lol Murika" comments need to stop. Stricter gun laws will only hurt the law abiding citizen as Yuuichi pointed out and will NOT deter the criminal. If anything, gun laws need to be relaxed and some need to be repealed. There is absolutely no need for a firearms registry act nor should the barrier of entry to obtaining a firearm need be so harsh on the law abiding citizen when the criminal doesn't have the same barriers of entry and can obtain a firearm with little to no hassle whatsoever. There are obviously too many brain dead folks in the real world and on the internet.[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking about banning guns or anything like that. I'm talking about having some kind of rules around getting a weapon which makes it harder for people who shouldn't have access to guns to get one (kids and mentally ill persons for example). And I'm not talking about criminals/gangs, they will get their guns either way. I'm talking about age limits, licences and availability. You seem to think that more guns out on the streets makes your society a safer place to live. To me that sounds totally wrong. You make it sound like you guys live in a war zone or something like that. Is it really that common in the US that average Joe gets directly affected (attacked) by criminals/gangs so often that you all need to be armed to your teeth with weapons that originally was made for war? If it is like that I feel really sorry for you.

To those who think people outside the US shouldn't air their opinions. Well, as long as Americans think they can tell the rest of the world what to do I think you have to be able to take some criticism or advice from the rest of the world.