Australia to get internet filtering.

richie217

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THE Federal Government is pushing ahead with its controversial plan to filter the internet, saying illegal material can be blocked "with 100 per cent accuracy and negligible impact on internet speed".
It has just released results of its latest live filtering trials, used as proof that a national internet filter will work.
Labor will introduce legislation next year requiring all service providers to ban "refused classification" (RC) material hosted on overseas servers.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy says RC material includes "child sex abuse content, bestiality, sexual violence and the detailed instruction of crime and drug use".

"Most Australians acknowledge there is some internet content which is not acceptable in any civilised society," Senator Conroy said.

"It is important that all Australians, particularly young children, are protected from this material."

The proposed scheme will place Australia with 15 other Western democratic nations that have or are preparing to implement ISP filters.

Denmark, Belgium, Finland, Italy, Germany and The Netherlands operate similar ISP filter systems that operate from blacklists which contain child abuse material.

However, in those cases the filters are voluntary, while Australia's is mandatory.

The ISP filter plan has attracted a chorus of criticism from industry and internet users, who claim its introduction will strangle internet speeds, curb free speech and be used by the government to ban content it deems "undesirable".

Advocacy organisation GetUp's petition against the proposal has garnered more than 120,000 signatures.

"It's shocking. This great firewall of Australia is going to hand control of the internet to the moral minority," GetUp acting national director Oliver Maccoll said.

In March, the proposed trial came under fire when a list of about 1000 sites secretly banned by ACMA was leaked online, revealing that harmless sites, including YouTube links and gambling sites, had also been blacklisted.

But after the successful live trial ironed out many kinks in the initial plan, the filter has now been given the go-ahead by the Government.

The list of banned sites will be maintained by an independent body.

Senator Conroy said the list would be "compiled through a public complaints mechanism", but the Government will add sites containing "known child abuse material" obtained from "highly regarded international agencies".

Currently, the Australian Communications and Media Authority issues take-down notices for black-listed content hosted in Australia.
Well there goes our freedom.

I would be interested to know if this "independent body" will be named, knowing Conroy it will probably be some religous faction. Also interested as to whether or not the list of banned sites will be made public. Only a matter of time before our weasel politicians start banning sites that offer opinions different than that of their own.

I am a grown man and can make decisions for MYSELF as to what I view on the internet. If people are looking up material on overseas websites that is illegal in this country just ****ing arrest them. Sick of the nanny state that Australia is becoming.

Seriously Conroy do us all a favour and throw yourself off the nearest bridge , and take Atkinson (guy who refuses to give us a R18+ classification) with you.
 

bayster

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Yeah it more of proposal don't think it will actually get passed. If it does facepalm at our gov and senate.
 

Alastor Mused

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My condolences to your freedoms.

[QUOTE="richie217, post: 0]Seriously Conroy do us all a favour and throw yourself off the nearest bridge , and take Atkinson (guy who refuses to give us a R18+ classification) with you.[/quote]
Makes you hope that Conroy's Mom never said "If your friends jump off a bridge would you?".
 

k.cuthbertson

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Dude...that sucks...literally. It's horrible that something like that is even considered...sounds like someone needs a revolution! haha
 

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Filtering is alright if its an option alongside the "full internet". I guess most people should choose regular internet plans but some people could choose it should they wish.

Horrible idea if its the only way to access the internet...good idea if instead of blocking they make it an option.
 

MR_T

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Communications Minister Stephen Conroy says RC material includes "child sex abuse content, bestiality, sexual violence and the detailed instruction of crime and drug use".

"It is important that all Australians, particularly young children, are protected from this material."
that would be great and all but i cant once remember when i was 8 googling the wrath of the crack pipe fuelled paedo kangaroo murdering rapists from sydney...part 2!
 

Kwes

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I hope nothing goes through, but with all the crap nowadays. Who knows what might happen. :neutral:
 

richie217

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[QUOTE="LadyDuoMaxwell, post: 0]Doesn't the rest of the Australians even have a say in this proposal?[/quote]

The only say we have once the legislation is passed is to vote them out next election. The government would not hold a referendum on something like this as they know it would never be passed. Essentially Mr Conroy has just committed political suicide.
 

Twiztid

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[QUOTE="John25, post: 0]lol looks like we could be adding Australia to the list of communist country,s[/quote]

Do you even know what Communism means?
 
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Well internet is short for International network, and if this goes through you'll have to name it something else like...OZnet or barred-net or no-freedom-net. I hope it doesn't go through. :(
best of luck!
I love Australia :D
 

Yuuichi

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[QUOTE="Twiztid, post: 0]Do you even know what Communism means?[/quote]


com·mu·nism
Pronunciation: \ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-\Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b :a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively


and now we all know.

seriously tho australia is now killing the last form of free speech. I am not gonna be surprised when you guys have a revolutionary war. Thos we might get involved which would suck.
 

Twiztid

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[QUOTE="Yuuichi, post: 0]com·mu·nism
Pronunciation: ˈkäm-yə-ˌni-zəm, -yü-Function: noun
Etymology: French communisme, from commun common
Date: 1840
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b :a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively


and now we all know.

seriously tho australia is now killing the last form of free speech. I am not gonna be surprised when you guys have a revolutionary war. Thos we might get involved which would suck.[/quote]

So you see John; Australia is not a communist country.

 

Vulgotha

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This nonsense has to stop. Jeez.

The saddest part is, most of US liberalism looks to Europe\UK\Australia as this "Ideal model" that we should base our politics and policies around.

Yea, absolutely this crap destroys freedom. I don't care who you are, what gender or race.. This stuff has to stop. In the UK, Australia, America, Canada.

A supremely empowered Federal Government which can make moral judgment calls on this stuff is abhorrid. It has no right. It breeds Tyranny.

Look I agree this child stuff is messed up. What I'm so afraid of is the snowball effect. Once the government starts rolling and seeps into various areas with its power and influence it doesn't stop. This is what you people need to understand. The government will never stop growing and trying to expand its power.

If Obama tries to pull this crap over here....
 

Yuuichi

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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 0]This nonsense has to stop. Jeez.

The saddest part is, most of US liberalism looks to EuropeUKAustralia as this "Ideal model" that we should base our politics and policies around.

Yea, absolutely this crap destroys freedom. I don't care who you are, what gender or race.. This stuff has to stop. In the UK, Australia, America, Canada.

A supremely empowered Federal Government which can make moral judgment calls on this stuff is abhorrid. It has no right. It breeds Tyranny.

Look I agree this child stuff is messed up. What I'm so afraid of is the snowball effect. Once the government starts rolling and seeps into various areas with its power and influence it doesn't stop. This is what you people need to understand. The government will never stop growing and trying to expand its power.

If Obama tries to pull this crap over here....[/quote]

itll never happen. they mentioned it a few time to try get a bill going but got shot down. kinda why your starting to see a million bills holding people responsable for stuff they do on internet like harrasing.
 

John25

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[QUOTE="Twiztid, post: 0]So you see John; Australia is not a communist country.

[/quote]

lol i wasnt actually being serious with that comment
 

bayster

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I'm not concerned, I will bet my internets this will not be implemented.

Also we may be getting 18+ rating sometime soon so it isn't all bad news.