Building a Gaming PC

gangsta_795

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Yes, this is another one of those threads with a noob asking your help in buying parts for assembling a gaming PC :lol:

Here's what I've decided till now:

Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK 500 Watts PSU
Asus AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6850 1 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
AMD 3.3 GHz AM3 Phenom II 960 Processor

I'll be buying it only in March once my exams are over so I've got a lot of time to research and take advice. Any would be appreciated. :)
 

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I'm finally looking at these:

Processor - AMD 3.5 GHz AM3 Phenom II 970
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
GPU - Sapphire AMD Radeon HD 6850 2 GB GDDR5
RAM - G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB)
Mobo - ASUS M4A88T-M LE
PSU - Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W 500 Watts
Cabinet - Cooler Master Gladiator 600 Mid Tower

I have a few questions though:

1. Should I go for a 1GB 6870 instead of 2GB 6850?
2. Is a 500W PSU sufficient in case I plan to crossfire my 6850/6870 in the future?
3. Will the said graphic card be able to run games maxed out on a 24/28" screen?
 

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[QUOTE="gangsta_795, post: 5771920]Yes, this is another one of those threads with a noob asking your help in buying parts for assembling a gaming PC :lol:

Here's what I've decided till now:

Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK 500 Watts PSU
Asus AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6850 1 GB GDDR5 Graphics Card
AMD 3.3 GHz AM3 Phenom II 960 Processor

I'll be buying it only in March once my exams are over so I've got a lot of time to research and take advice. Any would be appreciated. :)[/QUOTE]

Go with Intel.
 

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even though i3 are dual core they often keep up with and even surpass the X4 AMD chips in gaming applications.
The X4 will be slghtly better in video encoding applications.
 

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[QUOTE="gangsta_795, post: 5773452]Actually, that was my firsts preference. But since I wan't something in the price range b/w i3 and i5, I plan to choose AMD since it hits the sweet spot for me in terms of cost.

i3<X4<i5[/QUOTE]

i5 2300.
 
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The speed and other things are good but when it comes to gaming it mainly consider about the graphics so make sure you input a 2 or 4 GB graphics card.
 

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That's about $200 right?

Here's a slight edit on the parts:

HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
GPU - Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 1 GB DDR5
RAM - G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB)
Mobo - ASUS M4A88T-M LE
PSU - Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2UK 750 Watts
Cabinet - Cooler Master Gladiator 600 Mid Tower

Oh and by the way, I did some more research. Wouldn't the i3 lag behind the Phenom II because it has the latter has two more cores? I know that the i3 can emulate cores but I happened to read in a few places that despite that, the Phenom II would be a better choice.

Also, do games these days utilize 4 cores?
 
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Inzane2050

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$50- Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2UK 500 Watts PSU
$150- Asus AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6850 1 GB GDDR5
$130- AMD 3.3 GHz AM3 Phenom II 960
$40- Kingston HyperX 4GB DDR3 SDRAM
$80- Asus M4A87T mobo
$80- 1TB hard drive with SATA 2.0/3.0 support
$20- DL-DVD drive

Roughly $550-600 right there for a decent setup as you are desiring. I'd advise you update that 500W PSU to a 650W PSU to be on the safe side tho.

Edit: video games rarely use or need more than dual core as the CPU demand of current generation games are still embarassingly low. I personally still run on an Intel Duo Core 2 1.8GHz processor and I can max anything from the original Crysis to anything else you can name.
 
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[QUOTE="Ben Talbot, post: 5777274]The speed and other things are good but when it comes to gaming it mainly consider about the graphics so make sure you input a 2 or 4 GB graphics card.[/QUOTE]

The amount of space on a graphics card is not going to make a big difference regardless.
 

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The i3 2100 is a great budget CPU plus it offers better upgrade route than AMD offerings the i5 and i7 blow the AMD x4 x6 and FX series away.

I have seen reports that the AMD 960T can have 2 cores unlocked turning it into a hex core.
 
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+rep for that post, inzane. I knew asking for your help would be a good option :)

The final price is much lower than I expected. When I'm buying I might just upgrade a few parts here and there.

Apart from that, I've got another few questions:

1. Will the said gpu be able to max out games on a 24" monitor?
2. Better to go with intel or AMD ( I know inzane suggested AMD but I'd appreciate everyone's opinion)?
3. Similar question : Nvidia or AMD? (basically, here it means HD6850/6950 vs. GTX560 Ti)

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll try and rep you guys when I can :)
 

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+rep for that post, inzane. I knew asking for your help would be a good option :)

The final price is much lower than I expected. When I'm buying I might just upgrade a few parts here and there.

Apart from that, I've got another few questions:

1. Will the said gpu be able to max out games on a 24" monitor?
2. Better to go with intel or AMD ( I know inzane suggested AMD but I'd appreciate everyone's opinion)?
3. Similar question : Nvidia or AMD? (basically, here it means HD6850/6950 vs. GTX560 Ti)

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll try and rep you guys when I can :)

EDIT : Looks like I can't rep you right now inzane :( I'll do it when I can
 

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[QUOTE="gangsta_795, post: 5777305]+rep for that post, inzane. I knew asking for your help would be a good option :)

The final price is much lower than I expected. When I'm buying I might just upgrade a few parts here and there.

Apart from that, I've got another few questions:

1. Will the said gpu be able to max out games on a 24" monitor?
2. Better to go with intel or AMD ( I know inzane suggested AMD but I'd appreciate everyone's opinion)?
3. Similar question : Nvidia or AMD? (basically, here it means HD6850/6950 vs. GTX560 Ti)

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll try and rep you guys when I can :)[/QUOTE]
Since I'm currently building a Gaming Pc myself, heres what I think mate;
1:I think that it should, it all depends on the max resolution of said monitor?
2:Intel, it can outpreform the same AMD couterpart from what I have been looking into, sure AMD is cheaper...but Intel is certainly worth the money.
3:I would go with Nvidia for a grahics card, I don't know if your able to pick up a GTX570 which would be your best best bet in my opinion for pricing. However that may be because I'm shopping on Newegg.ca and the pricing could vary for you.
 

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You can get a EVGA Superclocked GTX570 for the same price as a Stock 570 GPU if you can stretch to a 570
that is

And also the AMD Phenom X6 1100T CPUs @ 3.3Ghz are dirt cheap and are more than adequate for PC needs.
 

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[QUOTE="gangsta_795, post: 5777307]+rep for that post, inzane. I knew asking for your help would be a good option :)

The final price is much lower than I expected. When I'm buying I might just upgrade a few parts here and there.

Apart from that, I've got another few questions:

1. Will the said gpu be able to max out games on a 24" monitor?
2. Better to go with intel or AMD ( I know inzane suggested AMD but I'd appreciate everyone's opinion)?
3. Similar question : Nvidia or AMD? (basically, here it means HD6850/6950 vs. GTX560 Ti)

Thanks to everyone for their help. I'll try and rep you guys when I can :)

EDIT : Looks like I can't rep you right now inzane :( I'll do it when I can[/QUOTE]

You would be better off with a 560ti or an AMD 78XX card.
 

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Just so you know, the 460GTX is essentially a 560GTX so consider that when you compare the ATI 6850 to the GF 560GTX.
And I recommend AMD's CPUs as they are very cheap and for that manner great for budget gamers. Intel's have been leading in performance as of lately tho, but it will cost more for sure. But with how under-demanding games are on the CPU, there is no reason to bother with which is more powerful as all current AMD and Intel CPUs will max out your games with ease regardless of how powerful said CPU is. Games have always been about the GPU, not the GPU.
 
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Inzane2050

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[QUOTE="Rapture, post: 5777782]If he wants his gaming rig to last, then it's wise to go with the best parts he can get now.[/QUOTE]

You can't go making uneducated presumptions like that. That is entirely wrong.
 

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Actually, I was thinking pretty much the same thing. If I can afford better hardware right now, why not just go for it right?

@rapture, I'll be buying a new monitor as well, so I doubt

Guys, please, let's keep it decent

EDIT : The only 7xxx card I'm able to find in 7970 which costs a cart load of money. Same for GTX570 :(
 
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Inzane2050

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Gangsta~

Don't ever worry about getting the best stuff out there as prices drop so sharply all the same that it renders the purchase meaningless. Build what meets your needs; seeing a big 300 in the corner of your monitor is a meaningless feat. A Quad Core CPU along with 4-8GB of DDR3 will perform exceptionally into the next generation. The only thing you may need to upgrade when the next generation is finally here would be the GPU, and by that time, we will have a $200 GPU that outperforms our current behemoth, the GF580GTX, by a factor of 4x the power.
 
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If you buy minimum of what meets your needs today, it won't meet your needs of tomorrow. You'll have to upgrade sooner, and then you'll be spending more money than you would have before. To be fair, the price difference between the 560 Ti and 570 may be enough to warrant such a thing, but not the CPUs. He can get an i5 2500 for less than a hundred dollar more, and that CPU is a fair amount more powerful. With the way games of today are aging it could literally last him for years- a year or two more than the AMD processor.


Oh, and here's a PM that Inzame decided to send me.

Inzane2050 said:
Hardware better than what I already described will not benefit anyone for another two console generations aside from a better GPU for which can be upgraded when the time comes. Don't act so childish and go trying to confuse a legitimately concerned PC shopper as you just did.

That is all. Thank you and good day.
Take a note, friend. All I stated was that better hardware lasts longer, which is a fact. The bolded part of your response is particularly chuckle-worthy as all you did was reinforce my point.
 
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That's what I had in mind, Rapture. If I can afford it now, why not buy it and prevent spending on upgrading it in a short period of time.

But actually, the problem is, I'm 15. That means, I won't be buying all these parts, my father is the one whose going to be spending. Aside from the fact that I'm already a little over budget, he doesn't know shit about hardware. Not saying that he's some money minded idiot, but I need to look at it from his point of view as well.

Also, I guess I forgot to mention this. All the parts you people quote, they're gonna cost me a little more moolah than what they would to you. e.g A 6850 will cost you $150 but I'll be buying it for $200.

Anyway, here's what I'm looking at finally

Mobo - Biostar TZ68K+
Proc - Intel 3.3 GHz LGA1155 Core i5-2500K
GPU - Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 1 GB DDR5
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD
PSU - Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2UK 750 Watts
IOD - Asus DRW-24B3ST DVD Burner
RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (2 x 4 GB) = 8GB

This will set me back by about $800

Add a monitor, cabinet, heatsink(?) and I'm touching my budget. :)
 
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