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Steve

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A couple months ago, I let my Xbox LIVE gold membership expire. It wasn't because I wasn't interested in having a LIVE account, but more so because I hadn't started my new job and therefore was broke. Right now I'm sitting on a pretty good amount of money, though, and while at one point it would have been an obvious decision to renew it, I'm beginning to second guess it.

So what I'm looking for with this thread is for you to convince me why I should renew my Xbox LIVE membership. I'm hoping that a little bit of discussion about it will help me make an informed decision that I'm happier with a month from now.
 
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Do you have the time to take advantage of a paid membership? If you've had it before you def know all the advantages of having the account. For me a decision would be based on long term use and value your going to get out of it cause its money out of your pocket
 

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[QUOTE="DeviousOne, post: 5865530]Do you have the time to take advantage of a paid membership? If you've had it before you def know all the advantages of having the account. For me a decision would be based on long term use and value your going to get out of it cause its money out of your pocket[/QUOTE]

To be honest, I really don't know all of the advantages of having an account. It wasn't until recently that I started becoming interested in the plethora of other features available to me, mainly because I knew my membership was running out and I wouldn't be able to take advantage of them for long.

I could easily look up all of the features available to gold membership users, but that would likely take me to the Xbox.com website, which would do nothing more than make the features available to me sound ten times better than they actually are (in theory). So what I'm really looking for, I guess, is to get an unbiased opinion on what Xbox LIVE really offers and how good those features and services actually are.

I can easily be told that I can get "cutting edge access" to something or another, but if the Xbox website didn't say that I think they'd need to hire a new sales manager.

I'm looking through what the official Xbox site has to say about it at the moment, but again, I think I can get a much better idea about whether or not LIVE is a good decision for me by hearing what some of you guys have to say about it. What do you like? Dislike? How do certain aspects of it compare to PSN and PS+?
 

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I would but i cant, i dont game online hardly anymore and with this gen dying out......i wont be renewing mine
 
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[QUOTE="three3-times, post: 5865543]I would but i cant, i dont game online hardly anymore and with this gen dying out......i wont be renewing mine[/QUOTE]

I would imagine that your xbox live account would be transferable to a next gen xbox? Was this not the case with Xbox to Xbox360 accounts? Im curious I dont not KNOW since i've never owned an xbox console
 

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[QUOTE="F34R, post: 5865552]You either wanna play the 360 games online or you don't. That's all you really needed to know.[/QUOTE] Thats really what it comes down to right there.
 

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Well, I figure with the release of Halo 4 on the horizon I'm going to want to jump in on the action. So, I renewed my gold membership. I figure that along the way there will be other 360 games I'd like to try out online, so it'll be worth it in the long term. Plus it'll be nice having another device that can use Netflix and all of that good stuff.

I also purchased an additional 800 MS points to change my gamertag. Anyone have any gamertag ideas to throw out there?
 
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[QUOTE="SchaffinOSX, post: 5865598]Well, I figure with the release of Halo 4 on the horizon I'm going to want to jump in on the action. So, I renewed my gold membership. I figure that along the way there will be other 360 games I'd like to try out online, so it'll be worth it in the long term. Plus it'll be nice having another device that can use Netflix and all of that good stuff.

I also purchased an additional 800 MS points to change my gamertag. Anyone have any gamertag ideas to throw out there?[/QUOTE]

add me up dstevens
 

podsaurus

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It's only fifty bucks a year isn't it? I guess that's a lot if you don't plan to play online at all. I never planned to play ME3 online but have found myself playing it and enjoying it. So you may end up playing something online you didn't plan to, ya never know.
 

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1. Do you have a gaming PC and/or PS3?
2. Do you have a ton of friends on XBL?

If the answer to these questions are "yes" and "no" respectively, don't get XBL.

Unless you have a ton of exclusive titles that are a joy online (e.g. Halo, Gears).
 

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If you plan on playing games like Halo 4, then you really have no choice, and what sucks is that the other features aren't worth shit unless you put in even more money for something like Netflix or Amazon Prime.

Fuck you, Microsoft

-it's MICROSOFT. No fanboy terminology -Cuguy



Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.
 
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[QUOTE="TRF, post: 5865962]If you plan on playing games like Halo 4, then you really have no choice, and what sucks is that the other features aren't worth shit unless you put in even more money for something like Netflix or Amazon Prime.

Fuck you, Micro$oft.


Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.[/QUOTE]

Actually, you have a choice, 100%. You either want to play online, and/or use the Gold features, or you don't. One side, you pay for the services to use them. The other side, you don't. See, that's a choice.
 

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[QUOTE="F34R, post: 5865966]Actually, you have a choice, 100%. You either want to play online, and/or use the Gold features, or you don't. One side, you pay for the services to use them. The other side, you don't. See, that's a choice.[/QUOTE]

Yea, but his point is not all that dissimilar from saying: "Ok States, you can either accept our Federal Healthcare plan, or decline but lose the majority of your federal funding for everything else. See, you actually do have a choice! We're giving you options!"

Yea uh huh. I agree with what he's getting at, you can't just spend the several hundred dollars on the xbox and the game and play with your internet connection (that you pay for). You must then pay Microsoft for a service which, comparatively speaking, is inferior just to unlock the (potentially) one feature you really want: online multiplayer.

They screw you coming and going with points to. It's all part of the plan.

The only thing Xbox Live really has going for it is: its huge install base, stability, group chat.

And really given that party chat exists on PS+ and the PS Vita and PSN has become much more stable lately.. I don't see why I should fork out cash.

STEAM>Everything, naturally.
 
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[QUOTE="F34R, post: 5865966]Actually, you have a choice, 100%. You either want to play online, and/or use the Gold features, or you don't. One side, you pay for the services to use them. The other side, you don't. See, that's a choice.[/QUOTE]
Fine, you buy Halo 4 and completely ignore the online multiplayer. That's a $20 game you've got now, for the low price of $60!


Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.
 
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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 5865984]Yea, but his point is not all that dissimilar from saying: "Ok States, you can either accept our Federal Healthcare plan, or decline but lose the majority of your federal funding for everything else. See, you actually do have a choice! We're giving you options!"

Yea uh huh. I agree with what he's getting at, you can't just spend the several hundred dollars on the xbox and the game and play with your internet connection (that you pay for). You must then pay Microsoft for a service which, comparatively speaking, is inferior just to unlock the (potentially) one feature you really want: online multiplayer.

They screw you coming and going with points to. It's all part of the plan.

The only thing Xbox Live really has going for it is: its huge install base, stability, group chat.

And really given that party chat exists on PS+ and the PS Vita and PSN has become much more stable lately.. I don't see why I should fork out cash.

STEAM>Everything, naturally.[/QUOTE]
There are features other than "online game play", that are built into the online playing.
[QUOTE="TRF, post: 5865989]Fine, you buy Halo 4 and completely ignore the online multiplayer. That's a $20 game you've got now, for the low price of $60!


Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.[/QUOTE]

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
 

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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 5865984]Yea, but his point is not all that dissimilar from saying: "Ok States, you can either accept our Federal Healthcare plan, or decline but lose the majority of your federal funding for everything else. See, you actually do have a choice! We're giving you options!" Yea uh huh. I agree with what he's getting at, you can't just spend the several hundred dollars on the xbox and the game and play with your internet connection (that you pay for). You must then pay Microsoft for a service which, comparatively speaking, is inferior just to unlock the (potentially) one feature you really want: online multiplayer. They screw you coming and going with points to. It's all part of the plan. The only thing Xbox Live really has going for it is: its huge install base, stability, group chat. And really given that party chat exists on PS+ and the PS Vita and PSN has become much more stable lately.. I don't see why I should fork out cash. STEAM>Everything, naturally.[/QUOTE] Live is an "inferior service comparatively speaking" to PSN? First time I've ever heard somebody try to claim that. Now if youre trying to say that PSN is a better value then I'm with you. PSN with PS+ is a much better value for your money than XBL gold imo.
 

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The only reason why i am even keeping my 360 is because of a game called class 3 ( open world zombie survival, but its a arcade game but not much of a issue)
 

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[QUOTE="radgamer420, post: 5866225]Live is an "inferior service comparatively speaking" to PSN? First time I've ever heard somebody try to claim that. Now if youre trying to say that PSN is a better value then I'm with you. PSN with PS+ is a much better value for your money than XBL gold imo.[/QUOTE]

I'm saying its a better value and objectively a better service cost wise.
 

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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 5866237]I'm saying its a better value and objectively a better service cost wise.[/QUOTE] Ok I figured that was most likely what you were saying but was just trying to be sure. So yeah then I agree with you 100 percent about cost. Being free of course makes it better cost wise . But that doesn't make it a better service. It would have to be equal to Live as well as free in order for that to be true. And its not. If it was then everybody would be flocking to PSN and Live would be a dismal failure. But that isnt whats happening obviously. Sorry I took so long to edit my response but I came across this again just now and realized I didnt read your post close enough the first time.
 
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[QUOTE="OriginalG, post: 5867335]I wonder how many people will actually subscribe to Live it online game play is free as it shouldve been. Answers not many.[/QUOTE] I think the success of Live shows that gamers are willing to pay something for a better online service. And if what youre saying was true and PSN was just as good then everybody would be flocking to PSN and Live would be going down in flames. Also I've never had to pay full price for Xbox Live. I'm paying about $3.00 and some change a month for the next 3 months and before that I paid $2.00 for 2 months.
 
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[QUOTE="SchaffinOSX, post: 5865558]After looking online I'm almost tempted to buy an entirely new Xbox... The new ones sound so much better than my old Elite.[/QUOTE]
I'd say stick with your elite and buy a gold live account, if you need to do a hard drive upgrade later on do that, it will be so much cheaper than buying a whole new console.
 
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[QUOTE="OriginalG, post: 5867335]I wonder how many people will actually subscribe to Live it online game play is free as it shouldve been. Answers not many.[/QUOTE]

Your answer is not very secure. If they put online play, basic, as a freebie... gamers will still pay for the much feature standard Live online play service, plus all the other benefits. It's not hard to understand that most people don't know what type of features are integrated into the service, OS, etc.
 

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Its not irrelevant to me. Discounted Live is available to everyone. And lots of people even just on this forum alone get discounted Live so no it isnt just me. And if somebody else isnt savvy enough to shop around or call MS for promotions then thats their fault. For just a few bucks a month sometimes only 2 bucks I enjoy an online service that is much better than PSN. Worth every cent. PSN to me just seems barren and very bare bones and has no x game chat which is a feature I enjoy and its easier to invite friends and the downloads are light years faster on Live for me. Games like MS Apocolypse dont even work online half the time because of server errors. But I've never had any problems playing online MP with any games on Live. Again if PSN was equal to Live people would indeed be flocking to PSN since its free. But PSN is not equal to Live. Thats a fact.
 
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