Does anyone else miss offline multiplayer gaming?

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One of the most significant steps up the PS3 took from its predecessor was online gaming. No PS2 game ever really managed to get a good online community going, but games like Warhawk now exist that revolve solely around online play.

The problem is, developers seem to have forgotten about people who actually have real life friends and enjoy playing multiplayer amongst themselves. Now I appreciate split screen is a pain to program, as you have to effectively cut parts out of the game so you can run 2-4 copies of it at the same time, but I'm really frustrated that no multiplayer seems to cater for this option. For instance, Resistance has an offline multiplayer - but no bots! What's the point? Unless you happen to have 7 Resistance playing friends at your house at the same time and 7 controllers, which I imagine a total of maybe 3 PS3 owners have, you're screwed.

Another good example is Burnout - on the PS2 I used to have great laughs with mates doing not splitscreen but the party modes, where you'd take it in turns to do crashbreakers or burnout chains. How difficult must that be to program? Hardly at all, I would have thought. But is it in the PS3 version...? No.

I don't have time to invest in getting into "clans" and the like online. I'm hardly a casual gamer, don't get me wrong, but the games that I'd be good enough to play online (Pro Evo, Burnout) either leave me with no inspiration to do so, or the servers are just crap. Without Resistance's cooperative mode or UEFA 2008's captain your country mode, for me offline multiplayer gaming on the PS3 is dead. Which is a huge, huge shame.

Loads of my mates had Timesplitters 2 on PS2 and we had some immense games on PS2 with bots. If Haze fails to offer this option, there's going to be at least 4 very dissapointed post-finals uni students come June!
 

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I agree completely. Splitscreen games will sell. Its as simple as that. I have said this before and I'll say it again. I bought Warhawk SOLELY because it has splitscreen. Give the people what they want.
 

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I agree, I want to see a game like Dark Alliance for the PS2, that was insanely fun and didnt require split screen for awesome co-op play
 
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yeah i totally agree with this, am really lookin forward to Motorstorm 2, Buzz! and a Resistance 2 purely to get some more offline multiplayer action i can play with my mates.

Think it'd be nice to get something like Pinata Party Game for the ps3 a la 360
 
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can anyone say nintendo wii. its all about marketing. 360 had an ad program revolving around family/multiplayer games after the wii came out and some pretty fun games (ping pong!)

my two cents if n e one cares.
 
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ahhh Dark Alliance :)
Well if am not wrong, you could also connect 2 PS1 s together...for lan play..... u would need 2 TV sets though but even that was fun....
yeah...offline multiplayer is hugely in demand...its more fun knowing the person; whose ass you r kickin in COD4;....in real life....
 

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YES, I MISS OFFLINE MULTI!

What's the point of having the ability to have up to 7 controllers (bluetooth) on a PS3 if there are hardly any games that make use of 2 or 4?

I really want to see more split-screen, co-op games that my friends and I can play together in the same room. Right now, it's pretty much just sports games and a few FPS that even bother with it.

I just want more diverse games that 2-3 more people can join in on, like there were on the old Nintendo 64 (GoldenEye, StarFox, Smash Bros, Mario Party, Mario Kart, etc. etc). Good times.
 

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[QUOTE="schwan, post: 0]I agree, I want to see a game like Dark Alliance for the PS2, that was insanely fun and didnt require split screen for awesome co-op play[/QUOTE]

That game truly rocked. (I had the GC version, but I assume it was pretty similar.)
 
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[QUOTE="Falanx13, post: 0]What's the point of having the ability to have up to 7 controllers (bluetooth) on a PS3 if there are hardly any games that make use of 2 or 4?[/quote]

Exactly Sony!

Why bother enabling us to have up to 7 connected at once if we're only ever going to have one person playing.


Thinking back the only real times ive played with a friend on a game for any length of time was in R:FOM when my mate and i completed the co-op story mode, and we had a great time doing it too! Was also the one key feature Motorstorm and Burnout Paradise were missing
 
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Wow, I thought the majority of people just played online and didn't care about offline. Is Resistance 2 confirmed for offline split screen and bots? What about Haze? Timesplitters 2 had the best offline multiplayer split screen, 3 humans 3 bots, bots vs humans was ridiculous fun.

I just want more diverse games that 2-3 more people can join in on, like there were on the old Nintendo 64 (GoldenEye, StarFox, Smash Bros, Mario Party, Mario Kart, etc. etc). Good times.
This is exactly what I'm talking about! How can the PS3's range of offline multiplayers compete with shagging money out of your mates in Mario Party (anyone remember that minigame?!)? Or the hilarity when people can't even press the A or B button from a flag held up on the screen? I know the wii can offer these things, but let's face it, it's not a PS3. Regardless, the power of the ps3 should be giving us better offline multiplayer experiences.
 

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i had fun 4 screen multiplayer during goldeneye, but once i play splitscreen on warhawk it throws me off, since my peripheral vision is cut in half, anyone know what i mean

i say they bring back splitscreen plus online (warhawk sucks that its vertical), but it would have to be horizontal
 

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The thing is, 'Playstation' has never really been about offline multi-player. At first I thought it was because the PS1 was so weak, but then when the PS2 arived the multi-player aspect was still so limited.

I'd like to see a change of this with the PS3, but you can't miss something thats never really been there besides racing games.
 
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I agree. It seems many developers are overlooking the offline multiplayer aspect of games. I don't mean ONLY offline split screen multi player games (pso was my favorite. not the card game version) but the single screen offline multi player games aswell. Games along the lines of *cough* Champions of Norath =)) are dearly needed this generation.

I thought that they were going to be going this route with the upcoming Golden Ax game but unfortunatly they have AXed (pun intended) the multi-player aspect of the game and it is now solely a single player experience.

Gone are the days of sitting in the same room as your drunkin friends as you fight amonst eachother over the next treasure chest, bag of gold, or powerful weapon. It seems this generation if you wish to have a good time with friends over at your house the Nintendo Wii is your only option.

These types of addictive offline multiplayer are dearly needed on the PS3 aswell as the 360. Online is fun but sometimes I want to beable to play with people in the same room as me. Nothing beats pushing your buddies as you both race towards the next treasure chest or hord of enemies.
 

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You guys complaining about the lack of fun party games with your drunken friends should jump on PSN and buy PAIN, gets real boring playing it single player pretty quickly, but if you fire it up in a room full of friends it's hillarious and the most fun I've had in a group on a console for a long time.
 

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Can't say I miss it as most of my 'gaming' mates have been met through games online now anyway.

I occasionally play co-op in Super Stardust though and its pretty good fun.. 8)
 

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[QUOTE="The Barron, post: 0]Exactly Sony!

Why bother enabling us to have up to 7 connected at once if we're only ever going to have one person playing.


Thinking back the only real times ive played with a friend on a game for any length of time was in R:FOM when my mate and i completed the co-op story mode, and we had a great time doing it too! Was also the one key feature Motorstorm and Burnout Paradise were missing[/quote]

the main reason sony included this was probably for sports games, or games which do not require splitscreen. The only game that i have that supports 7 controllers is NHL 08 (not mine my bro's dont poke fun at me). I posted a thread a few months back relating somewhat to this topic. The only decent splitscreen i have so far is COD4. The problem with resistance is not bots, it is that the maps are HUGE. Me and my friends decided to play a little resistance to take a break from COD4....lets just say COD4 didnt need a break after a couple of minutes. Don't get me wrong, resistance has a great single and co-op story mode, hell even the online is great, but the offline MP? ....
 

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I used to love offline multiplayer back in the day when my brother used to live at home, that was probably around the time of the N64 or something like. Online is cool but nothing is better than actually playing side by side friends and gaming. Even with all this voice chat and fancy stuff, can't compare to playing even some of the simplest graphic multiplayer games like Mario Kart on SNES.
 

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I would love more offline multiplayer games, it is great fun playing with multiple people all together. Splitscreen is a reasonable choice, a lot of people have big TVs nowadays anyway.
 

Sicarius123

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That's funny actually, I remember playing split screen goldeneye on a 34cm and 48cm TV, and now that I have a 46" TV I barely have any split screen action.
 

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I use my PS3 loads for offline multiplayer, maybe it's just my choice of games....4 player split screen on COD4 is amazing, singstar 2 player or pass the mic mode with 8 players is a right laugh, 4 player on pro evo, split screen on GT5:p, 2 player co-op on PJM, Pain, Calling All Cars, SD:HD..theres loads..plus Haze this month and Buzz! next month, it's a good time to be an offline or online player. I wish Motorstorm has splitscreen though, will have to wait for MS2.
 
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I think it's disgraceful that Burnout Paradise didn't have a split screen, anyways. That was the main game that prompted this thread. Anyone care to add to the list people have mentioned so far of offline multiplayer games? And does anyone know if Haze will have bots?
 

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well I've only really played multiplayer in Warhawk, Fifa, MGO, and Super Smash Bros and really, two of those, I'm forced to be online and I play Fifa about 50/50 online/offline and Smash Bros fully offline. actually I did play quite a bit of Resistance coop when I first got the system.

so, no, I don't really miss it because I still engage in it. I think Tekken will give me quite a fun time offline.

imo though, shooter games are best played online in one screen. split screen for non-racing games just has too much going on.
 

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yeah i have to admit when i bought COD4 it was the worst thing about it. at least have a campain multiplayer option. like resistance. that was so much fun. me and a mate did that campaign 5 times. and its not a short game.
 
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Haze has offline splitscreen. Resistance 2 will have offline splitscreen. Motorstorm: Pacific Rift will have offline splitscreen. LBP will have offline mulitplayer. It seems to me that at least some devs realize people like to play with their mates at home.
 

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[QUOTE="deanosrs, post: 0]One of the most significant steps up the PS3 took from its predecessor was online gaming. No PS2 game ever really managed to get a good online community going, but games like Warhawk now exist that revolve solely around online play.

The problem is, developers seem to have forgotten about people who actually have real life friends and enjoy playing multiplayer amongst themselves. Now I appreciate split screen is a pain to program, as you have to effectively cut parts out of the game so you can run 2-4 copies of it at the same time, but I'm really frustrated that no multiplayer seems to cater for this option. For instance, Resistance has an offline multiplayer - but no bots! What's the point? Unless you happen to have 7 Resistance playing friends at your house at the same time and 7 controllers, which I imagine a total of maybe 3 PS3 owners have, you're screwed.

Another good example is Burnout - on the PS2 I used to have great laughs with mates doing not splitscreen but the party modes, where you'd take it in turns to do crashbreakers or burnout chains. How difficult must that be to program? Hardly at all, I would have thought. But is it in the PS3 version...? No.

I don't have time to invest in getting into "clans" and the like online. I'm hardly a casual gamer, don't get me wrong, but the games that I'd be good enough to play online (Pro Evo, Burnout) either leave me with no inspiration to do so, or the servers are just crap. Without Resistance's cooperative mode or UEFA 2008's captain your country mode, for me offline multiplayer gaming on the PS3 is dead. Which is a huge, huge shame.

Loads of my mates had Timesplitters 2 on PS2 and we had some immense games on PS2 with bots. If Haze fails to offer this option, there's going to be at least 4 very dissapointed post-finals uni students come June![/quote]

I don't like playing with myself personally!:DD BOING!!!!!!