Dog the Bounty Hunter / and a Rant about black pop culture

[unr3stricted]

So maybe I'm more racist than I thought... if so, let me know.

Anyways, a man with Dog's background gets so much crap for saying the n' word, and it absolutely appalls me. Imus is one thing, but Dog?

Here is how I feel.

A black person can say the n word. 99% of the time this is no problem.

A white person can say the n word. 100% of the time, this is a HUGE problem.

Now is that not a double standard that one group of people can say a word that another group cannot? I personally view this as racism AGAINST white people.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't say it, and I certainly don't want to. But I say that as a community, we need to either say its ok for everyone, or wrong for EVERYONE. This of course, starts and probably stops, with black pop culture (ie rap, gangster movies, etc).

The occasional use by either race can have its place in a movie, but music and most other movies don't need to have it. And personally, I don't think our culture needs it. And no I'm not some orbit-y clean mouthed guy, I cuss, but making a big deal out of Dog saying something, that Dave Chapelle says on TV of all places all the time is freaking retarded.

Discuss...

 

[kflashin]

It's only funny the way chapelle says it because other black folks know what context he is using it in,where as someone (like DOG) could be using the same word in an offensive way

 

[DINAMO788]

ehhh its not going to go away. most of the people i hear saying it are uneducated people.....among those mainly uneducated black people because they think its cool and whatnot.

in pure humor i think its ok. some of the funniest jokes, imo at least, are the offensive and socially unacceptable ones because you do need to be able to laugh at the bad things. but because you make a joke about them or laugh at them doesn't make you disrespectful, but a lot of the time it shows you have the good sense to not take things too seriously and to be able to laugh it off because then it takes away fromt he hurtful effects.

overall it def better if no one said it. i understand how its worse when white people say it because we "dont understand", but i think that a lot of white people understand the damaging effects more than black people.


overall i dont like the double standard part of how white people are completely not allowed to say it regardless of context, but for harmless humor(and yes humor isn't mean to hurt) i think it should be more allowed.

 

[Behemoko]

Nig*er is in the dictionary. True fact, or at least it was 4 years ago, as there was a black student that became infuriated that it was in Webster's Dictionary. When he was ranting on about it to the teacher, the teacher asked him why he thought it was ok for him to say it, but not for it to be defined. The student said, "because we say nig*a', not nig*er." Man, I was laughing so hard in my head at that poor excuse for a difference. This was in English class BTW.

I don't think anybody should say it, but there isn't really anything that can be done, as long as it is deemed socially acceptable, which to this day, it has yet to lose social acceptance.

 

[roosters93]

Who is this Dog you speak of?

 

[Axe&Hammer]

N!gg3r can only be used by blacks with out outcry,get the **** over it.

 

[unr3stricted]

[QUOTE="Axe&Hammer, post: 0]N!gg3r can only be used by blacks with out outcry,get the **** over it.[/QUOTE]

Get over it? There really is not anything to get over it. I'm not crying, I just saw it on the news and made a quick rant about it.

The point is, if there is something that one group can say but another group cannot, then that is racist. Therefore, blacks are racists towards whites concerning the use of the word n!gg3r.

And yes, I do understand it in comedy, I wasn't actually trying to throw Chapelle under the bus as I loved his show and wish it was back on the air. But comedy is one thing, and senseless use of the word in music, tv, movies etc that are NOT comedy related is what concerns me

 

[Blu-Ray]

Who cares, just let everyone use it and maybe it wouldn't not be a big problem, and I am saying this as a black person. Either that or not saying it at all.

 

[MikeAaronB]

When it's used as a racially charged insult, nobody should say. That pisses me off to an extreme degree. Other than that, the first amendment gives everyone the right to say it...so go nuts, I guess.

 

[Blu-Ray]

I never thought of it like that.

 

[Killller]

Makes a lot of sense, whenever i say "that black guy" or something like that people tell me i'm being racist. When people with color say 'white people', no one complains. wtf?

Seems like only white people can be racist.

 

[Behemoko]

[QUOTE="MikeAaronB, post: 0]When it's used as a racially charged insult, nobody should say. That pisses me off to an extreme degree. Other than that, the first amendment gives everyone the right to say it...so go nuts, I guess.[/quote]

Well, for the sake of why I don't think that is possible, I will give you an example.

Beware, this is not an insult, but I am going to try to show why I don't think it can be seen as un-offensive if spoken by a white person.

Spoiler

"I like nigg3rs." sounds offensive to me. "what a nice nigg3r you are." Also sounds offensive to me, even though neither had malicious intent. Do you see what I mean? I bet just reading that made you at least a little bit angry, did it not? I just can't see it working.

Well, there's my 2 cents. I'm done here, because I don't really see any debate, it's nice that you can keep a level head, but I'm still not going to walk up to my black friends and call them nigge3r because "another black friend said I could" Wouldn't fly, I'd be labled as racist instantly.

 

[MikeAaronB]

^^^ Lol.

The way you use it seemed to have malicious intent to me. If someone were to say that to me, I'd feel like they were undermining me as a human being; making me feel inferior to them. But then again, they could just be joking, so how would I know? Eh...I'm confused....I don't like this topic anymore. Lol.

Unacceptable by my standards:

As an insult; IE: "YOU CHICKEN EATING, BIG LIPPED, WIDE NOSED, NAPPY HEADED, GORILLA FACED, AIDS NIGG3R"!

 

[Behemoko]

[QUOTE="MikeAaronB, post: 0]^^^ Lol.

The way you use it seemed to have malicious intent to me. If someone were to say that to me, I'd feel like they were undermining me as a human being; making me feel inferior to them. But then again, they could just be joking, so how would I know? Eh...I'm confused....I don't like this topic anymore. Lol.

Unacceptable by my standards:

As an insult; IE: "YOU CHICKEN EATING, BIG LIPPED, WIDE NOSED, NAPPY HEADED, GORILLA FACED, AIDS NIGG3R"!

[/quote]

My point exactly. :lol: It just can't be said without sounding mean, I don't like this topic either.

 

[dondidit]

Speaking for my black people *because I am black* Young people use the n word because they have turned it into just a word, while older folks who were tormented in life by white people who called them that to belittle their existence on earth. It still means harm if black or white people say it.

I say bury the word so black and white people cannot use it. We have other things to focus on such as a better economy because United States is falling behind way fast.

And please do not try to justify dave chappelle with dog. Dave is a comedian. Dog is a man without color who blasted his own son for falling in love with a black man that is classic racism and it still goes on in this day my friend.

 

[An_Ocean_Between_Us]

[QUOTE="dondidit, post: 0]Speaking for my black people *because I am black* Young people use the n word because they have turned it into just a word, while older folks who were tormented in life by white people who called them that to belittle their existence on earth. It still means harm if black or white people say it.

I say bury the word so black and white people cannot use it. We have other things to focus on such as a better economy because United States is falling behind way fast.

And please do not try to justify dave chappelle with dog. Dave is a comedian. Dog is a man without color who blasted his own son for falling in love with a black man that is classic racism and it still goes on in this day my friend.[/quote]
It is impossible to do something like that as much as it would make a difference because we will always have these debates over something from the past that SHOULD be forgotten. All nigg*r is, is a word used to describe a group of people, but it is a very degrading way to do it because of where it originated.

 

[Leviticus]

O.k. I don't know how to say this, but i do my best.
Me a "black person", yes i do use the word: "n1gga" which must confuse a lot of you people with the word, "nigg3r" two different words that people don't take the time to found out the differences.

n1gga is a slang that came for the word nigg3r.

Nigg3r is what blacks were called back in the old days by white people.

For some reason this word was put on black people as a negative.
This is the word that whites used to have power over blacks.
So over time, blacks were tired of being put down by white people when they use this word. So black people found a way to take that negative used word, that was used against us for so long and turn it in to a positive for blacks.


Now I keep hearing whites asking way they can't use this word.

One thing you got to understand that it you white people/ old time blacks that say you can't use the word period.

When a young black person, that does use this word and tells a white person that they shouldn't say it. It might be because that black person is saving you form an ass whipping form another black person that might just kick your ass or then some. (And his self too because other blacks will look down on him if they see his white friend say that word and he do nothing about it.)

Now you can say the word just watch where you say it and to whom you say it too. We (blacks) just don't want to see your asses kick or kill over this word. (to white people asking if they can say the word, but which one{nigg3r or n1gga})

Some black people will just F-you-up for saying it, because they're just some black people just hate what happen back in the day toward blacks back then, just as simple as that.

Its no different then some white people who don't like blacks till this day, just as simple as that.

Now if you can't understand that these words are different in the way they are use and with different meaning, then you should just let it go.



P.S. I sorry if anyone is upset that I show these words, however I felt I had to show the differences in these words and meanings they bring, to help those that are confuse by it.

P.S. part 2. Now I hear whites kids all the time calling each other n1gga anyway, so why are you other white people crying to us black people about this in the 1st place.

One thing it might be is you don't know which word to use, as those white kids that where saying the word did know which one to use.


P.S. part 3.

The word "n1gga" is not used as negative. The word "nigg3r" is used in the negative. And black people don't call each other "nigg3r" anyway. ( that would be racist)
The word "n1gga": is use no different then saying; whuz up my dwag, whuz up my dude, or whuz up my n1gga. (not saying this is the only use that it gets)

 

[dondidit]

Yeah but I do not see why the majority of some of my black people get offended when white people use it when they listen to the music and say it on a daily basis. However I can see why most people get offended because they are offended when even black people use that word. People should stop focusing on hatred all across the board and find time consuming things to do like making more money. Either way the word is destructive time has change all white people are not racist anymore.

My thing is where are the Indians I am 25 and the last time I seen a full blooded Indian was in 3rd grade and I had such a crush on her

 

[Ishimaru Kaito]

i am black and i think that word should be banned from history, i personally dn't like dog for what he said, i don't like using that word, i'm sorry for being " Racist " but i hate it when white people say it because that proves ignorance and i dislike that

 

[CORN-DOG-]

[QUOTE="Leviticus, post: 0]
n1gga is a slang that came for the word nigg3r.

Nigg3r is what blacks were called back in the old days by white people.

Now if you can't understand that these words are different in the way they are use and with different meaning, then you should just let it go.[/quote]

Let me ask you this...

If "N1gga" isn't the same word as "nigg3r" then can white people use it without consequences?

If you ask me, I say the words are very much the same regardless of slang or context. To me using the word no matter who you are is disrespectful and ignorant. But this is just my opinion. There are plenty of other words in one's vocabulary that can be used.

 

[Leviticus]

[QUOTE="CORN-DOG-, post: 0]Let me ask you this...

If "N1gga" isn't the same word as "nigg3r" then can white people use it without consequences?

If you ask me, I say the words are very much the same regardless of slang or context. To me using the word no matter who you are is disrespectful and ignorant. But this is just my opinion. There are plenty of other words in one's vocabulary that can be used.[/quote]


The words are different, its simple as that. You can use the word if you want i don't really care. However the consequences that you might get, well that with anything in life. (The consequences could be bad or good or nothing that life.)

Its could be no different then calling someone a dumb Mother-Fer or a dumb ass, or anything to push that person button. If this type of person is going to kick your ass then they are going to kick your ass no matter what you say.

That person just use that word or anythings else for that matter as their reason for kicking your ass.

Banning the word. Man whatever, ban your self for not saying the word, instead asking other not to.

That like me saying I wish white people were ok to vote for someone else for president other then an old white rich man.( yes this goes for blacks and other races too. And yes I do know other people can be president too beside old white rich man, but it seem its not happen anytime soon.)

What I mean we should banned old white rich man for running for president so other types of race or women can be president.


PS (to the bold part) Didn't i say I hear white kids say the word "n1gga" to each other and nothing happen to them so it does happen.

 

[floetry]

Well, there will alwas be a standard. Well, Black people hate n*ggers/***** what have you.

There's two types of people in this world. There's the hardworking man and there is the n*ggas that screw up everything for everyone else. I've seen white people used the word. As long they not using it to me, I'm straight. Same thing with black people. Don't like to hear that word addressed to me at all lol. Word.


Watch Chris rock on youtube. That dude tells the truth!

 

[Axe&Hammer]

[QUOTE="Killller, post: 0]

Seems like only white people can be racist.[/quote]
Bingo,only white people can be racist,everyone else is prejudice.

In the PC world,N!gg3r and all its variations is a black only word,its not that big of deal,unless your a wigger or a racist.

We can't ban words we don't like,however we can refuse to use them.

 

[floetry]

White people are not the only ones that can be racist. I think it just seems that its justified for being racists against whites which should not be the case.

 

[dondidit]

every race has the audacity to be racist. it is not just whites or blacks. most jamacains are prejudice against homosexuals and vienamiese *spelt wrong* people do not get along with chinese people. America is so spoiled lol other countries are far worse than caucasians and african americans.

some countries cut your hands of for stealing. kill you if you are gay. shun you for not beliving in their religion.

 

[floetry]

[QUOTE="dondidit, post: 0]every race has the audacity to be racist. it is not just whites or blacks. most jamacains are prejudice against homosexuals and vienamiese *spelt wrong* people do not get along with chinese people. America is so spoiled lol other countries are far worse than caucasians and african americans.

some countries cut your hands of for stealing. kill you if you are gay. shun you for not beliving in their religion.[/quote]
Exactuenmundo, but this is not racism. It's prejudice. Being anti gay isn't racist. It's prejudice and discrimination. I do agree racism goes deeper than two colors. America is just focused on it for its and its deep roots. This doesn't occur somewhere where black were in the minority.



dang 5 word word rule

 

[Uncool]

[QUOTE="floetry, post: 0]Exactuenmundo, but this is not racism. It's prejudice. Being anti gay isn't racist. It's prejudice and discrimination. I do agree racism goes deeper than two colors. America is just focused on it for its and its deep roots. This doesn't occur somewhere where black were in the minority.



dang 5 word word rule[/quote]Dually noted, people seem to forget that when they mouth off with the words f*****.:-? You also get people who stone homosexuals and what not which is downright autrocious. Nevertheless in the context of comedy and humor, racism is often used for material. However in the context of insulting is another story. Man I need to watch the Boondocks after this lol.

 

[floetry]

[QUOTE="Uncool, post: 0]Dually noted, people seem to forget that when they mouth off with the words f*****.:-? You also get people who stone homosexuals and what not which is downright autrocious. Nevertheless in the context of comedy and humor, racism is often used for material. However in the context of insulting is another story. Man I need to watch the Boondocks after this lol.[/QUOTE]
haha, Boondocks is deep. I love it. I hate to read books, but I love to read books on ignorance and what's the purpose for it. I also read about "The Church" as if there is really one at all.

lol

 

[Uncool]

[QUOTE="floetry, post: 0]haha, Boondocks is deep. I love it. I hate to read books, but I love to read books on ignorance and what's the purpose for it. I also read about "The Church" as if there is really one at all.

lol[/quote]
Also all I am saying is that Uncle Ruckus (from Adults Swims "The Boondock's) puts the Supremacist back in Black/White Supremacist (Thanks to Chapelle's skit on Clayton Bigsby). :lol:

 

[kflashin]

Boondocks is my favorite show Anyways being malado is nice in these situations because I can't be biased,I can talk and act a certain way one day and then be different the next and just blame it on the race.