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Life is sooooo good right now. You sitting in the comfort of a sofa/chair, browsing seemingly limitless content on the internet. Every bit of information and knowledge available in the public domain. News custom tailored to your needs from the outlets of your choice. We have it good, dudes! Don't you agree?



Also, in b4 "cool story bro"
 

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There is far to much stuff to do nowadays. ive got more hobbies than i have time for and with uni/work there really isnt enough hours in the day, cant remember the last time i was bored tbh
 

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Not really, no, I'd much rather live in the 1950's where life, apparently, was the best it ever was, with no internet or TV to numb your mind. And the woman in your life knew where she belonged - in the kitchen making my sandwich. There's too much these days and, like they say, too much of something can be a bad thing and the internet is the proof of all that. Myspace, Bebo, Facebook, etc. are going to be the downfall of society, you'll see.
 

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[QUOTE="T0PGUN, post: 0]Life is shiit right now.[/quote]


I couldn't agree more, though, to be honest. I've never felt so crap.
 

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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]


I couldn't agree more, though, to be honest. I've never felt so crap.[/quote]

I was speaking for myself
 
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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]Not really, no, I'd much rather live in the 1950's where life, apparently, was the best it ever was, with no internet or TV to numb your mind.[/quote]
Ah, the rose tinted nostalgia argument! I dont think there was one aspect of life that was better "back in the day". The problem is that we have started taking the very basic, but essential things in life right now, for granted, as if they weren't even there.

I do agree on the overstimulation bit, though it isnt necessarily a bad thing.
 
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[QUOTE="MiNiMaL_sAnItY, post: 0]Life is sooooo good right now. You sitting in the comfort of a sofa/chair, browsing seemingly limitless content on the internet. Every bit of information and knowledge available in the public domain. News custom tailored to your needs from the outlets of your choice. We have it good, dudes! Don't you agree?



Also, in b4 "cool story bro"[/quote]

i kinda agree with you, the tech we have these days is amazing really and most people take it for granted.
On the other hand though, since im so old i remember the days before mobile phones and internet and people used to talk a lot more...nowadays its all texting/emails.
i used to go round to mates house to play games or they would come over to mine...now we all sit at home playing online.
if we wanted to find something out we'd ask someone or goto the library to research...now we just google...
so yeah the tech is good but its also removed alot of social activities
 

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[QUOTE="MiNiMaL_sAnItY, post: 0]Ah, the rose tinted nostalgia argument! I don't think there was one aspect of life that was better back in the day. The problem is that we have started taking the very basic, but essential, things in life right now for granted, as if they weren't even there.[/quote]
You can't possibly state that life wasn't better back then when you weren't even around to live it. My parents have both said that growing up in the 50's was so much easier than it is for todays generation. For example, they might not have had the internet or TV like we do, but they had the freedom to go outside and play and not be worried about getting mugged, shot, etc. You can't go out these days without wearing body armor under your fourteen thick tops.

And relationships, too, were probably far easier back then. No need to worry about people chatting your partners up on Facebook, etc and no porn to piss the birds off. So, so much simpler. I'd have liked to give it a go, I swear. I would miss my music though.
 

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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]Not really, no, I'd much rather live in the 1950's where life, apparently, was the best it ever was, with no internet or TV to numb your mind. And the woman in your life knew where she belonged - in the kitchen making my sandwich.[/quote]

Please tell me you're joking..



There's too much these days and, like they say, too much of something can be a bad thing and the internet is the proof of all that. Myspace, Bebo, Facebook, etc. are going to be the downfall of society, you'll see.
This is the truth. It's sickening.




I agree Mr. Minimal, I agree.
 
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[QUOTE="scottscorpion, post: 0]i kinda agree with you, the tech we have these days is amazing really and most people take it for granted.
On the other hand though, since im so old i remember the days before mobile phones and internet and people used to talk a lot more...nowadays its all texting/emails.
i used to go round to mates house to play games or they would come over to mine...now we all sit at home playing online.
if we wanted to find something out we'd ask someone or goto the library to research...now we just google...
so yeah the tech is good but its also removed alot of social activities[/quote]
What i'd say is that social activities have remoulded to include the internet at their cores, but not much has changed in that aspect IMO. The texting, facebook and all those sites are just channels of communication as the letter or telegram was back then.


[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]You can't possibly state that life wasn't better back then when you weren't even around to live it. My parents have both said that growing up in the 50's was so much easier than it is for todays generation[/quote]
You havent either, you are giving a vicarious examples with your parents opinions. This part of the argument wont go anywhere.

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]For example, they might not have had the internet or TV like we do, but they had the freedom to go outside and play and not be worried about getting mugged, shot, etc. You can't go out these days without wearing body armor under your fourteen thick tops.[/quote]
Not the same for everyone in the world. the world is now more paranoid though, that might factor in to the body armour argument, which again, is purely anecdotal at this point, but I can see where you're going with that.

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]And relationships, too, were probably far easier back then. No need to worry about people chatting your partners up on Facebook, etc and no porn to piss the birds off. So, so much simpler. I'd have liked to give it a go, I swear. I would miss my music though.[/quote]

How exactly were relationships simpler "back in the day"? Explain please. And :lol: at the porn thing, werent there porn back in the 50s?
 

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Those who say "things are going worse" should remove their nostalgia glasses.
Society has always been more or less stupid.
Now you just know more about it.

Also

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd9OhYroLN0"]YouTube- Linkin Park - Crawling[/ame]

THIS IS SO MY LIFE ;_;

Actually I enjoy my life
 
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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]You can't possibly state that life wasn't better back then when you weren't even around to live it. My parents have both said that growing up in the 50's was so much easier than it is for todays generation. For example, they might not have had the internet or TV like we do, but they had the freedom to go outside and play and not be worried about getting mugged, shot, etc. You can't go out these days without wearing body armor under your fourteen thick tops.

And relationships, too, were probably far easier back then. No need to worry about people chatting your partners up on Facebook, etc and no porn to piss the birds off. So, so much simpler. I'd have liked to give it a go, I swear. I would miss my music though.[/quote]

I can see where you're coming from, but thats such a hard argument to portray, its the simple; grass is greener on the other side. Your parents may simply just not understand all the technology or able to use it to such an advantage as we are since we grew up with it, so they see it more as a hassle.

Personally, I would love to go back just to see how the 50's were, but to say that technology ruined our era is a little difficult, it's just different times. My grandfather was in his late 20's in the 50's and he says his favorite times are right now, so easy to keep in contact with his family through e-mail cause we are all scattered through out the country.
 

Jaeger

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[QUOTE="MiNiMaL_sAnItY, post: 0]How exactly were relationships simpler "back in the day"? Explain please. And :lol: at the porn thing, werent there porn back in the 50s?[/quote]
I can't explain it without sounding like a f*cktarded ********* but, back then, women didn't have to worry so much about their fella (or vice-versa) being hit on or chatted up due to the lack of social networks like Facebook, Myspace, etc. The only time a man could get hit on is at the bar and, as far as I know, either men were recovering from the war or they were hard at work earning their wage for the household. These days, however, women have to worry about their partner (or, again, vice-versa) being hit on by some random moron on Facebook. There's a lot more mistrust in the world these days than there was in 1950. Which leads me on to...

...the whole porn arguement. Yeah, they had porn back in the 1950's but, again, it was a minimal amount compared to today. You'd be able to pop down the local grocery store and pick up a copy of Playboy or whatever and that was about it; it would be a lot more difficult to hide the porn back then. Todays world, however, is littered with the stuff. There's about a million or so porn websites popping up all over the place, and for a variety of stuff, and it's a lot easier to look at and hide than a magazine. It's because of this why so many women mistrust their partner (or vice-versa) when they're on the Internet. Your girlfriend/boyfriend may seem okay with you browsing the web but, trust me, deep down they're wondering what sites you've been on.
 
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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]Not really, no, I'd much rather live in the 1950's where life, apparently, was the best it ever was, with no internet or TV to numb your mind. And the woman in your life knew where she belonged - in the kitchen making my sandwich.[/quote]

funny how guys say stuff like this and yet it's almost impossible to find a man these days who would be happy to be the sole provider whilst his wife stayed home doing nothing but cooking/cleaning.

frankly I'd LOVE to not have to have a job (I mean, who wouldn't? I actually love what I do but still, not working is better than working :D). It would be great if it was my husband's job to earn all of the money and my only worries were how clean the house was and how pretty I looked/smelled when he got home, but he'd divorce me first, genuinely.

I don't know a single guy who would be okay with working and having his wife stay home, even lots of the guys I know who have kids. so either you're a total rarity or you're not really thinking that sort of lifestyle through to the end :D
 

Jaeger

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[QUOTE="maggiemgill, post: 0]Funny how guys say stuff like this and yet it's almost impossible to find a man these days who would be happy to be the sole provider while his wife stayed home doing nothing but cooking and cleaning.

Frankly, I'd LOVE to not have to have a job (I mean, who wouldn't? I actually love what I do but still, not working is better than working). It would be great if it was my husband's job to earn all of the money and my only worries were how clean the house was and how pretty I looked smelled when he got home, but he'd divorce me first, genuinely.

I don't know a single guy who would be okay with working and having his wife stay home, even lots of the guys I know who have kids. so either you're a total rarity or you're not really thinking that sort of lifestyle through to the end.[/quote]
I'd much rather go to work and earn a wage and come home to a clean house and a beast of a sandwich than have the woman think she's worth something in this world. Now get in the kitchen and fix me some lunch up, damn it.
 

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[QUOTE="scottscorpion, post: 0]i kinda agree with you, the tech we have these days is amazing really and most people take it for granted.
On the other hand though, since im so old i remember the days before mobile phones and internet and people used to talk a lot more...nowadays its all texting/emails.
i used to go round to mates house to play games or they would come over to mine...now we all sit at home playing online.
if we wanted to find something out we'd ask someone or goto the library to research...now we just google...
so yeah the tech is good but its also removed alot of social activities[/quote]
i disagree, kids still go round each others houses, im 18 and spend a lot of time either at college with my mates, at the pub with my mates or at a mates house. and my dad is very rarely out with his mates, and he can just about log onto his user account on the pc. and i would argue the internet has brought me more "friends" there is no way in a million year i would know steff or shaun, if it wasn't for the internet. (and yes i do consider those two members to be mates of sort)

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]You can't possibly state that life wasn't better back then when you weren't even around to live it. My parents have both said that growing up in the 50's was so much easier than it is for todays generation. For example, they might not have had the internet or TV like we do, but they had the freedom to go outside and play and not be worried about getting mugged, shot, etc. You can't go out these days without wearing body armor under your fourteen thick tops.

And relationships, too, were probably far easier back then. No need to worry about people chatting your partners up on Facebook, etc and no porn to piss the birds off. So, so much simpler. I'd have liked to give it a go, I swear. I would miss my music though.[/quote]

ok, society is no worse now than it was 50 years ago. we are just exposed to the bad stuff more. children are no more or less likely to get kidnapped or murdered, its just it was never reported back then and we are constantly exposed to it. My parents let me play out when i wanted, juts as they were aloud to play out by their parents. and are you really advocating we go back to a society where open racism and sexism were acceptable and the threat of nuclear holocaust was so real people went to bed wondering if they would wake up the next day ?

the only way you think that the olden days were any better is if you read the daily mail or the express.


and to answer minimals question. yep life is great. its a bit crappy right now, but as a whole concept. its great.
 

Jaeger

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[QUOTE="squirrelbo1, post: 0]OK, society is no worse now than it was 50 years ago. We are just exposed to the bad stuff more. Children are no more or less likely to get kidnapped or murdered, it's just it was never reported back then and we are constantly exposed to it. My parents let me play out when I wanted, just as they were allowed to play out by their parents. And are you really advocating we go back to a society where open racism and sexism were acceptable and the threat of nuclear holocaust was so real people went to bed wondering if they would wake up the next day?

The only way you think that the olden days were any better is if you read The Daily Mail or The Express.[/quote]
Would it really make much difference if we did go back to a time where open racism and sexism was acceptable? I mean, I know racism and sexism is 'frowned upon' these days but nothing is ever done about it. You read all about gang killings and what not down to race and ethnic origins but nothing is ever done about - we may as well go back in time to the 1950's because there'd be no difference at all.

And, given the current state of affairs, maybe not waking up tomorrow due to a nuclear holocause isn't such a bad thing. The world as it stands is a complete pile of crap. There's scum walking the earth who deserve to die, and there are people dying who deserve to lead a rich and happy life. Why not just kill us all and get it over and done with? Nobodies happy, nobodies sad, nobody would be alive to miss someone - it's a win-win situation.

And, yeah, I do read The Daily Mail - not so much The Express - and I enjoy reading it. The only qualm I have with TDM is the fact they always blame videogames when a murder occurs. Other than that, it's pretty damn good.
 
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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]I can't explain it without sounding like a f*cktarded ********* but, back then, women didn't have to worry so much about their fella (or vice-versa) being hit on or chatted up due to the lack of social networks like Facebook, Myspace, etc. [/quote]
I dont know if you are joking with the whole sexist persona or not, so i'll leave this facet of the argument.

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]The only time a man could get hit on is at the bar and, as far as I know, either men were recovering from the war or they were hard at work earning their wage for the household.[/quote]
... And this was better than it is now? Really?

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]These days, however, women have to worry about their partner (or, again, vice-versa) being hit on by some random moron on Facebook. There's a lot more mistrust in the world these days than there was in 1950. [/quote]
Again, people(or morons as you put it) were hitting, and were being hit on even before the advent of facebook. You seem to be asserting that facebook has started all these problems, and through anecdotes no less(I could make up similar stories to counter your arguments).

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]...the whole porn arguement. Yeah, they had porn back in the 1950's but, again, it was a minimal amount compared to today. You'd be able to pop down the local grocery store and pick up a copy of Playboy or whatever and that was about it; it would be a lot more difficult to hide the porn back then. Todays world, however, is littered with the stuff. There's about a million or so porn websites popping up all over the place, and for a variety of stuff, and it's a lot easier to look at and hide than a magazine. It's because of this why so many women mistrust their partner (or vice-versa) when they're on the Internet. Your girlfriend/boyfriend may seem okay with you browsing the web but, trust me, deep down they're wondering what sites you've been on.[/quote]
OK, so porn has become easier to hide now. Fine. And that causes women to mistrust their partner when they're on the internet? And this wasnt a problem with the magazine hiding back when? Your point, again?

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]Would it really make much difference if we did go back to a time where open racism and sexism was acceptable? I mean, I know racism and sexism is 'frowned upon' these days but nothing is ever done about it. You read all about gang killings and what not down to race and ethnic origins but nothing is ever done about - we may as well go back in time to the 1950's because there'd be no difference at all.[/quote]
So you recon we go back to no progress at all, rather than living in a time with some progress? There are laws against racism and sexism, which werent there back then. How is going back "better"?

[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]And, given the current state of affairs, maybe not waking up tomorrow due to a nuclear holocause isn't such a bad thing. The world as it stands is a complete pile of crap. There's scum walking the earth who deserve to die, and there are people dying who deserve to lead a rich and happy life. Why not just kill us all and get it over and done with? Nobodies happy, nobodies sad, nobody would be alive to miss someone - it's a win-win situation.[/quote]
Oh yeah, the looming threat of nuclear holocaust was waay better than the condition right now. :lol: Do you realize that there are happy people out there, you know, ones who want to continue their lives? I mean the audacity to announce on behalf of the whole world that nobody is happy and that people "deserve" to die! :no
 

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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]Would it really make much difference if we did go back to a time where open racism and sexism was acceptable? I mean, I know racism and sexism is 'frowned upon' these days but nothing is ever done about it. You read all about gang killings and what not down to race and ethnic origins but nothing is ever done about - we may as well go back in time to the 1950's because there'd be no difference at all.

And, given the current state of affairs, maybe not waking up tomorrow due to a nuclear holocause isn't such a bad thing. The world as it stands is a complete pile of crap. There's scum walking the earth who deserve to die, and there are people dying who deserve to lead a rich and happy life. Why not just kill us all and get it over and done with? Nobodies happy, nobodies sad, nobody would be alive to miss someone - it's a win-win situation.

And, yeah, I do read The Daily Mail - not so much The Express - and I enjoy reading it. The only qualm I have with TDM is the fact they always blame videogames when a murder occurs. Other than that, it's pretty damn good.[/quote]

yes, it would be an issue if racism and sexism were ok. they are not. discrimination becuase of somebody's appearance is wrong on sooo many levels. admitedly if society was racist and sexist, i would face no barriers, in fact it would be easier because i would get things becuase i am a white middle class male, but its so very very wrong. and how you fail to see that simply astounds me. yes there are some scummy people, and yes good men are dying in wars overseas, but it is no different now than before. yell millions of young brave men had just died a few years prior to the decade you are advocating.

and lol at the daily mail. its sexist, racist, homophobic, ageist, classist. infact im trying to think of things it is good for. the tv guide it ok i guess, and there is one sports writer who is pretty decent. I am so baffled as to why people buy that newspaper.
 

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[QUOTE="MiNiMaL_sAnItY, post: 0]Again, people (or morons as you put it) were hitting, and were being hit on, even before the advent of Facebook. You seem to be asserting that Facebook has started all these problems, and through anecdotes no less. I could make up similar stories to counter your arguments.

OK, so porn has become easier to hide now. Fine. And that causes women to mistrust their partner when they're on the internet? And this wasnt a problem with the magazine hiding back when? Your point, again?[/quote]
My point is that women had more reason to trust their man back in the 1950's than they do now. Yeah, people were flirting back then but, the message I was trying to get across is that the men were too busy to even go out and get chatted up in the first place. Todays generation, however, are living off the social and have more than enough time to go out on the town and get hit on - or hit on someone else - by some random, thus giving women a sense of mistrust.

The same goes for the pornography. What I was trying to get across there is that the man daren't bring porn home back then - it would be nigh-on impossible to hide what with the woman doing her cleaning - but you don't need to bring porn home now. You can look it, right-click and *poof* it's gone in an instant. I know several people who have had relationships ruined because of this mistrust.
 

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[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 0]My point is that women had more reason to trust their man back in the 1950's than they do now. Yeah, people were flirting back then but, the message I was trying to get across is that the men were too busy to even go out and get chatted up in the first place. Todays generation, however, are living off the social and have more than enough time to go out on the town and get hit on - or hit on someone else - by some random, thus giving women a sense of mistrust.

The same goes for the pornography. What I was trying to get across there is that the man daren't bring porn home back then - it would be nigh-on impossible to hide what with the woman doing her cleaning - but you don't need to bring porn home now. You can look it, right-click and *poof* it's gone in an instant. I know several people who have had relationships ruined because of this mistrust.[/quote]

i honestly think those relationships were not built on a healthy basis, if a bit of porn watching was enough for it to be ended. there had to be other underlying factors.

and men were not too bust to go out and get chatted up, if anything people had more time. there was 8 till 5 down the factory or in the machine shop, or in the law firm etc. now people spend half their lives at work and then when they get home, there is emails that they have to read at home. my mum does it, and she just works in the bloody library at a college, and she still has to check her emails and stuff at home, imaging what its like for people when they literally have to do stuff as it comes through. so in that sense I agree technology has become more of a burden.
 
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[QUOTE="scottscorpion, post: 0]i kinda agree with you, the tech we have these days is amazing really and most people take it for granted.
On the other hand though, since im so old i remember the days before mobile phones and internet and people used to talk a lot more...nowadays its all texting/emails.
i used to go round to mates house to play games or they would come over to mine...now we all sit at home playing online.
if we wanted to find something out we'd ask someone or goto the library to research...now we just google...
so yeah the tech is good but its also removed alot of social activities[/quote]If I lived near you Id be glad to come to your house and play games :) Youre cool