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John25

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[QUOTE="Xelis, post: 0]Still amazed Hammy's managed to grab a second points position.[/quote]

dont worry the FIA will find a reason to take the point away before the next race.

yer he did well but was having trouble with a Limiter towards the end of the
race
 

Surebrec

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ecclestone is trying his hardest to balls F1 up, this is the latest episode in his master plan.

there is no way he should be twisting event organizers arms behind their back and using threats of removal from the calendar to get his way by making them start their race later to accommodate us in the west.

we were lucky it was a clear race in australia last week, or that race could have been jeopardized by poor light late on.

good result for JB though, back to back wins.
 

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[QUOTE="JOHN25, post: 0]dont worry the FIA will find a reason to take the point away before the next race.

yer he did well but was having trouble with a Limiter towards the end of the
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I have complete faith the FIA will find a reason to take his point from him, they've mastered the art over the past 2 years.

Ferrari royally ****ed up again. They ruined both Kimi and Massa's weekend :lol:.

[QUOTE="Surebrec, post: 0]ecclestone is trying his hardest to balls F1 up, this is the latest episode in his master plan.

there is no way he should be twisting event organizers arms behind their back and using threats of removal from the calendar to get his way by making them start their race later to accommodate us in the west.

we were lucky it was a clear race in australia last week, or that race could have been jeopardized by poor light late on.

good result for JB though, back to back wins.[/quote]
I fully agree, a true F1 fan will have no problems getting up at 4am to watch a live race. It's on again at 1pm for the people who don't wish to get up. Why fix something that's unbroken?
 

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[QUOTE="Xelis, post: 0]Do you Aussies have the BBC commentry with Martin Brundle?[/quote]

Yep. :D

[QUOTE="JOHN25, post: 0]
yer he did well but was having trouble with a Limiter towards the end of the
race[/quote]

Yeah, he mentioned that in 6th gear, it was hitting the rev-limiter early.

[QUOTE="Surebrec, post: 0]ecclestone is trying his hardest to balls F1 up, this is the latest episode in his master plan.

there is no way he should be twisting event organizers arms behind their back and using threats of removal from the calendar to get his way by making them start their race later to accommodate us in the west.

we were lucky it was a clear race in australia last week, or that race could have been jeopardized by poor light late on.

good result for JB though, back to back wins.[/quote]

Bernie Ecclestone is a major ****ing idiot! :p

The drivers complained that the sun was in their eyes in the Australian GP, so I think that next year the Australian GP and Malaysian GP will go back to their normal starting times.

[QUOTE="Xelis, post: 0]
Ferrari royally ****ed up again. They ruined both Kimi and Massa's weekend :lol:.[/quote]

They took a gamble with Kimi. It would've payed off if they waited a few more laps.
Massa did an alright job to finish 9th. If the race wasn't red-flagged; he would've moved into a point-scoring position.
 

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I don't know who failed most this weekend . .

Ferrari for the balls up with Kimi.

FIA - Did they move it later for UK viewers or to defo get rain? Even the Malaysians said that if it rains, it pours so it seems stupid.

The new BBC commentator who said Vettel (i think) had spun twice, but then realised he was watching the replay like the rest of us :)
 

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[QUOTE="desolationw, post: 0]
The new BBC commentator who said Vettel (i think) had spun twice, but then realised he was watching the replay like the rest of us :)[/quote]

Yeah, I heard that.
Me and my dad both laughed. :p

The other thing I found really funny was seeing Kimi get a chocolate icecream and a can of coke out of the fridge when the race wasn't officially cancelled yet. :p
 

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They completely ruined F1 with the new car's, yeah all the big teams aren't doing well which is good for the sport but last years cars were so much faster.
 

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[QUOTE="Xsjado, post: 0]They completely ruined F1 with the new car's, yeah all the big teams aren't doing well which is good for the sport but last years cars were so much faster.[/quote]

It's made the races more interesting and more competitive.

Being a massive Ferrari fan, I would love to see Ferrari dominate, but seeing teams like Brawn and Toyota perform well, it's good.
 

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[QUOTE="DonMare, post: 0]Yeah, I heard that.
Me and my dad both laughed. :p

The other thing I found really funny was seeing Kimi get a chocolate icecream and a can of coke out of the fridge when the race wasn't officially cancelled yet. :p[/quote]

lol he did that because Ferrari gave him and Massa a choice of retireing or
finishing the Race (which likely would of finished under the Safety car rule)
and as Kimi was 14th,there was no point really continuing :D
 

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[QUOTE="JOHN25, post: 0]lol he did that because Ferrari gave him and Massa a choice of retireing or
finishing the Race (which likely would of finished under the Safety car rule)
and as Kimi was 14th,there was no point really continuing :D[/quote]

Yeah, but the fact that he got changed into his t-shirt and shorts, grabbed an icecream and then a coke was really funny. :p
Love Kimi! Very funny guy!

Have you seen the video where the reporter asekd Kimi where he was and he replied that he was taking a ****? LoL! :p
 

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[QUOTE="venomsteve, post: 0]was I the only one that thought Button was gonna win?!

:cool:

What was the race like? I totally missed it![/quote]

I thought Button had a chance. :p

The race was really good, until it started raining and got red-flagged.
 

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[QUOTE="Xelis, post: 0]
I fully agree, a true F1 fan will have no problems getting up at 4am to watch a live race. It's on again at 1pm for the people who don't wish to get up. Why fix something that's unbroken?[/quote]


exactly!!!

I always enjoyed getting up in the middle of the night to watch an F1 race, there was always something special about it, and I bet all passionate supporters are/were the same
 

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[QUOTE="Surebrec, post: 0]exactly!!!

I always enjoyed getting up in the middle of the night to watch an F1 race, there was always something special about it, and I bet all passionate supporters are/were the same[/quote]
I know I loved it, even though I was knackered, rushing downstairs and trying to butter my toast before they finish their parade lap :lol:. Fun times.
 

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That was an eventful race today, it was like cat and mouse with Button switching to whatever tyre Glock put on. Ferrari tried to sneak it but were caught out by the weather forecasts. It was definately the right decision to call the race off, just before the safety car came out it showed you a clip of a car in the spray of the car infront and they could see nothing.
 

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Diffuser appeal hearing underway in Paris

The FIA’s International Court of Appeal meets in Paris on Tuesday to consider the legality of the diffusers used by the Brawn, Toyota and Williams teams at the first two Grands Prix of 2009. Whatever the outcome, the Court’s decision is likely to have a huge impact on this year’s title chase.

The revised technical regulations for 2009, designed to cut downforce, specify a much smaller rear diffuser. However, Brawn, Toyota and Williams have all taken advantage of apparent loopholes in the rules, adapting other areas of bodywork to effectively enlarge their diffusers.

Stewards at both the season-opening Australian Grand Prix and the second round in Malaysia declared the ‘double-decker’ designs, which use bodywork openings to feed them more air, legal. However, BMW Sauber, Ferrari, Red Bull and Renault have all appealed the stewards’ findings, questioning whether the diffusers adhere to the wording and spirit of the regulations.

Should the Court agree with them, it could in theory strip Brawn, Toyota and Williams of their points from Melbourne and Sepang, which would dramatically alter the face of the championship table. Alternatively, it could insist they change their diffusers for a more ‘conventional’ design.

If the Court deems the diffusers legal, then it will leave the other seven teams on the grid playing catch-up. Many have already begun development of similar diffuser designs - thought to be worth as much as half a second per lap - which, if required, could be introduced as early as the Bahrain Grand Prix later this month.

A decision is expected from the Court on Wednesday afternoon.
I can't wait for a decision to be made. It's gonna have a huge impact on this year's championship.
Either Brawn, Toyota and Williams are gonna lose all their points or teams like Ferrari and Renault are gonna change there diffusers in time for the Bahrain GP.
 

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if the appeal is upheld, I think the FIA will have the choice in what course of action to take, either strip the points for the offending teams, or allow them to keep their points and outlaw the diffusers from that point onwards.

if I was a betting man and the appeal was in fact upheld, I'd put my money on them being allowed to keep their points and have to modify their diffs to bring them into line with the other teams. I don't think even the FIA will risk rocking the boat to the extent of disqualifying the 3 parties involved, there would be a major public uproar.

on the other hand, the outcome I am hoping for may materialize, that the appeal is thrown out.
 

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[QUOTE="Surebrec, post: 0]breaking news!!

appeal thrown out

fantastic.[/quote]

thats really great news it would have been a shame if Brawn and button got stripped of there 2 GP wins
 
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[QUOTE="DonMare, post: 0]I think we can expect new diffusers on the Ferrari and Renault etc. by the Bahrain GP.[/quote]

And on the Mclaren and every other car on the grid lol.

Excellent news for the Brawn team, I honestly couldn't see how they could be deemed illegal after the FIA OK'd them and 2 sets of race stewards.

Looking forward to the chinese grand prix this weekend.
 

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Think Mclaren have already been working on summit, they will be the 1st team (to not have em) to come out with summit!

Its good the the FIA didnt ban the difusers
 
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[QUOTE="DonMare, post: 0]No team will have new diffusers by the Chinese GP this weekend. They'll all have then by the Bahrain GP though.[/quote]

I'm not expecting they will, I wouldn't be suprised if most teams had been working on these long before the hearing though.
 

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It's good to see something in F1 race related not being decided in a court room. Can you imagine the fan outrage if they now banned the diffusers? Being a McLaren/Hamilton fan, I would have been pissed if Brawn/Toyota/Williams had to forfeit all their race-earned points.
 

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[QUOTE="DonMare, post: 0]No team will have new diffusers by the Chinese GP this weekend. They'll all have then by the Bahrain GP though.[/quote]

actually, renault have been quoted as saying they have a new diffuser ready to go, I'd be prepared to bet that all the well funded teams have diffs either done and dusted by now, or in theory have one close to the stage where they can be put to use.

the sticking point as to whether they will have them or not is not the design of them, it's fitting, understanding and making adjustments

the teams lower down the grid are the ones who will be left lagging.
 

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yeah its cool that they haven't deducted the points as the season becomes a lot more interesting plus the design and implementation of new diffuser for other teams will take a while to be tested!