Hand up who thinks Vista is a smelly piece of poo?

cpike84

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It's a new Microsoft OS... at first everyone hates them, but as time goes on they learn to love them. Patches upon patches and new drivers will eventually make this OS superior to XP. Just give it some time.

Right now, yeah it blows worse than XP. I'd say by the end of the year I'll make the switch to Vista, cause by then it should be running very well.
 
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I have only used it for limited time, got frustrated and then removed that partition. But I find that with home media it works just fine, although finding codecs that worked for awhile was a pain.
From the gaming aspect, with a dual core, its a complete waste of time.
 

cpike84

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[QUOTE="MiNiMaL_sAnItY, post: 0]I've been using vista for months now, and no problems for me yet, all the games run fine, all the drivers work fine, etc.[/quote]


You must have a lucky setup of hardware then. Lot's of the best hardware you can have has issues with drivers. for instance, lots of people having 8800gtx problems... I had sound problems with both my Audizy 2zs and my new X-fi. It won't support 7.1 surround sound with vista for almost all games. Games run about 10-15% slower on Vista than on XP. For now, XP is the best gaming OS.
 
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[QUOTE="cpike84, post: 0]You must have a lucky setup of hardware then. Lot's of the best hardware you can have has issues with drivers. for instance, lots of people having 8800gtx problems... I had sound problems with both my Audizy 2zs and my new X-fi. It won't support 7.1 surround sound with vista for almost all games. Games run about 10-15% slower on Vista than on XP. For now, XP is the best gaming OS.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, lucky. >_>

I dont have any of those hardware, but gaming is actually faster for me(better framerates) for me in vista when im playing fear.
 

cpike84

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Hmm that's odd.... cause on 5 different computers, I've verified to have FEAR run slower on Vista. Oh well, what the heck is Microsoft doing while I sit and wait for better drivers?
 
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atean_boy

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Umm...

Vista sucks dirty hairy ass.

XP is the best thing that ever happened 2 Microsoft.

Im converting from XP to Linux later this year.

:p
 
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age one

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Yep, its been junk for me too. Drivers are crap, I lost 3d with it! I had to use a wireless card because the eithernet port on the motherboard would just stop working after about a hour. it never reported any problems.. it just wouldn't work any more. pinging it showed it there but it would go no further, restart and it worked again for another hour. never had the problem before with xp.

I have a AMD64 computer.. don't even ask about the problems I had with vistas 64 bit drivers.. I'm using 32bit now.

My scanner/printer is now only half usefull.. no drivers for the scanner, but it still prints.

for some random reason, If I'm using IE it will crash and blame it on firefox! thats my favorite part of the whole thing, and pretty much sums up microsoft.

there are more drivers with linux then this piece of trash. If this is the best they can do, they better start buying stock in mac, I'm not a mac fan by any means but at least there stuff works.

I'm gonna dig up my old XP disc to make my computer actually work again.
 

cpike84

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Funny you should mention how mac's work. A few months back I was taking a one week class... well I was sitting in on the class, I work in IT, and I was using my laptop with XP on it as this guy next to me was using a Mac. We were into the Macromedia Dreamweaver suite and we were working with Fireworks and doing some picture editing. His Mac decided to freeze up on him for no apparent reason, just because it felt like it I guess, and he lost about a half hour of work and had to shut it off and turn it back on. My XP lappy just kept chugging away.

In the end, a computer is a computer, and all of them have issues. There isn't such a thing as flawless software.
 

Jubae

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I have Vista and the biggest issue with me is conflict with hardware and its pretty devistating to not be able to play games like Warcraft III competively when Vista is causing major problems. For example my ATI X1900 AIW is not running as smoothly as it should while playing Warcraft III and it crashes randomly or freezes up my computer. Also one of the biggest issues is I can't use the TV tuner on my $500 X1900 ATI AIW card because Vista doesn't support the function of ATI AIW card and guess what ATI is doing nothing to change that so far Microsoft doesn't really care either. Its Ironic they add Media Center into Vista and ATI AIW cards are useless.
 
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Vista is definatly better, but not worth it, in any way. I -hate- Vista, but I know I'll use it within the year... MS better start picking up thier OS's now.
 

justsayin

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Overall Vista has been very good for me. There are definitely some things that are a clear improvement over XP. I have run into some minor issues, but nothing that is not common with a new OS.

I personally haven't had any driver issues, but I know some have. The thing is that drivers issues are the fault of the hardware manufacturer, not Microsoft’s. Blame your card manufacturer, not Microsoft.

As others have pointed out., the problems with Vista will disappear as time goes on.
 
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lol.

A few weeks ago I installed a computer with vista home basic. The thing crashed at least 5 times already. I told the owners not to buy from dell. I swear they are so cheap if you get a 64 bit system they give you the 32 bit version of vista which sucks monkey balls. Plus I do not know how in the world you get a computer that has 498 mb of ram. I did not know if that is suppose to be possible.
 

Fallout Boy

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[QUOTE="pacific808, post: 0] Plus I do not know how in the world you get a computer that has 498 mb of ram. I did not know if that is suppose to be possible.[/QUOTE]

Some RAM especially Generic ram can have conflicts with certian chipsets, and you gives a weird value. Although its strange if its a dell, you may actually have a fault with your RAM.

The stick is probably 512. Although if you are running Vista on 512 it does choke it.

I'v got it running on it but you have to turn off all the high graphics user interfaces aswell as stopping non-essential services.
 

soldier one

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I have it for almost a month now and love it, it runs so smoothly etc... The only problem i have is the drivers will NOT work with any of my games and no matter what i do it wont fix itself.
 
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Aleman

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I've been using Vista Enterprise for three months now and I like Vista a whole lot more than XP. At first I was annoyed at the lack of driver compatibility with my laptop but that is now a thing of the past. New features like Shadow Copy (Ultimate and Enterprise only, I think) and the integrated search tool are so nice. I've also found that perfomance is a lot better than XP. I can have [email protected] running at 100% CPU usage on both of my Core 2 Duo cores and my computer feels just as responsive as usual.

Little things like the indicator that tells how fast things are transferring from a USB drive are nice too. I also like the new Linux- and OS-X-like organization of your stuff into a user folder. The Favorite Links panel in the left of Windows Explorer is sweet too (too directories to it, just drag them to the "Links" folder under your personal directory).

Oh, and I like the eye candy a lot :)

My laptop: HP nc8430, 2 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 GB RAM, 256 MB ATI Radeon X1600 GPU
 

iLLuSionS

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didnt give much expectations to it since it got announced... it should of been secured b4 it got released... ie drivers and stuff. sure, we should wait for it, but why wait when M$ coulda made it better at first.

so both my hands are up.
 
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Aleman

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[QUOTE="iLLuSionS, post: 0]didnt give much expectations to it since it got announced... it should of been secured b4 it got released... ie drivers and stuff. sure, we should wait for it, but why wait when M$ coulda made it better at first.

so both my hands are up.[/quote]

Device driver support is not entirely up to Microsoft. You can't expect them to include high performance drivers for every piece of hardware out there.
 

Varsh

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[QUOTE="clockwork_satan, post: 0]I mean, really... Drivers don't work, it sucks system resources like deep throat, and don't get me started on the DRM nonsense...[/QUOTE]
The only drivers I don't have that don't work right now are my Creative PCPRO-750 Webcam, and my Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T PCI card. Other than that, the OS runs better than XP Pro, as for DRMs, I really don't see why people have a problem with it.
[QUOTE="cpike84, post: 0]Right now, yeah it blows worse than XP. I'd say by the end of the year I'll make the switch to Vista, cause by then it should be running very well.[/QUOTE]
It runs better than XP, it's already superior by a long shot to XP, just switch now if you know you have the drivers for everything, it really is a better experience.
[QUOTE="Sticks4Legs, post: 0]I have only used it for limited time, got frustrated and then removed that partition. But I find that with home media it works just fine, although finding codecs that worked for awhile was a pain.
From the gaming aspect, with a dual core, its a complete waste of time.[/QUOTE]
Finding codecs was hard? I downloaded the latest K-Lite Codec Pack and it all ran fine, not a problem. And saying that a dual core is a waste of time? I bet you were using Vista 32 and not Vista 64 because it runs dead quick.
[QUOTE="cpike84, post: 0]You must have a lucky setup of hardware then. Lot's of the best hardware you can have has issues with drivers. for instance, lots of people having 8800gtx problems... I had sound problems with both my Audizy 2zs and my new X-fi. It won't support 7.1 surround sound with vista for almost all games. Games run about 10-15% slower on Vista than on XP. For now, XP is the best gaming OS.[/QUOTE]
I have an X-Fi, I can run in Gaming Mode with a full 5.1 setup and EAX 3.0, and games run a lot faster for me.
[QUOTE="age one, post: 0]Yep, its been junk for me too. Drivers are crap, I lost 3d with it! I had to use a wireless card because the eithernet port on the motherboard would just stop working after about a hour. it never reported any problems.. it just wouldn't work any more. pinging it showed it there but it would go no further, restart and it worked again for another hour. never had the problem before with xp.

I have a AMD64 computer.. don't even ask about the problems I had with vistas 64 bit drivers.. I'm using 32bit now.

My scanner/printer is now only half usefull.. no drivers for the scanner, but it still prints.

for some random reason, If I'm using IE it will crash and blame it on firefox! thats my favorite part of the whole thing, and pretty much sums up microsoft.

there are more drivers with linux then this piece of trash. If this is the best they can do, they better start buying stock in mac, I'm not a mac fan by any means but at least there stuff works.

I'm gonna dig up my old XP disc to make my computer actually work again.[/QUOTE]
That has to be THE biggest pile of FUD I have ever read, and for starters you're blaming drivers on an OS developer that has just brought a new OS platform to the menu, you should know that there will be driver issues, it's common sense, looks as though you seem to lack it. Drivers are made compatible ONLY after an OS release, why? Because manufacturers can't make drivers for the OS otherwise.
[QUOTE="Jubae, post: 0]Also one of the biggest issues is I can't use the TV tuner on my $500 X1900 ATI AIW card because Vista doesn't support the function of ATI AIW card and guess what ATI is doing nothing to change that so far Microsoft doesn't really care either. Its Ironic they add Media Center into Vista and ATI AIW cards are useless.[/QUOTE]
It's the same with NVIDIA and their WDM drivers, Vista is different and because it was made from the ground up, it broke the WDM (used for you AIW), and various other driver supports (including horizontal spanning...nooo!), but Microsoft are in the process on working on the WDM issue.
[QUOTE="darkmatter, post: 0]Vista is definatly better, but not worth it, in any way. I -hate- Vista, but I know I'll use it within the year... MS better start picking up thier OS's now.[/QUOTE]
It's the manufacturers that need to sort themselves out NOT MS, Vista is a highly stable OS that has not once crashed on me, I swear this thing is crash proof. Vista is with all due respect their best OS to date by FAR.

I really can't believe the FUD that some people write though.
 
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...It only makes me wish that M$ had a proper contender in the OS arena.

Sure, Linux is about, but it has little in the way of support for games and is hardly user-friendly.
 
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Wait till SP1 then buy it. I don't like it now. We had a horrible time trying to remove a program off of my friends computer. To this day it is still stuck..
 

mickice

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Oh you poeple have no idea how many companies willingly upgrade to Vista thinking it's an improvement, i can tell ya .. Vista is a downgrade.

Bill Gaytes has really been snow ballin trying to keep the X-box and Microsoft afloat, i don't think he can handle the pressure of a phailing console with SERIOUS problems and a pathetic attempt at a new OS.
 

asonda

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Windows Vista, Will be on nearly every consumers machine by the year end 2007. The only real contender to Windows is Mac, which for many is too specialist...

Then...There's Linux, which stated above isn't exactly user friendly and doesn't support a number of things.

I'd like to see Microsoft actually concentrate on something they do well, I.E the Operating Systems. They should carry on with the 360 (Forget the Elite) and then when it's life has come to an end, put it t bed once and for all. Remember Zune anybody?

With the immense power Microsoft has, instead of trying to make pound after pound, penny after penny in every concievable market, I think it's about time they stop thinking about trying to gain a monopoly on every technology market out there and just concentrate on building the best OS ever.

Vista wether we like it or not, is XPs replacement, I have tried it for program compatibility etc only and I won't be using it properly until SP1 or SP2 arrives. XP will become obsolete, just like 95, 98 and ME has in the past year.

Consumers who buy new machines don't exactly have a choice!

There are some good points about vista, It is trendy (even if it does eat system resources) eith the Home Premium you get the Media Centre.

See past the resources and if you can build and upgrade PC's yourself, you should stop and think about the new Quad Core processors, the Dual SLI configurations, AMD and ATi motherboard chipsets.......Vista is in it's nursery/kindergarden years....you wouldn't slander one of your kids if one was better at speaking than the other?

Give it time....however, people who don't like Vista either have to stay XP, or switch to MAC or Linux and the latter two for 90% of people out there, aren't viable yet..
 
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Aleman

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For people saying it's a downgrade... how so?

And for a broader question, what did you expect? It's an operating system. The majority of the "upgrades" are under the hood.
 
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I agree, Vista is a waste of money! I had Home Premium and i didn't like it. So I bought a MacBook Pro. And it rocks! Also Vista looks just like Mac OS X doesn't it?
 

Grym

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It's good but I can't see the need to update if I already got XP and Ubuntu on my PC. It's pointless at this moment.