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Hippo

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[QUOTE="KingJordan, post: 1628571] He's pretty damn good, but damn is he gettin overpaid.[/QUOTE]

That's an understatement lol.

Yeah, I'll give you that he's good, but he's replacing Grant Hill...who was pretty good too last season. How much better than Grant Hill is he...the answer...not much.

Magic got better, but still hanging around the middle of the East.
 

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[QUOTE="Hippo, post: 0]That's an understatement lol.

Yeah, I'll give you that he's good, but he's replacing Grant Hill...who was pretty good too last season. How much better than Grant Hill is he...the answer...not much.

Magic got better, but still hanging around the middle of the East.[/quote]


But he comes with 22 points per game and is 7 years younger than Hill. I like the move Orlando made getting him, I just think he's getting paid way too much.
 

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[QUOTE="KingJordan, post: 0]But he comes with 22 points per game and is 7 years younger than Hill. I like the move Orlando made getting him, I just think he's getting paid way too much.[/quote] Yeah the deal he signed is nuts. He isn't worth so much, but the Magic need all the help they can get to advance in the playoffs(if they make it).
 

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Yeah he isn't worth that much, but atleast he'll put up numbers, unlike some other guys who get payed and don't even play....I'm looking at you Adonle Foyle.

Lewis will add that outside threat that Magic Need, and a scorer. Howard is not a scorer, and he'll get that help from Lewis.
 

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[QUOTE="UndecideD, post: 0]man I swear if Howard would devolpe his offensive game and become a scorer, he'll be such a beast.[/quote]

Yeah, thats what really is keeping him from easily being a 20 point, 10, 11, or say 20 rebound guy. Than he'll really be a MONSTER!!!!
 

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[QUOTE="UndecideD, post: 0]I heard a report last night that derrick fisher is intrested in playing for the Knicks 0_o. let's see how that turns out.[/quote]


Really? Last I heard he was taking time off from basketball to focus on his daughter's cancer treatment.
 

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[QUOTE="UndecideD, post: 0]yup he is actually interested in playing for a couple of teams http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/grizzlies/article/0,1426,MCA_475_5615882,00.html
Grizzlies, lakers and Knicks are some of the 7.




GRANT HILL GOING TO THE PHOENIX SUNS* http://forums.floridatoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=41142&sid=e528a6ec839aefda3ff7cd74fc149dd7[/quote]


Really? Last I heard he was taking time off from basketball to focus on his daughter's cancer treatment.
He hasn't retired. He wants to be close find a place where he can play basketball and still get the best medical treatment for his daughter. Those cities are a few on his list that can give him both.

The problem with the basketball part is that he wants the full mid-level, which he won't get unless teams are desperate.

The Grant Hill thing.
Wonder if he'll be the next Jalen Rose on the team?
 

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[QUOTE="KingJordan, post: 0]Hill will probably get a paper cut and miss 5 months. Heh. So I doubt if he'll be much of a factor.[/QUOTE]

They aren't asking him to be the star of the team...but definitly a solid role player.
 

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In the latest phase of a weeks-long ordeal, Kobe Bryant appears to be turning back ever so slightly toward the Lakers.

It might be tantamount to the smallest sign of thawing in a glacier, but Bryant revealed a partly conciliatory side while talking to reporters toward the end of his week-long youth basketball camp at Loyola Marymount.

When given the chance, the nine-time All-Star did not reiterate his demand to be traded by the Lakers.

"Nah, you know what?" Bryant said Thursday. "What I said is what I said. Everybody knows that we need to make some adjustments and need to get better. That's not a shock, that's not a secret. We just have to see where that goes."

That he chose to use the word "we" instead of "they," or something worse, would indicate some sort of change-over in his opinion of the Lakers. In an entirely upbeat mood that differed from his ire in the weeks after the Lakers were eliminated in the playoffs by the Phoenix Suns, Bryant did not choose a small side room at Gersten Pavilion as a forum to further pressure the Lakers into meeting his trade wishes.

It's possible that will come later this month at the Team USA training camp in Las Vegas -- when Bryant is expected to speak publicly again -- but he said he hadn't contemplated his future with the Lakers, or perhaps his future without them, in a while.

"Honestly, you all might be disappointed about it or whatever, but I haven't even thought about it in a long, long time," Bryant said. "I kind of stepped away from all of that and just focused on Team USA and just getting better. I get up early in the morning, I train hard, three to five hours, and just get ready."
(That is the Kobe I know and love)
Bryant has made headlines consistently since publicly demanding a trade on May 30. The Lakers have no intention of trading Bryant, who has four years and $88.6 million remaining on his contract. He can void the contract in two years.

Bryant did reveal further details of his meeting two weeks ago with Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak at the team's practice facility in El Segundo. Bryant and Kupchak discussed the amateur video in which Bryant said the Lakers should trade 19-year-old center Andrew Bynum.

"That's a shame," Bryant said. "I went in just to tell [Kupchak], 'You know what, man? I'm sorry that thing came out like that. You never want that to happen.' I just felt like as a man, that was important to say that to him. I could have easily picked up the phone and called him, but that's not something that I wanted to do. I wanted to go down and see him face-to-face and tell him that face-to-face."


As designed by his publicists, Bryant answered very few questions about his situation with the Lakers -- only three, to be exact -- in a media briefing that was planned to be entirely about his camp, the Kobe Basketball Academy.

On that subject, Bryant spoke exuberantly about the 450 campers ages eight to 18. Some groups at the camp have learned facets of both the Princeton offense and the triangle offense in the span of a few days.

"I think kids can be pushed beyond what camps kind of have been demanding from them," Bryant said. "There's always been real serious basketball camps for players or kids that have the aspiration of playing in the NBA…but with these type of camps, it's normally not like that. They normally just throw the ball up and just let the kids go out there and play. You don't really learn much. That's why I wanted to do it. I believe kids can learn a great deal, even at seven, eight years old."
My annoyance about how Kobe handled his anger a couple of weeks ago has decreased after reading this. He should also apologize to Bynum for the video and to the fans of the organization. I don't mind you asking for a trade but do not insult your team mates. That is very low.
 

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Didnt see this on the update but the suns are signing hill to a contract for minimum dollar amount. He announced today that he will be coming to the suns but he isnt legally aloud to sign on till the 17th or something like that.

He is getting paid minimum so i would take it he will be a bench player to replace diaw on breaks. Or maybe a backup in case they trade thomas. Either way the trade rumors for marion and amare are completely gone here in AZ thank god.
 

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[QUOTE="soldier one, post: 0]He is getting paid minimum so i would take it he will be a bench player to replace diaw on breaks. Or maybe a backup in case they trade thomas. Either way the trade rumors for marion and amare are completely gone here in AZ thank god.[/QUOTE]

I still think someone big is on the move. Marion, Amare, Garnett, Kobe...someone.

I dunno, a couple weeks of continuous trade rumors and no one gets moved...how dull is that.
 

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[QUOTE="Hippo, post: 0]I still think someone big is on the move. Marion, Amare, Garnett, Kobe...someone.

I dunno, a couple weeks of continuous trade rumors and no one gets moved...how dull is that.[/quote]

Yeah, we get that every year. It builds, and builds than nothing happens. Rarely are real big move happens, but this year some big moves have happened.



[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Bulls have agreed to terms with restricted free agent forward Andres Nocioni[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
Got it.
 

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Well i look at it this way.

Kobe talk was just to gather attention for the lakers, thats all he is there for anyways to gain attention to the team. That and he is good but if he were not a ball hog he would be like any other play lol.

Marion came up because the suns WERE willing to trade him for garnett but they didnt want to give up garnett. Now its taking too long the suns have acquired several key players and are not interested in trading marion anymore. Garnett wont go anywhere now since they have no other key players to trade him now that marion is out of question.

Amare just like kobe happened for attention. It was just fans of another team that started up rumors about getting him because he is good, no way on earth are the suns giving him up.

If you ask me if anything big happens it wont be anything all the people have been speculating, probably someone from the spurs gets traded or something. I doubt garnett is going anywhere unless marion is included somewhere in the line.
 

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can't Kobe, Garnett, and Marion file for free agency next year...that might make things interesting.

but who am I kidding, all three are money grabbing whores, "winning a championship" lol...yeah right, more like, "oh, more money for my third Ferrari."
 

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[QUOTE="Hippo, post: 0]can't Kobe, Garnett, and Marion file for free agency next year...that might make things interesting.

but who am I kidding, all three are money grabbing whores, "winning a championship" lol...yeah right, more like, "oh, more money for my third Ferrari."[/quote]

Actually thats what the market values them as. If that type of cash was put infront of you, I would say give me a freakin pen NOW!!!

Garnett can file for free agency next year. Kobe in 2 years, and I'm not sure on Marion (probably next year also).

But here is the problem. They lose, not gain money. They already have huge contracts with their respective teams, and cutting your contract means, you lose all that money. The only way you could gain most of it back is if the team does a sign and trade, other than that you can only go for a Mid-Level or go to a team that is under the cap..say Charlotte.
 

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I cant wait till i have 3 ferarris lol, then again ill probably be plaaying in the nhl where money dont matter so it might take me half a season to get there. :lol:

Its funny the suns pay their bench players almost as much as starters.
 

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[QUOTE="soldier one, post: 0]I cant wait till i have 3 ferarris lol, then again ill probably be plaaying in the nhl where money dont matter so it might take me half a season to get there. :lol:

Its funny the suns pay their bench players almost as much as starters.[/quote]

Their bench players can be starters on other teams. Diaw, Barbosa, Now Hill, Banks, and the list goes on.
 

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[QUOTE="UnReaL, post: 0]Their bench players can be starters on other teams. Diaw, Barbosa, Now Hill, Banks, and the list goes on.[/QUOTE]
I don't think its physically possible to run 48 minutes like the Suns do.

You'd think no one could stay up with them...yet other teams have found ways to slow them down.
 

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[QUOTE="UndecideD, post: 0]I'm sure most of you know by now, Billups is resigning with the Pistons.[/QUOTE]

anyone else think the Pistons are getting way too old?