Ps3 80gb (cechl01) ylod?!

[FinalSynFrey]

I figured I'd post my issue with my PS3 here since the Playstation Forums is practically pointless.

As the what the title says, I have here a 80 GB PS3 Fat. Manufactured in November 2008. Right now, it seems like this PS3 is showing its death (YLOD). I recently opened up the System to change the Thermal Paste and cleaning out the Heatsink thinking this would solve the issue. IT did lower the amount of noise that the system made before I opened it.

On Cold Boot, I fire up my PS3. Works like Normal of course. I can play Music for 20 Minutes if so desire and it wouldn't YLOD or watch Anime in HD for an hour and still wouldn't YLOD. When I pop in to play 'GTA V', the game would load then as soon as it finishes loading, the PS3 immediately goes into a 'Yellow Light' followed by a 'Red Blinking Light'. I turn it on again and the thing still boots up. I launch the game the SECOND time, it does the same thing. On the THIRD attempt, the game will work perfectly fine before it shuts off in 2-3 hours. I turn it on again and It still works fine. I launch couple of my Demos (Project Diva and Minecraft) and played them for 30-60 minutes and it still works fine. What gives?

Just today, I was downloading a Final Fantasy XIII-2 Demo on PSN. I let the PS3 stay on for over 13 Hours and it has yet to give me a YLOD. As soon as I start the actual Gameplay in this demo, the PS3 goes into a 'Yellow Light' followed by a 'Blinking Red Light'.

I'm very confused right now with this PS3. Why is it I'm able to keep this thing turned on for hours and hours and it won't YLOD. But when I play games, it simply gives up.

Is it a problem with my POWER SUPPLY or the HARD DRIVE? If this was an issue with the CPU/GPU, wouldn't it already YLOD at Boot like many PS3's I've seen? I'm not ruling out a Blu-Ray lens failure because I just had it replaced 2 years ago. Can someone please help me out with this? I don't want to buy another PS3 since we already have a PS4 and on top of that, I'm waiting for my 2 Games to ship.

 

[Syphon_Filter]

What you did is useless and needed to be done after you re-ball the GPU and CPU. The solder balls under the GPU and CPU are melted and need to re-install the solder balls. Than you clean the heatsink and apply your new thermal paste and that will keep your PS3 running again like a new machine for 2 years and it will die again. Watch this video.[video=youtube_share;f3N3PEIYPXk]http://youtu.be/f3N3PEIYPXk[/video]

 

[FinalSynFrey]

[QUOTE="Syphon_Filter, post: 6275575]What you did is useless and needed to be done after you re-ball the GPU and CPU. The solder balls under the GPU and CPU are melted and need to re-install the solder balls. Than you clean the heatsink and apply your new thermal paste and that will keep your PS3 running again like a new machine for 2 years and it will die again. Watch this video.[/QUOTE]

I don't have the skills or complete precision to do a re-ball on the CPU/GPU let alone looking for someone that i can trust to fix this PS3, but how come only certain games give me a YLOD? Minecraft and Project Diva F (Demo) doesn't seem to cause any issues. It seems like 'less demanding' games won't shut off the PS3, while demanding games like GTA V and Final Fantasy XIII-2 (hell, even the demo managed to shut off the PS3) gives me a YLOD. And also, how come the PS3 won't shut off when I just watch HD movies? I can go 4 Hours straight and it won't shut off, but 1 hour into GTA V, the PS3 shuts off, but then still starts up normally.

I'm not the actual owner of this PS3, but my cousin has always put the PS3 in a well ventilated area. In the history of his ownership, he never bought games that pushes the CPU/GPU very hard like Uncharted 2/3 or GT5. He plays COD most of the time and sometimes Battlefield 3. That's why this PS3 never experienced a YLOD during its early years. It managed to avoid a full YLOD for 5 years until December of 2013.

 

[Syphon_Filter]

[QUOTE="FinalSynFrey, post: 6275585]I don't have the skills or complete precision to do a re-ball on the CPU/GPU let alone looking for someone that i can trust to fix this PS3, but how come only certain games give me a YLOD? Minecraft and Project Diva F (Demo) doesn't seem to cause any issues. It seems like 'less demanding' games won't shut off the PS3, while demanding games like GTA V and Final Fantasy XIII-2 (hell, even the demo managed to shut off the PS3) gives me a YLOD. And also, how come the PS3 won't shut off when I just watch HD movies? I can go 4 Hours straight and it won't shut off, but 1 hour into GTA V, the PS3 shuts off, but then still starts up normally.

I'm not the actual owner of this PS3, but my cousin has always put the PS3 in a well ventilated area. In the history of his ownership, he never bought games that pushes the CPU/GPU very hard like Uncharted 2/3 or GT5. He plays COD most of the time and sometimes Battlefield 3. That's why this PS3 never experienced a YLOD during its early years. It managed to avoid a full YLOD for 5 years until December of 2013.[/QUOTE]

This has happened to me. When I used to play some games that my PS3 didn't give me YLOD and some games they did. When the game will put heavy load on the GPU to access it, you will get the YLOD due to the heat and the solder balls are melted and thats why. Some games doesn't need to access the GPU which it doesn't put pressure on it and thats why you don't get the YLOD with some games.

 

[FinalSynFrey]

[QUOTE="Syphon_Filter, post: 6276066]This has happened to me. When I used to play some games that my PS3 didn't give me YLOD and some games they did. When the game will put heavy load on the GPU to access it, you will get the YLOD due to the heat and the solder balls are melted and thats why. Some games doesn't need to access the GPU which it doesn't put pressure on it and thats why you don't get the YLOD with some games.[/QUOTE]

But how come when I play GTA V, despite multiple attempts of turning on/off the PS3, it will continue to run for 2 hours before another shutdown? It also seems when I go under water in the game, the PS3 instantly turns off. Man, if this PS3 has finally kicked the bucket, I have to buy another PS3. Even if its refurbished Slim model or something, I'll just get one then clean out the old paste and apply a new one before that one decides to kill itself. I don't know if its Sony's fault or the Government's fault for allowing 'lead-free' solder on these PS3s, but if they were using 'lead solder' then these PS3s will continue to work to this day.

 

[rajanmax]

Many people dont understand having YLOD issue because of hardware problem not game issue.

 

[Syphon_Filter]

[QUOTE="FinalSynFrey, post: 6276109]But how come when I play GTA V, despite multiple attempts of turning on/off the PS3, it will continue to run for 2 hours before another shutdown? It also seems when I go under water in the game, the PS3 instantly turns off. Man, if this PS3 has finally kicked the bucket, I have to buy another PS3. Even if its refurbished Slim model or something, I'll just get one then clean out the old paste and apply a new one before that one decides to kill itself. I don't know if its Sony's fault or the Government's fault for allowing 'lead-free' solder on these PS3s, but if they were using 'lead solder' then these PS3s will continue to work to this day.[/QUOTE]
Well, I just told you and explained it to you about that. When there is a heavy load on the GPU from game to access the GPU data. You will PS3 will shutdown due to the heat and already the GPU is being disconnected from the motherboard as there is no connection and solder balls are melted. When there isn't heavy load or pressure on it, your ps3 will seems normal and so on.

 

[FinalSynFrey]

[QUOTE="Syphon_Filter, post: 6278056]Well, I just told you and explained it to you about that. When there is a heavy load on the GPU from game to access the GPU data. You will PS3 will shutdown due to the heat and already the GPU is being disconnected from the motherboard as there is no connection and solder balls are melted. When there isn't heavy load or pressure on it, your ps3 will seems normal and so on.[/QUOTE]

I just re-downloaded a PS2 game from PSN today and it still gives me a YLOD. I was lucky enough to jump into 1 Campaign of Black Ops 2 before I decided to fire up MP. After I completed 1 match, the game was about to load before it gave up. If the GPU was partially disconnected from the motherboard, wouldn't I be seeing artifacts or video-related problems with my PS3? Or, wouldn't it YLOD at start up like I said before.

I am already considering getting this PS3 reballed if a replacement Power Supply didn't fix the issue. Although, I'm still looking for a decent place here in Philippines to get it reballed for a good price. As long as the repair doesn't cost me over $130+ then I will get it reballed. If not, then I'll just get a refurbished PS3 Slim or Super Slim (even though I don't like the Design of the Super Slim).

Getting back on the Power Supply. The PS3 has a 12v rail just like many PC power supplies have. In order for a PS3 to power on successfully, this 12v needs to be present. Try removing the PSU from the 2 Prongs on the mobo and just connect the Main Power and the 4-Pin connector (mine is a APS-240). You will be presented with a YLOD as soon as you start it. My Theory is that, the PS3 resets itself because the PSU is unable to deliver the necessary power to keep the system stable under load. This is why I am able to turn it on successfully, but then shuts off when running a demanding game that heavily taxes the CPU/GPU. I'm also hearing Coil Whine when I start up the PS3. Not sure if I should be worried about that or not.

So yeah, my Theory could either be right or wrong. Sorry If I keep bringing up the same issue. It sucks to be dealing with these common problems on the PS3 and even the Xbox 360's infamous RROD. If only Sony made these machines more reliable, there wouldn't be much complaints about this.