Lol... how about I post this on Twitter and create a poll? 
Nah... I'm not that mean... tempting though hehe.
Nah... I'm not that mean... tempting though hehe.
In all seriousness,IF Ms will make their exclusive games design with the fast I/O in mind,excluding every hardware on Pc that doesnt have it.Only then i will stand corrected Lets see what will happen.In the end the games will do the talking.PS: Still waiting for the source about Ratchet,where did you saw that confirmed?
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The only difference in how information has been handled is that Sony is holding their cards closer to the chest and MS not so much. Other than that there has been misinformation and lies from both sides, mostly from the CEO's.
Halo Infinite wasn't even running on the XBox, it was running on a PC.
I think you don't realise how much of a cultural difference there is between japanese people and most people in the west. What we might think is an overreaction is pretty much normal to them. Hopefully we will see more hands on soon from different parts of the world.
Well, I guess subjectively it's just a matter of taste when it comes to which games you find more exciting. It's pretty natural that XBox gamers prefer what's on XBox and Playstation gamers prefer what's on Playstation. It would be quite stupid (imo) to not go with the platform that has most of the games you like. But sales numbers and awards don't lie. Other than Nintendo, Sony's first party games have been getting the most awards out of any other platform.
There where way more good/quality games than just GoW and TLoU during the whole PS4 generation. It's just a matter of personal taste. I don't like every single game exclusive to PS, but I can still recognize that the games I personally don't like is good/quality games.
Yes, there might be good things to come for the XBox users, but right now that's a big unknown. None of us really know what those 23 studios will produce. Are we going to see high quality AAA games or are they going to go for just mostly quantity and put everything on gamepass? I'm not saying that the XBox plaform won't have any good games, I'm just saying that MS has alot to live up to if they are going to compete with Sony (and Nintendo).
Halo Infinite wasn't even running on the XBox, it was running on a PC.
I think you don't realise how much of a cultural difference there is between japanese people and most people in the west. What we might think is an overreaction is pretty much normal to them. Hopefully we will see more hands on soon from different parts of the world.
Well, I guess subjectively it's just a matter of taste when it comes to which games you find more exciting. It's pretty natural that XBox gamers prefer what's on XBox and Playstation gamers prefer what's on Playstation. It would be quite stupid (imo) to not go with the platform that has most of the games you like. But sales numbers and awards don't lie. Other than Nintendo, Sony's first party games have been getting the most awards out of any other platform.
There where way more good/quality games than just GoW and TLoU during the whole PS4 generation. It's just a matter of personal taste. I don't like every single game exclusive to PS, but I can still recognize that the games I personally don't like is good/quality games.
Yes, there might be good things to come for the XBox users, but right now that's a big unknown. None of us really know what those 23 studios will produce. Are we going to see high quality AAA games or are they going to go for just mostly quantity and put everything on gamepass? I'm not saying that the XBox plaform won't have any good games, I'm just saying that MS has alot to live up to if they are going to compete with Sony (and Nintendo).
Consoles launch in 4 weeks. It's way too late for keeping the cards close. If Sony decided to go that way is because they had the lesser hand in everything aside from launch window games in my opinion.
You think it was any different for Sony? They also showed everything on a PC. The PS5 wasn't even ready back then and for the looks of it, Series X were manufactured before PS5s.
I'm aware. But I wasn't referring to just that, but the combination of controlled environment, lack of freedom (again, predefined games, no UI, no boot, no touching...) plus overreacting. It looked way too scripted hence the negative reactions everywhere. They could've had the nuts to do the same outside Japan.
I agree but you can't compare current gen with next gen. Xbox has tripled its developing power since then and received massive support from MSFT, unlike before. This will be an entirely new and different generation.
That's true. They have successfully built strong loyalty on their current fanbase. Heck... I abandoned the Xbox after the Xbox One fiasco and I'm back here... 7 years later. I don't only trust Microsoft's new strategy... I also have faith in the studios involved and have high expectations on the new ones.
But that's not it. Unlike many might still think, I do believe this generation will be driven by value in addition to quality games. Game Pass is becoming huge and xCloud is a very aggressive bet. A lot of people will decide to buy a console this generation based on their pockets. If you can live without PS5 launch titles then Series X is absolutely the way to go because of Game Pass and consumer friendly policies, and many will chose to go that way. Only the hardcores have brand loyalty that might prevent to do so but that's a minority. While one is rising prices to USD70 - 80 Euro, the other keeps offering more value at lower prices. This will be a whole new story my friend. I'm not saying Microsoft will "win"... even the concept of "winning" has already changed.
You think it was any different for Sony? They also showed everything on a PC. The PS5 wasn't even ready back then and for the looks of it, Series X were manufactured before PS5s.
I'm aware. But I wasn't referring to just that, but the combination of controlled environment, lack of freedom (again, predefined games, no UI, no boot, no touching...) plus overreacting. It looked way too scripted hence the negative reactions everywhere. They could've had the nuts to do the same outside Japan.
I agree but you can't compare current gen with next gen. Xbox has tripled its developing power since then and received massive support from MSFT, unlike before. This will be an entirely new and different generation.
That's true. They have successfully built strong loyalty on their current fanbase. Heck... I abandoned the Xbox after the Xbox One fiasco and I'm back here... 7 years later. I don't only trust Microsoft's new strategy... I also have faith in the studios involved and have high expectations on the new ones.
But that's not it. Unlike many might still think, I do believe this generation will be driven by value in addition to quality games. Game Pass is becoming huge and xCloud is a very aggressive bet. A lot of people will decide to buy a console this generation based on their pockets. If you can live without PS5 launch titles then Series X is absolutely the way to go because of Game Pass and consumer friendly policies, and many will chose to go that way. Only the hardcores have brand loyalty that might prevent to do so but that's a minority. While one is rising prices to USD70 - 80 Euro, the other keeps offering more value at lower prices. This will be a whole new story my friend. I'm not saying Microsoft will "win"... even the concept of "winning" has already changed.
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Yeah, that we can agree on. It's definitely time for Sony to show their cards. They showed one more "card" today for example, they did the teardown. Lets just hope they start showing more stuff more frequently now. I don't agree with you that they have the lesser hand, I just think they have a different strategy than MS.
Actually, almost everything Sony has shown in the events said it was captured on a PS5. I kind of have to believe that until there's info. saying that it was not. Playing a video file on a PC isn't the same as running the game on a PC. Both of them probably played a video file on a PC, but MS actually said that Halo and other games was captured on a PC with similar specs.
MS might have trippled their development power, but we still don't know what most of those studios will bring to the table. Hopefully they'll bring something good to compete with, otherwise it might be the same as current gen, Sony pretty much didn't have any competition from MS. I think it would be good for both companies if it was a bit tighter next gen, to keep everyone on their toes.
We will just have to wait and see if they manage to bring more quality games and value to their (MS) services that can only be experienced on their platforms (XBox and PC). So far that doesn't seem to have been their main priority. It seems like they mainly want to get their services on as many devices (Xbox, PC, mobile etc) as possible. I'm not saying that it's bad from a business perspective, but rather that it seems like they don't focus on directly competing with Sony in the console market.
I don't know if I agree that MS is that much more consumer friendly than Sony, not overall at least. They both have things about them that is consumer friendly and anti-consumer. I think it's just about what model you prefer, what is more valuable to you. I personally prefer to know that I'm getting experiences (games) that are worth the price I'm paying. And that doesn't apply to just Sony.
Actually, almost everything Sony has shown in the events said it was captured on a PS5. I kind of have to believe that until there's info. saying that it was not. Playing a video file on a PC isn't the same as running the game on a PC. Both of them probably played a video file on a PC, but MS actually said that Halo and other games was captured on a PC with similar specs.
MS might have trippled their development power, but we still don't know what most of those studios will bring to the table. Hopefully they'll bring something good to compete with, otherwise it might be the same as current gen, Sony pretty much didn't have any competition from MS. I think it would be good for both companies if it was a bit tighter next gen, to keep everyone on their toes.
We will just have to wait and see if they manage to bring more quality games and value to their (MS) services that can only be experienced on their platforms (XBox and PC). So far that doesn't seem to have been their main priority. It seems like they mainly want to get their services on as many devices (Xbox, PC, mobile etc) as possible. I'm not saying that it's bad from a business perspective, but rather that it seems like they don't focus on directly competing with Sony in the console market.
I don't know if I agree that MS is that much more consumer friendly than Sony, not overall at least. They both have things about them that is consumer friendly and anti-consumer. I think it's just about what model you prefer, what is more valuable to you. I personally prefer to know that I'm getting experiences (games) that are worth the price I'm paying. And that doesn't apply to just Sony.
I'd say... wait and see. I've seen enough videos saying "Running on PS4 Pro"... (Ghost of Tsushima, TLOU2 i.e.) and then the down to earth results... something to be very cautious about at very least.
Agreed. Microsoft screwed up this generation. It took Phil Spencer a Nadella many years to build the foundations for the next generation. New studios have been acquired from 2018 and above, so yeah... it will take time until that gargantuan machinery starts meshing. Should be non stop from then and beyond though.
As a RPG fan (among others) with 2 kids (and 2 Xboxes + 2 PlayStation btw), I need to say that Game Pass has no rival. I have some friends that are PS fans. They say they can't detach from their preferred franchises (God of War being the biggest) and I can absolutely understand that. They're considering buying both consoles though... given current times, GP value is unmatchable, and people should have a bit more time to spare in front of the TV these times. PS big guns aren't out until late 2021 early 2022 and GP can give you a lot in the meantime.
Agreed. Microsoft screwed up this generation. It took Phil Spencer a Nadella many years to build the foundations for the next generation. New studios have been acquired from 2018 and above, so yeah... it will take time until that gargantuan machinery starts meshing. Should be non stop from then and beyond though.
As a RPG fan (among others) with 2 kids (and 2 Xboxes + 2 PlayStation btw), I need to say that Game Pass has no rival. I have some friends that are PS fans. They say they can't detach from their preferred franchises (God of War being the biggest) and I can absolutely understand that. They're considering buying both consoles though... given current times, GP value is unmatchable, and people should have a bit more time to spare in front of the TV these times. PS big guns aren't out until late 2021 early 2022 and GP can give you a lot in the meantime.
Well, I don't really know if Ghost of Tsushima was anything else than a slight downgrade. I haven't seen anywhere that they said it was confirmed to be running on a PC. Same goes for TLoU2. Maybe I've missed something.
Yeah, I agree. Gamepass seems like a better service overall, or at least more popular than PS Now. For someone that doesn't have the luxury to pick between a few titles here and there a service like gamepass might be a better solution. Personally I don't need to buy both consoles since I have a gaming PC, lucky for me everything available on XBox is also available on PC (day one) if I want it. To be fair though, PS users have PS+ (PS+ Collection on PS5), PS Now and B.C. with PS4 to keep them busy if there's not that many big games at the moment.
Yeah, I agree. Gamepass seems like a better service overall, or at least more popular than PS Now. For someone that doesn't have the luxury to pick between a few titles here and there a service like gamepass might be a better solution. Personally I don't need to buy both consoles since I have a gaming PC, lucky for me everything available on XBox is also available on PC (day one) if I want it. To be fair though, PS users have PS+ (PS+ Collection on PS5), PS Now and B.C. with PS4 to keep them busy if there's not that many big games at the moment.
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