Sony: Vita Sells 1.2 Million Worldwide

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I want to See Region specific numbers and comparisons to 3ds Launch

I don't know if 1.2 is good. It comes out to each territory (NTSC-U/PAL)getting 300k and change sales. Its solid, but is it great? Who knows..I want to see those numbers of the 3ds to compare lol.
 

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[QUOTE="Two4DaMoney, post: 5780119]I still haven't seen where that ad money has went other than taco bell.

I want a vita but I'm definitely not paying more for it than I paid for my ps3 but check this...a ps3 + psvita uncharted bundle(all the uncharted games) for $400 next year. Sony needs to start thinking outside the box. Give a little, make a lot back from software sales and those fucked up memory card prices.[/QUOTE]

i saw a vita commercial between the Walking Dead and during WWE.
 
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[QUOTE="floetry, post: 5780212]I want to See Region specific numbers and comparisons to 3ds Launch

I don't know if 1.2 is good. It comes out to each territory (NTSC-U/PAL)getting 300k and change sales. Its solid, but is it great? Who knows..I want to see those numbers of the 3ds to compare lol.[/QUOTE]

PS Vita UK launch sales 'around one quarter' of PSP debut..
Sales of Sony's PS Vita console got off to a "disappointing" start in the UK, it has been confirmed.

Week one Chart-Track figures reveal that Sony's new handheld device sold "around one quarter" of the number of the 185,000 PSP units shifted in the UK during its first week on sale back in September 2005.

Although exact data has not been publicly announced by either Chart-Track or Sony, industry sources have confirmed that the figure is "just over half" of the 89,000 sold by the Nintendo 3DS in its first week almost a year ago.
http://www.pocketgamer.biz/r/PG.Biz/PlayStation+Vita/news.asp?c=38346
 
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[QUOTE="floetry, post: 5780212]I want to See Region specific numbers and comparisons to 3ds Launch

I don't know if 1.2 is good. It comes out to each territory (NTSC-U/PAL)getting 300k and change sales. Its solid, but is it great? Who knows..I want to see those numbers of the 3ds to compare lol.[/QUOTE]

3DS did 398,000 in its first 6 days in the USA. The software lineup at launch was poor too.

Like I said earlier, about 600,000 of those Vita sales are split between USA and UK.
 

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[QUOTE="Cuguy, post: 5780094]And the sales are backing that observation up.

I really think sales would be tons higher at 199.99 and 249.99.. i know it isn't the biggest difference in price, but it is all perception in advertising. 299 sounds like a lot more than 249[/QUOTE]

Obviously they would..imagine if it was $100...I am sure Sony has a long term plan for this device and we are only into week 1 and people are second guessing. Sony was able to sell 1.2 million already. They will sell it at $199 and $249...just not right now. They are patient unlike those that want it for whatever price they want it at. 1.2 million people wanted it at $249 and $299 so why not sell it at that price? They would have lost $60 million dollars in just pure profit alone if they would have launched it less. They are focused on making profitable items right now and not interested on losing money under there current fiscal constraints because of the financial problems the company is under. Sure they could price the PS3 at $199 right now and certainly it will get there soon but they aren't going to miss out on selling to those that would gladly pay $249 for it. Point is Sony has plenty of time to sell it to everyone. They don't have to sell 100 million units (nor could they produce enough to keep up) at $100 but over the products lifecycle they probably will sell 100 million at different price points all along the way and banking as much money as they can. They know gamers will buy it when they can afford it...but they also know they have enough gamers willing to pay what it is now. Once they see they have exhausted the amount of gamers willing to buy it at $249 they will bring the price down. With the games coming out for it..I doubt it will come down in the US/EU before christmas..in Japan it will because they stiffer competition and fewer games to compete with Nintendo.
 

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[QUOTE="davin_g, post: 5780272]Obviously they would..imagine if it was $100...I am sure Sony has a long term plan for this device and we are only into week 1 and people are second guessing. Sony was able to sell 1.2 million already. They will sell it at $199 and $249...just not right now. They are patient unlike those that want it for whatever price they want it at. 1.2 million people wanted it at $249 and $299 so why not sell it at that price? They would have lost $60 million dollars in just pure profit alone if they would have launched it less. They are focused on making profitable items right now and not interested on losing money under there current fiscal constraints because of the financial problems the company is under. Sure they could price the PS3 at $199 right now and certainly it will get there soon but they aren't going to miss out on selling to those that would gladly pay $249 for it. Point is Sony has plenty of time to sell it to everyone. They don't have to sell 100 million units (nor could they produce enough to keep up) at $100 but over the products lifecycle they probably will sell 100 million at different price points all along the way and banking as much money as they can. They know gamers will buy it when they can afford it...but they also know they have enough gamers willing to pay what it is now. Once they see they have exhausted the amount of gamers willing to buy it at $249 they will bring the price down. With the games coming out for it..I doubt it will come down in the US/EU before christmas..in Japan it will because they stiffer competition and fewer games to compete with Nintendo.[/QUOTE] +rep
 
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[QUOTE="dc89, post: 5780254]Like I said earlier, about 600,000 of those Vita sales are split between USA and UK.[/QUOTE]

Ah, I didn't know that.
 

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[QUOTE="ATHORNFAM1, post: 5780323]Vgchartz said that the system launched with 1.4 million units[/QUOTE]

VGchartz is shit. It's a simple algorithm that makes those numbers grow. None of those numbers in their site are real.
 

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[QUOTE="davin_g, post: 5780272]Obviously they would..imagine if it was $100...I am sure Sony has a long term plan for this device and we are only into week 1 and people are second guessing. Sony was able to sell 1.2 million already. They will sell it at $199 and $249...just not right now. They are patient unlike those that want it for whatever price they want it at. 1.2 million people wanted it at $249 and $299 so why not sell it at that price? They would have lost $60 million dollars in just pure profit alone if they would have launched it less. They are focused on making profitable items right now and not interested on losing money under there current fiscal constraints because of the financial problems the company is under. Sure they could price the PS3 at $199 right now and certainly it will get there soon but they aren't going to miss out on selling to those that would gladly pay $249 for it. Point is Sony has plenty of time to sell it to everyone. They don't have to sell 100 million units (nor could they produce enough to keep up) at $100 but over the products lifecycle they probably will sell 100 million at different price points all along the way and banking as much money as they can. They know gamers will buy it when they can afford it...but they also know they have enough gamers willing to pay what it is now. Once they see they have exhausted the amount of gamers willing to buy it at $249 they will bring the price down. With the games coming out for it..I doubt it will come down in the US/EU before christmas..in Japan it will because they stiffer competition and fewer games to compete with Nintendo.[/QUOTE]


Here's the deal... I can be worried about a handheld with so much power that sells slightly over half of what a much lesser power handheld with a worse lineup of games does in the same time period. I want one of these, but at 249 and lackluster debut in the US and UK, it makes me concerned if my 249 investment would be worth it in the long run. I am not made of money and want to make sure things I buy will be around. It hasn't failed me in the past... I really wanted a PSPGo... look where that ended up. I was very happy I waited to see where that ended up.

You are right though, we could see a different sales pattern than Japan, but then again, we couldn't sell more than Japan, a country with 1/3rd of the population and a more western lineup of games to appeal to us.

A price drop will be imminent if they do not see solid sales. That is all I am saying here.
 

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[QUOTE="Cuguy, post: 5779897]yeah.. as of Jan, Eurogamer is saying the 3DS has sold 6.7 Million world wide, with over 4 Million in the US alone. Spurred mostly by the price cut.[/QUOTE]

It's quite a bit more than that. Earlier in January both NoA and Nintendo of Japan reported that the 3DS had sold over 4 million in those respective regions. Since then, at least in Japan, we know sales are now over 5 million. Not sure if we got any sales data from Europe and other territories but in Nintendo's last earnings report (according to NeoGAF) Nintendo reported having over 15 million 3DS units sold.

Not sure where Eurogamer is getting their figures but they're off the mark especially if they think the US figures are the largest of the three regions making up that figure. As of Jan., just Japan and the US alone is larger than that 6.7M figure.
 

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[QUOTE="Ghost-Rhayne, post: 5780020]I think there are shitloads of Vita owners-to be. People holding off for financial reasons or for more software. [/QUOTE]

That'd be me. The only reason I haven't bought one yet is money. If it had the capability of playing all ps3 games through remote play, I don't think I could resist. So I'll likely hold out for that, a price drop, or a new unit, whichever comes first
 

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If they don't want a steep decline, better call your boy hideo and find out whats going on with that metel gear hd collection
 

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As someone who just bought it this morning, I have to agree with what daving_g said. I think there are plenty of people who want a Vita, just not at its current price point. I was one of them. Surfing Amazon this morning, I found an independent seller with 500+ positive feedback selling one at 200. At 250 this thing was not worth it. At 200 it was a sweet spot, and I didn't hesitate. Sony will milk this 250-300 dollar model as long as they can, just as they did the PS3 during its first year, before they finally cut its costs. When that happens, and when more of their first party (and hopefully third party) titles drop, I believe Vita will in time turn in a profit.

Will it defeat 3DS? Nah, probably not. Nintendo just keeps growing, and Wii U looks like it's going to dominate the world all over again. But will the Vita turn out all right in the long run? I think (I hope) so. However, all current signs show that future being one blocked by a very tough road; hopefully Sony has the zeal to tackle it.
 

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I fully understand your worries..I just think Sony has a much smaller base to sell to than Nintendo. In america nintendo sales games to everyone 18 and under. Vita is marketed at gamers like 13 and up. Not that there isn't spill over for each but lets be real. I really don't think Sony is trying to outsell Nintendo on this front...would they like to SURE! Remember this is a high tech device capable of playing HARDCORE games and providing lots of functionality. The 3DS isn't. It is being marketed as such and I have no doubt Sony feels that they will charge a premium right now to milk as much as they can. I do agree a $199 price is a sweet spot and they will sell tons at that price..and no doubt will leave it there for a long long time...even when costs are well below that. PSP was outsold by double by all of nintendos handhelds and yet Sony said it was a success. Point is I think Sony measures success in many different ways...while all of us worry about selling THE MOST they measure it differently. Sometimes the most is best. Sometimes less but profitable is better. Sometimes with the PS3 even selling the least and at a loss is successful if they establish a new media medium like blu-ray and pushing HD adoption of tvs and 3d and all the money they recouped with that.

I definately think the price will come down but I am not at all worried that they are hurting themselves. This device will have a long lifespan with little tweeks a long the way like the last PSP had but I think this one with the ease of porting games over from the PS3 and duel analog sticks I think will have LOTS more games to support it and thus spur more sales for it. The launch and lineup to come alone I think speaks to that. Sure sales are a little weaker than I thought too...I think the miss calculation of the 3G is the bigger cause for that then anything. 4G is already here and the talk...3G is already outdated and people don't like being tied to AT&T....especially parents that are uneasy of giving one to a child who could run up their bills. That alone with the contract I think scares a lot of parents. As the price comes down and more information is made to them and hopefully a 4G without the strict contracts I think sales will pick up....oh and yes $199 is the sweat spot you are right. And the important thing is...Sony is making a profit off every one they sell...so they can bring the price down when they think is right....not wait till it is profitable to do so. That is big...they can do it as they choose...not limited by cost restrictions...that I think is big for them. They have a lot of flexibility with this device.
 
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[QUOTE="Cuguy, post: 5780368]Here's the deal... I can be worried about a handheld with so much power that sells slightly over half of what a much lesser power handheld with a worse lineup of games does in the same time period. I want one of these, but at 249 and lackluster debut in the US and UK, it makes me concerned if my 249 investment would be worth it in the long run. I am not made of money and want to make sure things I buy will be around. It hasn't failed me in the past... I really wanted a PSPGo... look where that ended up. I was very happy I waited to see where that ended up. You are right though, we could see a different sales pattern than Japan, but then again, we couldn't sell more than Japan, a country with 1/3rd of the population and a more western lineup of games to appeal to us. A price drop will be imminent if they do not see solid sales. That is all I am saying here.[/QUOTE] Using PSP GO as an example isnt really fair since it wasnt really a new platform but instead it was another version of an existing one. In fact an existing one that actually did eventually become successful after a rough start. And PSP GO didnt add any new features that you couldn't already do with your PSP. Plus it was DD only.
 
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[QUOTE="davin_g, post: 5780527]I fully understand your worries..I just think Sony has a much smaller base to sell to than Nintendo. In america nintendo sales games to everyone 18 and under. Vita is marketed at gamers like 13 and up. Not that there isn't spill over for each but lets be real. I really don't think Sony is trying to outsell Nintendo on this front...would they like to SURE! Remember this is a high tech device capable of playing HARDCORE games and providing lots of functionality. The 3DS isn't. It is being marketed as such and I have no doubt Sony feels that they will charge a premium right now to milk as much as they can. I do agree a $199 price is a sweet spot and they will sell tons at that price..and no doubt will leave it there for a long long time...even when costs are well below that. PSP was outsold by double by all of nintendos handhelds and yet Sony said it was a success. Point is I think Sony measures success in many different ways...while all of us worry about selling THE MOST they measure it differently. Sometimes the most is best. Sometimes less but profitable is better. Sometimes with the PS3 even selling the least and at a loss is successful if they establish a new media medium like blu-ray and pushing HD adoption of tvs and 3d and all the money they recouped with that. I definately think the price will come down but I am not at all worried that they are hurting themselves. This device will have a long lifespan with little tweeks a long the way like the last PSP had but I think this one with the ease of porting games over from the PS3 and duel analog sticks I think will have LOTS more games to support it and thus spur more sales for it. The launch and lineup to come alone I think speaks to that. Sure sales are a little weaker than I thought too...I think the miss calculation of the 3G is the bigger cause for that then anything. 4G is already here and the talk...3G is already outdated and people don't like being tied to AT&T....especially parents that are uneasy of giving one to a child who could run up their bills. That alone with the contract I think scares a lot of parents. As the price comes down and more information is made to them and hopefully a 4G without the strict contracts I think sales will pick up....oh and yes $199 is the sweat spot you are right. And the important thing is...Sony is making a profit off every one they sell...so they can bring the price down when they think is right....not wait till it is profitable to do so. That is big...they can do it as they choose...not limited by cost restrictions...that I think is big for them. They have a lot of flexibility with this device.[/QUOTE] Well said. Wish I could rep you twice.
 
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[QUOTE="radgamer420, post: 5780535]Using PSP GO as an example isnt really fair since it wasnt really a new platform but instead it was another version of an existing one. In fact an existing one that actually did eventually become successful after a rough start. And PSP GO didnt add any new features that you couldn't already do with your PSP. Plus it was DD only.[/QUOTE]


It counts. If you want to get down to semantics, Vita IS a PSP.

Regardless, the Go was a new iteration of the same tech, yes, but still a new product launch. Doesn't matter that is wasn't a new set of hardware completely.

I will just get out of this thread. It sucks because I made simple observations and posted some opinions and get attacked by people like it is some sort of heresy to think the handheld could flop.

Adios - back to moderating
 
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[QUOTE="Cuguy, post: 5780539]It counts. If you want to get down to semantics, Vita IS a PSP. Regardless, the Go was a new iteration of the same tech, yes, but still a new product launch. Doesn't matter that is wasn't a new set of hardware completely. I will just get out of this thread. It sucks because I made simple observations and posted some opinions and get attacked by people like it is some sort of heresy to think the handheld could flop. Adios - back to moderating[/QUOTE] You can play semantics all you want but it doesn't change the fact that the PSP ended up being successful and the GO was just a stripped down variation of that same PSP except that it was DD only with no UMD drive to play retail games and no new features. PSP itself was a success with over 61 million sold. So yes it does matter that it wasnt a completely different platform.
 
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Sony have said that the Vita is a 5-10 year product and that to them, success will be judged in the sales in 2 or 3 years time. People are looking at this in a very short sighted manner. Sony have a long term plan for Vita, not only in terms of constant core games, but also in the functionality of Vita which they have also stated will be a vastly different console in this regard in a few years time thanks to firmware updates.

In this video Koller talks about how Sony expect the same trend of the PS2, PS3, and PSP to apply to Vita, in that the early adopters will be a very narrow demographic (mid 20's core gaming male) which "expands rapidly" (1:25). At the end he talks about how they have functionality planned that will be implemented down the line which will add new features.

People can doom and gloom all they want about the 1.2million figure, but the way these people look at it and the way Sony are approaching it and see it are totally different. Sony have always had along term plan strategy. In 3 years when the Vita is down to €200, has SHITLOADS of our favorite IPs and new added functions and abilities...then we will see if it is doom and gloom for the Vita.
 
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[QUOTE="Cuguy, post: 5780539]It counts. If you want to get down to semantics, Vita IS a PSP.

Regardless, the Go was a new iteration of the same tech, yes, but still a new product launch. Doesn't matter that is wasn't a new set of hardware completely.

I will just get out of this thread. It sucks because I made simple observations and posted some opinions and get attacked by people like it is some sort of heresy to think the handheld could flop.

Adios - back to moderating[/QUOTE]

I am sorry..I hope I didn't come off as attacking or thinking your points were heresy. I just disagreed about the viability of this product and while I too thought we would see higher sales I don't think it is any reason at all to be alarmed by what they have done so far. To me the 3DS and Vita are so vastly different while both being handehelds that sometimes comparing is very difficult. The 3ds had terrible sales (others felt) and had to lower the price because they worried if they didn't build enough steam and support when the Vita launched it might suffer horribly and we all know from Gameboy to 3DS that handhelds are Nintendos bread and butter. Nintendo has only two real options to make 3ds more successful and stimulate sales. Price cuts and more appealing games. They got both. Vita however is totally different in my eyes and thus why I don't think it will fail...it has more options available and can handle launching at this higher price point and have a slow launch and still succeed. Vita can spur sales by price drop, more games (especially in japan), update features, tie in to the PS3 with crossgaming, a whole host of 1st party developers, and certainly can broaden its appeal across age groups and demographics with more support from indie developers, flexible download services, online support, psn, movies, i mean sooo many other things that as time goes on and these features get fleshed out will give the device many many ways to appeal to gamers beyond just cutting prices and releasing more games. Those are always the most obvious but this device is so versitle and has so much power and yet Sony being the hardware giant can and will always be able to slimline it, make it cheaper and be more flexible with price (if they choose) than nintendo. I think this device will be ok..despite how disappointed I may be over the launch sales...and I think Sony realizes that too and know they have plenty of options to be confident of the success of the device.
 

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In this video[/URL] Koller talks about how Sony expect the same trend of the PS2, PS3, and PSP to apply to Vita, in that the early adopters will be a very narrow demographic (mid 20's core gaming male) which "expands rapidly" (1:25). At the end he talks about how they have functionality planned that will be implemented down the line which will add new features.

People can doom and gloom all they want about the 1.2million figure, but the way these people look at it and the way Sony are approaching it and see it are totally different. Sony have always had along term plan strategy. In 3 years when the Vita is down to €200, has SHITLOADS of our favorite IPs and new added functions and abilities...then we will see if it is doom and gloom for the Vita.
Couldn't agree more. Wish I could rep you.
 

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In this video[/URL] Koller talks about how Sony expect the same trend of the PS2, PS3, and PSP to apply to Vita, in that the early adopters will be a very narrow demographic (mid 20's core gaming male) which "expands rapidly" (1:25). At the end he talks about how they have functionality planned that will be implemented down the line which will add new features. People can doom and gloom all they want about the 1.2million figure, but the way these people look at it and the way Sony are approaching it and see it are totally different. Sony have always had along term plan strategy. In 3 years when the Vita is down to €200, has SHITLOADS of our favorite IPs and new added functions and abilities...then we will see if it is doom and gloom for the Vita.
Well said. And that video is a great interview that really shows Sony's perspective on their platforms. +rep
 

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This is a good start for the Vita no matter what anyone expected out of it. 1.2 million sales worldwide is a foot in the door for Sony with the PS Vita. Come 2-3 years time we'll be able to judge if the Vita was a success or not. My money is on Sony though. They know what gamers want and they deliver every time.
 

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[QUOTE="TDbank24, post: 5780579]This is a good start for the Vita no matter what anyone expected out of it. 1.2 million sales worldwide is a foot in the door for Sony with the PS Vita. Come 2-3 years time we'll be able to judge if the Vita was a success or not. My money is on Sony though. They know what gamers want and they deliver every time.[/QUOTE]

This.