Speeding up slow PSN downloads (video shows the difference)

[Rekmon]

[QUOTE="silentmemory, post: 0]Port forwarding is not needed within a local network, unless perhaps you're using a bridge. Your PS3 being in the DMZ should be irrelevent if it's set to use the proxy, but your router will need to forward 8118 to your PC if it doesn't have UPnP enabled. That is my understanding, I'm surprised it's worked for as many people as it has.[/quote]
@ the bolded: that's my understanding as well. But why would your router have to forward port 8118 to the pc if it's the ps3 and PC connecting inside the local network? Unless you're thinking that the WAN side server is replying back across the same port back to the PC (I was thinking the proxy would output all requests on port 80 but I'm no networking genius)

And yes I just double checked, I have UPnP off in my router and my ps3 right now as well as no port forwarding of port 8118 anywhere.

[QUOTE="Lionel Hutz, post: 0]This is just so awesome.

Above, I reported a two-fold speed increase on my wired 60GB PS3. Well, I just applied the settings to my wireless 40GB PS3, and I saw a speed increase between 5 and 6 times! I can finally use the PSN video service on that PS3 .[/quote]

Awesome, that was a major complaint of my wifes was the movies took too long to download (which was why in the video you see me renting corpse bride as a tester :mrgreen

 

[VTEGPT]

did not help at all

 

[Rekmon]

[QUOTE="VTEGPT, post: 0]did not help at all[/quote]

What kind of download speeds are you getting without the proxy? This only seems to work if there is a sizable difference between your ps3's download speed and your pc's download speed.

Chances are either something in your setup (firewall, etc) are screwing it up... or you're already downloading from the PSN as fast as you can without it :-D

 

[Cooke_E_G]

I might give this a try. I have a 1mb connection, will it be worth it?

 

[karbineftw]

[QUOTE="Cooke_E_G, post: 0]I might give this a try. I have a 1mb connection, will it be worth it?[/quote]

Not really. Why you only have 1mb? Thats like the opposite to what I thought all you americans had! THought you all have like 10mb connections? huh

 

[Rekmon]

[QUOTE="karbineftw, post: 0]Not really. Why you only have 1mb? Thats like the opposite to what I thought all you americans had! THought you all have like 10mb connections? huh[/quote]
Maybe he meant 1mB connection (10mb). It's a common mistake people make when they type it out.

 

[silentmemory]

[QUOTE="Rekmon, post: 0]why would your router have to forward port 8118 to the pc if it's the ps3 and PC connecting inside the local network? Unless you're thinking that the WAN side server is replying back across the same port back to the PC (I was thinking the proxy would output all requests on port 80 but I'm no networking genius)[/quote]
I thought that too, but the Privoxy FAQ seems to state it doesn't funnel everything through port 80: http://www.privoxy.org/faq/configuration.html#PORT-80

And yes I just double checked, I have UPnP off in my router and my ps3 right now as well as no port forwarding of port 8118 anywhere.

Well then I'm confused, I have no idea how this solution is working unless everything is indeed being sent over 80

 

[jonathanm1978]

port 80, or 8118? or port 8118 traffic is forwarded to port 80? I dont get it...

 

[silentmemory]

[QUOTE="jonathanm1978, post: 0]port 80, or 8118? or port 8118 traffic is forwarded to port 80? I dont get it...[/quote]

Neither do I (we?). Port 80 is a hole in your router's NAT firewall open to http traffic by default. Port 8118 will be closed by default, if you wanted to connect to the internet through it you'd have to forward its traffic to the local IP address of the PC running the proxy server. That you don't suggests the proxy is sending internet traffic through port 80 and PS3 traffic through port 8118, no forwarding required. No big deal, I just thought that conflicted with what the FAQ was saying, apologies for having muddied the water.

 

[A-SIN]

My PSN downloads run amazingly fast, like 2mbps fast! But COD4 and COD5 lag (my guy teleports and freezes ). Will doing this solve the problem?

I have already tried the following:

- using wired and wireless connections
- Port forwarding all PSN ports to my PS3 static IP
- Putting PS3 static IP into DMZ option on router
- resetting the router and modem

all have been ineffective. I have a 2mb connection! and i get terrible lag!!

 

[SillyHatMafia]

This may be helpful for those who dont wanna use a proxy and set up a static IP.
I have a linksys router. (WRT54G) I recommend most people update their router to the newest firmware. My router had an issue with UPNP which is important for PSN. The new router firmware fixes that UPNP glitch. Now my connection is great, i was able to dwonload the killzone 2 demo in 25 minutes or so

a-sin: I think COD just had crappy servers. I played COD4 on PS3 AND 360, same with COD5 and both games lagged badly on both systems.

 

[hyelife]

Does the proxy help only in PSN downloads or will things speed up for playing games online?

 

[Retaliation]

Wow man this works great.I was pulling about 300kb/s from my 10meg connection now I'm getting about 1.5-2mb/s.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

[QUOTE="SillyHatMafia, post: 0]This may be helpful for those who dont wanna use a proxy and set up a static IP.
I have a linksys router. (WRT54G) I recommend most people update their router to the newest firmware. My router had an issue with UPNP which is important for PSN. The new router firmware fixes that UPNP glitch. Now my connection is great, i was able to dwonload the killzone 2 demo in 25 minutes or so

a-sin: I think COD just had crappy servers. I played COD4 on PS3 AND 360, same with COD5 and both games lagged badly on both systems.[/quote]If you're going to install new router firmware, I would advise installing DD-WRT.

It's like steroids for your router .

 

[Rekmon]

[QUOTE="silentmemory, post: 0]I thought that too, but the Privoxy FAQ seems to state it doesn't funnel everything through port 80: http://www.privoxy.org/faq/configuration.html#PORT-80


Well then I'm confused, I have no idea how this solution is working unless everything is indeed being sent over 80 [/quote]
Hmmm.... I'm confused as well by this. I really think it has something to do with the ps3 being 'picky' about how it receives data... we might never know!

[QUOTE="A-SIN, post: 0]My PSN downloads run amazingly fast, like 2mbps fast! But COD4 and COD5 lag (my guy teleports and freezes ). Will doing this solve the problem?

I have already tried the following:

- using wired and wireless connections
- Port forwarding all PSN ports to my PS3 static IP
- Putting PS3 static IP into DMZ option on router
- resetting the router and modem

all have been ineffective. I have a 2mb connection! and i get terrible lag!![/quote]
Dunno try it out and let us know how it works.
[QUOTE="hyelife, post: 0]Does the proxy help only in PSN downloads or will things speed up for playing games online?[/quote]
If you're asking if you'll get better ping times I doubt it, this would probably increase your ping times very slightly (I haven't noticed much difference)

I have noticed that in CoD:W@W I'm now usually the host though.

[QUOTE="Retaliation, post: 0]Wow man this works great.I was pulling about 300kb/s from my 10meg connection now I'm getting about 1.5-2mb/s.[/quote]
Awesome, glad to hear it worked for another person.

 

[cb_32]

gonna set this up when ive got some free time, thanks for posting it.

 

[Rekmon]

[QUOTE="cb_32, post: 0]gonna set this up when ive got some free time, thanks for posting it.[/quote]
Did you try it? What are your results?

 

[hankb]

Hi folks,
This is pretty interesting, but I see an incredible amount of confusion and some questionable setup recommendations so I thought I'd try to clear some of this up.

First of all, a proxy is neither a server or a client. It is a program that sits between the client (PS3) and server (web site) and passes traffic back and forth. For more detail, go to Wikipedia and search for "web proxy" (where they call it a Proxy Server. )

In our case, the proxy seems to mask some error in the PS3's handling of downloads from Internet web servers. (I tried downloading a file that took about 3 seconds on my PC and it started at about 1% every 20 seconds on the PS3. Something is clearly wrong there!)

You do not need to configure your router/firewall differently when you use the proxy unless you have your router set up to block connections between hosts on your internal network. (Most likely not the default configuration as it would block file and printer sharing too.) The traffic going out to the Internet will look the same (more or less) regardless of whether it comes from the proxy or the PS3.

You do not need to configure the browser on your PC to use the proxy unless you desire some benefit from the proxy like ad filtering. Please note that when you do so, you can use the IP address 127.0.0.1 on the same PC which is a special address known as localhost - meaning the host I'm on. If you mistakenly plug this address into your PS3 thinking you will connect to the proxy, it will try to connect to a proxy on your PS3 and that obviously will not work.

You do need to know the IP address of your PC along with the port number that the proxy is listening on. Those are the proxy settings you plug into the PS3 configuration so it knows how to connect to the proxy when it connects to the Internet. And now it should be obvious that the PC needs to be on and the proxy running when the PS3 needs to connect to the Internet.

To avoid having to reconfigure your PS3 proxy settings (which really is pretty easy with 2.6) it is convenient to set your PC to use a static IP address. The best way to do this is to configure your router to assign a static address for the PC's MAC address. (The MAC address is a kind of serial number assigned to the network interface whether it be Ethernet or Wifi at the time of manufacture.) When you do this, your PC will always get the same IP address and that IP address will not be assigned to any other devices on your LAN. If your router does not have this capability out of the box, you might find a version of DD-WRT router firmware that can do this. That's what I did with an older Linksys router.

I do not recommend going into your Windows settings and changing the IP address from DHCP to static. If your PC is off the LAN and someone plugs in another device (PC, LAN Printer, game etc.) it could get that same address and then when you turn your PC on, you will have two devices trying to use the same address. Things will get confused and not work. If you must set the IP to static on your PC, then check the manual and determine which addresses are available (e.g. not in the range assigned by the router.) Be sure you only change the last portion of the address. (Most home routers - every one that I've used lately - has a built in web server that you can use to check status and update configuration. You can usually connect to it at http://192.168.1.1) (*)

I hope this clears up some of the mystery for getting this configured. If this explanation is not clear, let me know and I'll try to fix it.

Thanks to the OP for discovering that a proxy can make a difference. Unfortunately it was no help for me. (I'm using squid on Linux and that seems not to cover the problem that results in slow downloads.)

Edit: I believe the proxy is helping me. Last night I started downloading some trailers and game demos and they hadn't finished when the console powered itself off. Tonight - after configuring to use my proxy - I did more or less the same and trailers were finishing before I left the store with everything finishing minutes later!

HTH,
hank

(*) A lot of these settings assume that you have not changed the default settings on your router and the router chooses settings similar to what mine do.