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This is such a newbie question but I can't seem to find a straight answer without a bunch of technical jarble that I could care less about.

So here it is: I have a standard definition TV, nothing fancy. I recently got a blu-ray movie and I have heard that it will make no difference on my TV. In fact, it will look exactly like a DVD.

Now, do I need to shell out more money to buy an HDTV? Is there any other way at all? I'm not looking for maximum output like 1080i or whatever. Just enough so that there is a difference between the blu-ray movie and a DVD.
 
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[QUOTE="Aya, post: 1016634]This is such a newbie question but I can't seem to find a straight answer without a bunch of technical jarble that I could care less about.

So here it is: I have a standard definition TV, nothing fancy. I recently got a blu-ray movie and I have heard that it will make no difference on my TV. In fact, it will look exactly like a DVD.

Now, do I need to shell out more money to buy an HDTV? Is there any other way at all? I'm not looking for maximum output like 1080i or whatever. Just enough so that there is a difference between the blu-ray movie and a DVD.[/quote]


Well, there might be a slight differnce in colors or something... but your SDTV (regular non hdtv) is not capable of displaying what is high definition. so without technical mumbo jumbo im telling you the answer is NO, there is no other way besides getting a HDTV.
 
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majinvegeta

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[QUOTE="REFLEX, post: 1017557]Well, there might be a slight differnce in colors or something... but your SDTV (regular non hdtv) is not capable of displaying what is high definition. so without technical mumbo jumbo im telling you the answer is NO, there is no other way besides getting a HDTV.[/quote]

I got another question for ya man.

So today I did a little more research, and to my surprise I learn that my tv is an EDTV!! :S

wth?! it can do 480i/480p/720p/1080i but according to many websites, they label it as an EDTV. Then I checked out some more specs and found that its native resolution is 852x480. I don't know much about EDTV, so if there is a considerable amount of difference, then I would rather get myself a Sony Bravia 32".
 
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[QUOTE="majinvegeta, post: 1017859]I got another question for ya man.

So today I did a little more research, and to my surprise I learn that my tv is an EDTV!! :S

wth?! it can do 480i/480p/720p/1080i but according to many websites, they label it as an EDTV. Then I checked out some more specs and found that its native resolution is 852x480. I don't know much about EDTV, so if there is a considerable amount of difference, then I would rather get myself a Sony Bravia 32".[/quote]

Well there is a big difference between an EDTV and a HDTV, youll notice a big difference. When it says it can do those resolutions 480i/480p/720p/1080i that means it can ACCEPT them, not display them. So it can do 480p display.. a little higher too ofcourse, but not HD really, youll notice a big difference.
 
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[QUOTE="jaehood, post: 1018256]question... i am in the search of a cheap HDTV that supports 1080i. i am aware of the 1080i problem with ps3 and was wondering if this tv would be effected or if it would be ok.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...CategoryId=pcmcat95100050013&id=1130981881933

Thank You[/quote]

The problem with some older 1080i HDTVs is that they do NOT accept 720p sources, so for example when your playing Resistance fall of man it will send out a 720p signal, if you had one of those HDTVs that couldnt accept it - it would push the resolution output down to 480. which is hardly HD.

The TV you have a link for (while doesnt have much info on that page) I checked out somwhere else on the 'net and and it says it will accept 720p along with 1080i and 480i/p. So you should be ok!! From what ive read anyway, Im assuming the info I got off of various other sites is correct.
 
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thanks alot! do you think that woud be an alright tv for my ps3? its just going into my college townhouse bed room. and im only trying to spend around a grand for the TV and the PS3 together.
 
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[QUOTE="jaehood, post: 1018371]thanks alot! do you think that woud be an alright tv for my ps3? its just going into my college townhouse bed room. and im only trying to spend around a grand for the TV and the PS3 together.[/quote]

In your case yes, it will do just fine! 8)
 
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majinvegeta

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[QUOTE="REFLEX, post: 1018782]In your case yes, it will do just fine! 8)[/quote]

Hey Reflex, just wanted to say THANK YOU :). Just bought myself a Sony Bravia 40" :) does 1080i and is BEAUTIFUL. MUCH better than the stupid akai 42", not only physically but clearly I can tell that the image quality is superb on this LCD.

Man, I can't believe I got this TV lol. I was going for the 32", but then we saw the 40" and I just could not stop staring at it :D.

Now heres a question, I have a 19" Samsung LCD Monitor that I was using earlier in my bedroom for my PS3 gaming. With this monitor, I was able to FORCE 1080p, and it does work fine. Is this possible on the PS3? at the moment, I am using 1080i component cables I bought a few days ago. The cable says it supports 1080i max, I tried outputting 1080p, but I just got a blank screen :(. Do you think its the cables? or just the TV not being able to accept a higher signal?

Again, thank you very much, without this information, I would have been staying with that very inferior akai television that SUCKS ASS!
 
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[QUOTE="majinvegeta, post: 1022043]Hey Reflex, just wanted to say THANK YOU :). Just bought myself a Sony Bravia 40" :) does 1080i and is BEAUTIFUL. MUCH better than the stupid akai 42", not only physically but clearly I can tell that the image quality is superb on this LCD.

Man, I can't believe I got this TV lol. I was going for the 32", but then we saw the 40" and I just could not stop staring at it :D.

Now heres a question, I have a 19" Samsung LCD Monitor that I was using earlier in my bedroom for my PS3 gaming. With this monitor, I was able to FORCE 1080p, and it does work fine. Is this possible on the PS3? at the moment, I am using 1080i component cables I bought a few days ago. The cable says it supports 1080i max, I tried outputting 1080p, but I just got a blank screen :(. Do you think its the cables? or just the TV not being able to accept a higher signal?

Again, thank you very much, without this information, I would have been staying with that very inferior akai television that SUCKS ASS![/quote]


Haha! Oh boy... well your welcome, just glad to be of some help.

Hmmm, lets see... You cannot force anything with the PS3 as far as resolution goes, you must remember that the vast majority of HDTVs do not accept 1080p via Component cables.... some do, but only most older models (some 2006 ones do too I think), but thats about it, its all about Copy Protection and the regulation of digital signals. So you can only output 1080i through component, if the TV isnt a 1080p HDTV that can accept 1080p then dont worry, if it is a 1080p tv that can accept 1080p signals then get HDMI... otherwise your sittin pretty good as it is.


Im glad youve gotten something you like! Congrats.
 

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my HDTV doesn't display 1080p. will i be able to play blu ray movies in 720p or 1080i with the ps3 or can they only be displayed in 1080p?
 
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[QUOTE="Raziel123, post: 1023775]my HDTV doesn't display 1080p. will i be able to play blu ray movies in 720p or 1080i with the ps3 or can they only be displayed in 1080p?[/quote]

No, it should be able to play them on something else other than 1080p! So you should be fine, does your TV accept 1080i and 720p? You should be fine.

It wone be able to play them in 1080p on your HDTV unless it is an actual 1080p HDTV.
 
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Ok, what you mean to say is that it ACCEPTS both signals, it can only display 1, its native resolution. So your fine.. unless you want something shiny and new with newer specs, stick with what you have for now. But like I said, unless you want something bigger or "better" then upgrade, do whatever makes you happy.

But for what you asked, your fine.
 
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I need a Question to be answered ASAP i have asked this everywhere and i havent gotten a response so i got a PS3 and when ever i put in my blu-ray movies in when i have the HDMI cable in i only get a black screen and when i put in a game the game works fine but when i take out the HDMI cable and put in the ones it came with the movies work fine but i dont want to watch HD movies on 480i. so does anyone know whats wrong
 
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I have a Pioneer plasma pdp5070, any special settings right off the bat I should do?

I am now going to look for an ISF person around the GTA area here in canada.
 
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[QUOTE="Jake Graham07, post: 1024422]I need a Question to be answered ASAP i have asked this everywhere and i havent gotten a response so i got a PS3 and when ever i put in my blu-ray movies in when i have the HDMI cable in i only get a black screen and when i put in a game the game works fine but when i take out the HDMI cable and put in the ones it came with the movies work fine but i dont want to watch HD movies on 480i. so does anyone know whats wrong[/quote]

huh..... well which HDTV do you have? Can it accept these forms of HD? 720p, 1080i?


[QUOTE="polskaforever, post: 1024447]I have a Pioneer plasma pdp5070, any special settings right off the bat I should do?

I am now going to look for an ISF person around the GTA area here in canada.[/quote]



Well not really, you should check out AVS forums for specific settings on your specific HDTVs, all makes and models are different for that stuff. If you can find an ISF Calibrator then your getting the BEST possible results from your TV. If you cannot get one then I suggest getting a Calibration DVD instead, which will help a lot. Typically youd want to turn most extra processing off, set iris levels to off or MAX and turn the sharpness down to below 20. Thats ROUGH..... basics.
 

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[QUOTE="REFLEX, post: 1023835]Ok, what you mean to say is that it ACCEPTS both signals, it can only display 1, its native resolution. So your fine.. unless you want something shiny and new with newer specs, stick with what you have for now. But like I said, unless you want something bigger or "better" then upgrade, do whatever makes you happy.

But for what you asked, your fine.[/quote]


nice thanks :) i just want my movies with good high def quality.
 
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[QUOTE="Raziel123, post: 1024907]nice thanks :) i just want my movies with good high def quality.[/quote]

Yup.. enjoy, with the right titles on a decent enough TV youll be really happy.
 
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[QUOTE="REFLEX, post: 1024528]huh..... well which HDTV do you have? Can it accept these forms of HD? 720p, 1080i?






Well not really, you should check out AVS forums for specific settings on your specific HDTVs, all makes and models are different for that stuff. If you can find an ISF Calibrator then your getting the BEST possible results from your TV. If you cannot get one then I suggest getting a Calibration DVD instead, which will help a lot. Typically youd want to turn most extra processing off, set iris levels to off or MAX and turn the sharpness down to below 20. Thats ROUGH..... basics.[/quote]

Why turn the sharpness down to below 20? Wont that blurry the image even more? Also whats Iris levels exactly? Right now I have brightness and contrast set lower than normal and colour changed a bit.
 
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[QUOTE="polskaforever, post: 1027019]Why turn the sharpness down to below 20? Wont that blurry the image even more? Also whats Iris levels exactly? Right now I have brightness and contrast set lower than normal and colour changed a bit.[/quote]

Well basically Sharpness is a processing ability that the TV does to images to ADD extra information that is not there to begin with. So if the picture is sharp, then it could be turned to 0 and not make it blurry or anything. It is NOT the control for sharp vs. blurry or direct control over the actual sharpness of the image. Its adding additional information to something that isn't there to begin with.

Irish level is strange to most people, the Advanced Iris settings on most peoples HDTVs can really screw with the image. In dark scenes (a good example is during the movie Syrianna, when they are in a theater talking, real covert style) where light is sometimes changed, night scenes, anything really... the Advanced Iris will try to compensate, so in some areas youll see light get brighter or darker. It really annoys the hell out of most people, so setting it to LOW, or MAX is the best.

The MANY other settings are more or less up to you until you get some sort of Calibration done, either by a pro (ISF) or by yourself with a disc, which is just great too. The sharpness on my HDTV was set professionally with instruments and such.... its at 11. This of course is particular to my HDTV and my other settings.... but still.
 
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Sanyo z3? Hmm - are you talking about the[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][FONT=Arial,Helvetica] Sanyo PLV-Z3? If so I can help you out, but I Need to know first.. I think thats the one your talking about.
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Hi everyone, good to be here.
Hope this is the right section. I don't know if this is normal or not or if my setup is setup correctly but when i play a blue-ray movie in my ps3 (Ricky Bobby) The voices are a lot quieter in the movie than when played on cable on the t.v at the same volume. The t.v i have is a Sharp LC-32D40U LCD t.v and it the connection is through a HDMI cable. I setup my video through the ps3 to display 1080i through the HDMI cable but for the audio setup I set it through the HDMI cable but in the next screen i have many audio options and i don't know which ones to choose for my t.v. Some have higher frequencies than others and when i select them it says it could damage my speakers if it not supported by the t.v. How do I set-up my system properly and find out what my t.v supports as i can't find it in the manual or their site. I don't know if this is the issue with the quieter talking or if its something else so if not can someone point me in the right direction to what i should do? Also what formats does the blue ray movie support? 1080p, 1080i etc? Thanks a bunch everyone
 

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[QUOTE="REFLEX, post: 1007357]hmmm.. I dont think crappy places like Best Buy has them..... hold on a second... do you shop online?

http://www.ovationmultimedia.com/avia.html

or


http://www.videoessentials.com/


Id suggest getting DVE DVD over AVIA..... but either will be alright. You can look around at Amazon.com or Ebay or other places for these titles... you dont need to get them from their site, but you can do that too.[/quote]

DVE DVD costs just as much as getting it ISF calibrated, i thought he was looking for cheaper solutions, lol.
 
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[QUOTE="behemoko, post: 1041573]DVE DVD costs just as much as getting it ISF calibrated, i thought he was looking for cheaper solutions, lol.[/quote]

Haha.. NO, your looking at the Pro DVD set... thats for Calibrators. You can get it BRAND new for 40 dollars or so. Thats CHEAP. You were looking at the wrong one!
 
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Sorry about the double post im super ultra multi tasking at the moment and didnt even notice. Sorry...


[QUOTE="Commandermick, post: 1041564]Hi everyone, good to be here.
Hope this is the right section. I don't know if this is normal or not or if my setup is setup correctly but when i play a blue-ray movie in my ps3 (Ricky Bobby) The voices are a lot quieter in the movie than when played on cable on the t.v at the same volume. The t.v i have is a Sharp LC-32D40U LCD t.v and it the connection is through a HDMI cable. I setup my video through the ps3 to display 1080i through the HDMI cable but for the audio setup I set it through the HDMI cable but in the next screen i have many audio options and i don't know which ones to choose for my t.v. Some have higher frequencies than others and when i select them it says it could damage my speakers if it not supported by the t.v. How do I set-up my system properly and find out what my t.v supports as i can't find it in the manual or their site. I don't know if this is the issue with the quieter talking or if its something else so if not can someone point me in the right direction to what i should do? Also what formats does the blue ray movie support? 1080p, 1080i etc? Thanks a bunch everyone[/quote]

When you set the HDMI Audio, do you use Auto or Manual?