TSA Confiscates Pregnant Woman's Insulin

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According to the TSA's statement they gave her such a fuss because she didn't formally declare it up-front. Technically foul on her part but citizens shouldn't be required to jump through such hoops just to travel.
 

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[QUOTE="Tyrien, post: 5625833]According to the TSA's statement they gave her such a fuss because she didn't formally declare it up-front. Technically foul on her part but citizens shouldn't be required to jump through such hoops just to travel.[/QUOTE]

Because most definitely a pregnant woman who have forgot to declare her insulin is a fucking terrorist... I do agree agree about the hoops part.

Just insane that people stand for this treatment.
 

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They could learn a thing or two from how security at airports in Israel, they have a bigger terrorist issue than the U.S ever had and they don't have these types of measures to harass their citizens.
 

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[QUOTE="Tutankhamun, post: 5625839]They could learn a thing or two from how security at airports in Israel[/QUOTE]

I already covered this in a post from several months ago - the Israeli airport infrastructure is _dinky_ compared to the US and they're able to do things that would cause air travel in (and out of) the US to come to a screeching halt.
 

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[QUOTE="Tutankhamun, post: 5625836]Because most definitely a pregnant woman who have forgot to declare her insulin is a fucking terrorist... I do agree agree about the hoops part.

Just insane that people stand for this treatment.[/QUOTE]
You can save me your sarcasm and disdain :p

I'm just trying to see this from the TSA's point of view. Given the context it does seem like a far stretch to assume a pregnant woman with insulin would be any kind of threat; however, I'm also taking into account that the common TSA agent is essentially conditioned to treat anything as "suspicious" and here the agent saw a woman who tried to "hide" a bottle of medication that while properly labelled could have been something else.

By all forms of rationale this is terrorism winning.
 

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[DT];5625840 said:
I already covered this in a post from several months ago - the Israeli airport infrastructure is _dinky_ compared to the US and they're able to do things that would cause air travel in (and out of) the US to come to a screeching halt.
Infrastructure can be expanded, I think it would work but they don't want to make your travel easier, they just want to take away your civil rights.

[QUOTE="Tyrien, post: 5625842]You can save me your sarcasm and disdain :p

I'm just trying to see this from the TSA's point of view. Given the context it does seem like a far stretch to assume a pregnant woman with insulin would be any kind of threat; however, I'm also taking into account that the common TSA agent is essentially conditioned to treat anything as "suspicious" and here the agent saw a woman who tried to "hide" a bottle of medication that while properly labelled could have been something else.

By all forms of rationale this is terrorism winning.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, these so called "terrorist" wanted to take a way the Western way of life and they have succeeded.
 

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[QUOTE="Tutankhamun, post: 5625844]Infrastructure can be expanded, I think it would work but they don't want to make your travel easier, they just want to take away your civil rights.
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You didn't read that correctly. The US infrastructure (size, roadways in/out, people, parking, flights, etc.) is huge and as such the model being used by Israel just isn't applicable (they have _ONE_ main international airport that does less traffic than just Orlando...). They use profiling and spend significant time with one-on-one interviewing.
 

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[QUOTE="Tutankhamun, post: 5625839]They could learn a thing or two from how security at airports in Israel, they have a bigger terrorist issue than the U.S ever had and they don't have these types of measures to harass their citizens.[/QUOTE]

Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low (see microexpression).

At the check-in counter, passengers' passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers' names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives. El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber. Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms.
That sounds doable for the millions of airline passengers in the US daily.

Even if we just singled out international travelers, that would still be at least several hundred thousand passengers daily.

Israel can afford to undertake such measures when all the surrounding countries want to destroy it.

Not only is it financially and logistically impossible to do that on a nationwide basis, it would also infringe on peoples rights. (even more so than the current system).