Writer for Kotaku and Zoe Quinn Accused of Exchanging Positive Press for Sex

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[QUOTE="Kingstoph, post: 6373850]It is indeed, idiots are jumping to her defence and ignoring all the facts because shes a girl and according to the internet, every single female in the history of ever is being oppressed and bullied by every single male in the history of ever.

The main focus should be on the so called journalists. we the gamer rely on these people to preview and review games so we can take an educated guess at if we want to play it or not, but once again we are shown that our trust is missplaced. the fact people are bending over backwards to defend her actions (banging people for exposure and good reviews) is what makes it worse. the Cencorship is even more worse-er...

And what makes me laugh, is that the government in the USA where trying to pass SOPA, and everyone lost their shit and said "NO CENSORSHIP!!". but now its fine to censor people when its defending a female because "Uh nuh slut shaming" bollocks.[/QUOTE]

I tried to get through his blog post but holy hell. Couldn't do it. This guy sounds a bit insane. But is there proof that she was intentionally doing it for favor of positive press? I didn't look through it all. Didn't know if that was on there. I did see a bunch of articles defending her honor which is just fucking dumb. Just stay out of it. She fucked up and has to suffer the consequences. I'm guessing she is a hardcore feminist is why she is getting so much ruthless hate? I'm not real familiar with her.

I got the gist of the whole thing though. Scorned boyfriend aired her dirty laundry. Not it's turned into a big clusterfuck. I'm just mostly curious if there is proof that she actually did it for the press.
 

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Oh there's no doubt, this guy is spineless and should have gone full exterminatus on her and that relationship the second he got even a hint of this. Still, the fact that she's being protected and defended when this is HER doing is just galling.

The fact that she screwed the married man who was hiring her (and is now her boss) while dating her boyfriend seems to imply she was at least using sex for self advancement in my opinion. But I'm not much concerned about 'the bigger picture' beyond observing the social phenomena surrounding it all.

Edit: What is happening PS4freak is massive censoring on various large community sites (reddit, 4chan) which attempt to speak about the issue\her or criticize her. Mass post removals, bannings, etc is what I'm hearing. It's bizarre.

Ergo why it is so fascinating.

Feminism is now establishment and is enshrined, it is difficult to mount a legitimate offense against it. No surprise, then, that this is all happening.

PSU is actually one of the very few places I frequent that is quite often openly critical of feminism without things devolving into a shitstorm. Case in point: Neogaf. That place is a SJW-Gamer haven. I see it all the time there, and even in the Halo thread with that chick Dax. Whenever something goes wrong she 'rings' an admin who she is personally friends with, and he exonerates her and often bans people.

To be fair, I've only seen it happen in that Halo thread but the community acts as if this is a normal occurrence (several offered themselves up to be banned just to call the guy out on it, but they have a zero tolerance policy of questioning the mods).


In sum, fairly sickening.

Edit Edit: We're back to censoring swear words now? ffs.
 
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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 6373888]PSU is actually one of the very few places I frequent that is quite often openly critical of feminism without things devolving into a shitstorm. Case in point: Neogaf. That place is a SJW-Gamer haven. I see it all the time there, and even in the Halo thread with that chick Dax. Whenever something goes wrong she 'rings' an admin who she is personally friends with, and he exonerates her and often bans people.

To be fair, I've only seen it happen in that Halo thread but the community acts as if this is a normal occurrence (several offered themselves up to be banned just to call the guy out on it, but they have a zero tolerance policy of questioning the mods). [/QUOTE]

Yep, I was banned there last week for offering a well-reasoned opinion that was critical of a woman. It's astonishing that they literally ban people for having opinions they don't agree with.

The reason that forum is so protective of women and feminism is because they ban everyone who either criticizes it or criticizes the moderation that silences it.

So when I saw they didn't even allow discussion on Zoe Quinn's hypocrisy, it made their bias even more clear.
 

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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 6373888]Feminism is now establishment and is enshrined, it is difficult to mount a legitimate offense against it. No surprise, then, that this is all happening.[/QUOTE]

Feminism has a monopoly on social equality. Because of this many people see only two choices: Be a feminist or be a sexist. So questioning or criticizing feminism (or outright denying it as a personal world view) must obviously mean you're a bad person.

"Shame on you. Stop oppressing women," they say. "Be quit you misogynist," they shout as you defend yourself. They'll then prescribe whatever definition best suits their own agenda or defense in that moment, despite their own actions and the focus of the group at large. I've seen and gone through it numerous times.

The well is poisoned. All true egalitarians need to abandon the sinking boat. But not all of them will realize until the cold water is at their ankles and it's too late.
 

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I don't know what feminists you have been around, but the ones I hung out with, never once criticised me about my views and to be honest I find their views quite logical.

I've come to the conclusion that feminism is divided in smaller subgroups around the world and their ideologies vary a lot. And putting them all under the same roof is a bit unfair.

As for agendas, I agree, everyone has one. If you are looking for faults you'll definitely find some.
 

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A bunch of nerds overhyped to sex and a bunch of feminist overprotective to a xxx. This happens all the time...

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If you want a better explaination, this is the best thing to watch.

[video=youtube;C5-51PfwI3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M&list=UUWB0dvorHvkQlgfGGJR2yxQ[/video]

Follow-Up

[video=youtube;pKmy5OKg6lo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmy5OKg6lo&list=UUWB0dvorHvkQlgfGGJR2yxQ[/video]
 

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This one too! Mundane Matt yall

[video=youtube_share;RTvrv7BGuk8]http://youtu.be/RTvrv7BGuk8?list=UUxXUQuvoiIAlpM2osoAitjQ[/video]
 

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[QUOTE="MjW, post: 6373930]I don't know what feminists you have been around, but the ones I hung out with, never once criticised me about my views and to be honest I find their views quite logical.

I've come to the conclusion that feminism is divided in smaller subgroups around the world and their ideologies vary a lot. And putting them all under the same roof is a bit unfair.

As for agendas, I agree, everyone has one. If you are looking for faults you'll definitely find some.[/QUOTE]

I've never met a feminist in my life. Guess it's just something about where we live. There is much more mutual respect as a whole. But the only feminist you ever see in media are the hardcore feminist that scream words like misogynist and sexist on a usual basis. Of course they give a bad name too the ones that actually just want respect and not unrealistic expectations from society.

As for the censoring, it's fucking disgusting. So because you allow discussion against feminism it makes you a bigot. Just butt out and let the people discuss. There are pieces of shit on both sides of the argument. It will likely be those two duking it out so let the punches fly. Media manipulation pissed me off to no end.
 

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Atleast its bringing the internet together. Communities who previously hated eachother are standing side by side and collectively calling out the BS


I mean hell, 4Chan, Reddit, Tumblr and other sites are putting aside their mutual hatred (or in 4Chan's case, Fair-game policy) on the matter!
 
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http://ohdeargodbees.tumblr.com/post/95188657119/once-again-i-will-not-negotiate-with-terrorists

That's a hell of a statement, especially when it was shown the doxxing and threats were falsified. She's also skipping over the issue people are actually discussing (the wide-spread censorship). No one cares if she slept with some guys, yet that's the fallback she brings up to act like a victim.

Edit: Apparently there's a second wave of shadowbans going across Reddit. Someone leaked an image on /v/ showing the reddit admins discussing the situation and they're scapegoating the problem as a 4chan raid so they can silence it. I don't know if it's valid, but when 4chan gets riled up they can find anything. >_>
 
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[QUOTE="Vulgotha, post: 6373888]
PSU is actually one of the very few places I frequent that is quite often openly critical of feminism without things devolving into a $#@!storm. Case in point: Neogaf. That place is a SJW-Gamer haven. I see it all the time there, and even in the Halo thread with that chick Dax. Whenever something goes wrong she 'rings' an admin who she is personally friends with, and he exonerates her and often bans people.
[/QUOTE]

I've written the most about these kind of issues on the site, and ironically enough two of my pieces disappeared months ago. How? No clue, but I chalk it up on all the errors that were happening before.

http://www.psu.com/feature/19994/Damsel-in-distress

http://www.psu.com/feature/19947/Morality-in-Video-Games

http://www.psu.com/feature/18913/Vi...-misrepresentation-and-the-last-line-of-truth

Social justice is a business now, simple as that. People are making money on it, and because the people who are smart enough to fight it are in positions that could have their careers/lives ruined because of just three magic words..."You're a sexist" has shown how bent the world in the west has become.

I have two words that quell this 'anti-women' BS in video games. Resident Evil! Put aside your differences for the actual story/gameplay for a moment and just enjoy this breakdown of facts.

RE1 = 1M/1F
RE2 = 1M/1F
RE3 = 1F
RE: Code Veronica = 1F
RE4 = 1M
RE5 = 1M/1F
RE6= 4M/3F
Revelations = 1M/1F
Zero = 1M/1F

Point being, here is one of the biggest mainstream franchises in video games with either your choice of well-developed male OR female characters, or more games with just a female/mainly female lead.

The problem is SJWs just want to focus on the negatives, rather than looking at gaming as a spectrum. Hell, even Dynasty Warriors adds female characters to be used even though at that time and place in history the person either didn't exist or wasn't able to pick up a sword.
 

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[QUOTE="Lasombra, post: 6374063]I've written the most about these kind of issues on the site, and ironically enough two of my pieces disappeared months ago. How? No clue, but I chalk it up on all the errors that were happening before.

http://www.psu.com/feature/19994/Damsel-in-distress

http://www.psu.com/feature/19947/Morality-in-Video-Games

http://www.psu.com/feature/18913/Vi...-misrepresentation-and-the-last-line-of-truth

Social justice is a business now, simple as that. People are making money on it, and because the people who are smart enough to fight it are in positions that could have their careers/lives ruined because of just three magic words..."You're a sexist" has shown how bent the world in the west has become.

I have two words that quell this 'anti-women' BS in video games. Resident Evil! Put aside your differences for the actual story/gameplay for a moment and just enjoy this breakdown of facts.

RE1 = 1M/1F
RE2 = 1M/1F
RE3 = 1F
RE: Code Veronica = 1F
RE4 = 1M
RE5 = 1M/1F
RE6= 4M/3F
Revelations = 1M/1F
Zero = 1M/1F

Point being, here is one of the biggest mainstream franchises in video games with either your choice of well-developed male OR female characters, or more games with just a female/mainly female lead.

The problem is SJWs just want to focus on the negatives, rather than looking at gaming as a spectrum. Hell, even Dynasty Warriors adds female characters to be used even though at that time and place in history the person either didn't exist or wasn't able to pick up a sword.[/QUOTE]

That is any group in general that feel they have received injustice. There is very little middle ground. Only what stand well on their ground. Feminism in gaming does exist to an extent but nothing like the proportions they portray it. Do I want equality on all sides of the spectrum. Absolutely! Would make for a much more peaceful and easier world to live in. Sadly the world has devolved into a have your cake and eat it too mentality. Why can't we all just get along!!!
 

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[QUOTE="PS4freak, post: 6374064]That is any group in general that feel they have received injustice. There is very little middle ground. Only what stand well on their ground. Feminism in gaming does exist to an extent but nothing like the proportions they portray it. Do I want equality on all sides of the spectrum. Absolutely! Would make for a much more peaceful and easier world to live in. Sadly the world has devolved into a have your cake and eat it too mentality. Why can't we all just get along!!![/QUOTE]

Money, plain and simple. Its never been about 'feminism' and 'equal rights'. That is just a red herring, convenient and profitable. 20 years ago we didn't have these problems because gaming wasn't mainstream and was considered just for kids. Now that an individual game is making 1 billion in a week (GTAV), everyone wants a slice of the pie anyway they can get it. They want fame and money.
 

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The Oppression Game[/URL]. :lol:
Wow! Didn't know 4chan was even deleting threads about it. That is insane. I thought the only thing that got deleted there was underage porn and bestiality! Shit is seriously twisted if even they don't want to touch it. The game was fun though. :)
 

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As a feminist, I hate it when shitty hypocritical people use feminism as a cloak over their hypocritical behaviour. And to make a boat load of cash while playing the victim.

Also this is quite damning, Wolf wozniak is also a game dev working for Iron Galaxy.

 
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yeah, i actually change my mind after i read more about this crazy woman. i would not hit it still...she's a disgusting human being.

not unless i was really really horny and just did not care about morals anymore. i just wanna lay that disclaimer out there, it's rare but it can happen.
 

victorijapoosp

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Enough, I'm sick of the attention seeking MEMEME faux feminists like sarkeesian (this girl is on acid, i swear the nit picking and the connecting of imaginary dots hurts my brain) and Zoe Quinn. Darling i don't give a shit who you shag for good press. But being hypocritical, Playing the victim, inventing bullies, pretending you got hacked, its something 12 year old insolent children do for attention.


I want to hear from actual female game devs like Corinne Yu, Alexandra Neonakis, Kellee Santiago, Robin Hunicke, Julie Uhrmen, Jade Raymond, Amy Hennig etc.

Seriously, Jade Raymond has probably received the most hate/perv mail in the history of gaming, Due to being the hottest game dev ever. Can't even imagine the crap she has thrown at her, yet I don't hear her whining or playing the victim ever. If she did tell us, I would 100% believe her.


[QUOTE="Omar, post: 6375192]yeah, i actually change my mind after i read more about this crazy woman. i would not hit it still...she's a disgusting human being.

not unless i was really really horny and just did not care about morals anymore. i just wanna lay that disclaimer out there, it's rare but it can happen.[/QUOTE]

This whole controversy blew over my head, I am only reading about it now and come across some naughty nudies of her early years. I honestly don't know what is so special about this girl? She made 1 crap game that sold (well, gained visibility and downloads) on the back of a sympathy vote. That's it
 
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hey so um please no one take this the wrong way but victor, could you be so kind and send me a link to those pictures that you had come across? thanks bud!
 

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[QUOTE="Omar, post: 6375203]hey so um please no one take this the wrong way but victor, could you be so kind and send me a link to those pictures that you had come across? thanks bud![/QUOTE]

thank me later

 

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now to make a copy of this jpg and put it in a folder that has an abstract name, and is within several other folders, which no one will ever think of opening.
 

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This has turned into such a deep and complicated mess now.

Have a look at this Timeline

This is utter Madness!! The fact that people are being called Terrorists and how this whole thing boils down to "Muh sojeh ney!" is just a damned joke! So many missguided idiots have jumped up going "Your all bad people!" without knowing the damnest thing is just... realy disapointing to be honest.

There have been people that have realised whats happening and spoken out about it, and thats great. but these SJW clowns are just jumping in without actualy researching the situation.

Its just... so infuriating realy, you just know how so so so very wrong someone is. but they will never listen...

Long Live Vivian James though, brilliant magical thing happened there, love it!