I only watched this for the Mirrors Edge segment, and oh boy did i get some reality when he said the game is only 900p... nah. Xbox users had it rough man. 120fps means nothing if the image quality is that soft.
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Actually it does mean something if you dont care if its 900p. You always downplaying stuff for xbox, bro. Like this is the first and only time we've seen tradeoffs like this.
Actually it does mean something if you dont care if its 900p. You always downplaying stuff for xbox, bro. Like this is the first and only time we've seen tradeoffs like this.
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Yeah, I gotta agree with Fijiandoce here, I don't know if I think it's worth it if the resolution goes as low as 900p (and maximum is 1080p). It's definitely way less impressive knowing that. I'd rather have 60fps with higer res and better visuals. But that's just me, some people prefer frame rate over everything else, I don't.
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Yeah, particularly with Mirrors Edge. I'm not normally a proponent of ever increasingly higher resolutions, but whatever the highest resolution you can play ME in, it should be played in - 4K, 8K etc, etc.
The artstyle really comes through since the game is a lot of simple textures, colours, and hard edges. If you run with a low resolution, your hard edges become mush, and the colours become soup-y. The game genuinely looks bad. In fairness, even 1080p just barely passes for ME.
Why would someone say these things about this game in particular? I dunno, take a guess. It's not as if the avatar or signature were plucked from a random image DB or anything...
The artstyle really comes through since the game is a lot of simple textures, colours, and hard edges. If you run with a low resolution, your hard edges become mush, and the colours become soup-y. The game genuinely looks bad. In fairness, even 1080p just barely passes for ME.
Why would someone say these things about this game in particular? I dunno, take a guess. It's not as if the avatar or signature were plucked from a random image DB or anything...
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I wasnt praising anything. I just find it funny to complain about the resolution of a game that you already knew was going to be the same. Look, I know I have a history here and and I m a xbox guy but that doesnt mean I dont notice other shit either.
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Wired assumption. It can't possibly be that i'd forgotten entirely, and was only reminded when it was mentioned in the video? Hence the passing comment. But as i say, by all means take what i said about one of my favourite titles and apply it wholesale to every title in the video...
BTW: You might find the following somewhat insightful. Because clearly the entire fact i did not like the PS4 Pro has somehow gone unnoticed: https://sci-hub.do/https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-8721.2007.00506.x
But you're free to read up on anything you want. If you need a key word for google, try: "autobiographical memory"
BTW: You might find the following somewhat insightful. Because clearly the entire fact i did not like the PS4 Pro has somehow gone unnoticed: https://sci-hub.do/https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-8721.2007.00506.x
But you're free to read up on anything you want. If you need a key word for google, try: "autobiographical memory"
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Why would I need to read up on anything? I dont care if you liked the ps4 pro. It has nothing to do with that.The game was only 900p on ps4 and 720p on xbox one. It only ran at 1080p on PC. But the question still remains. Why would you expect different when its clearly only a FPS boost? Its not a remake or remaster. If the intent was to make them game play better, and it does , how does that mean nothing when its accomplishing what its meant to do? You clearly knew this wasn't about about image quality. You took the positive and somehow found a way to squeeze in that negative. I've noticed in the past that you do that just like you did with this. Most of the time its only directed at xbox when we know there are compromises when it comes to this stuff.
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The irony here is what i said doesn't change if this is the case... as i say, i don't recall what the resolutions were. But nothing changes, take what i said, and apply it forward. Weird how that works when your opinion isn't tied to a piece of plastic...
I distinctly remember disagreeing with you on a whole bunch of topics, usually because you just parrot stuff, and when brought up on it, parrot harder. Kinda curious if you're still on that VRS hype wave, or if that's died down?
I've done the same for PS topics (as if that means anything) but as you pointed out yourself, you don't care, so you dont notice... for real, go read those links, you might get over this "us vs. them" thing that's been going on for well over a decade at this point...
I distinctly remember disagreeing with you on a whole bunch of topics, usually because you just parrot stuff, and when brought up on it, parrot harder. Kinda curious if you're still on that VRS hype wave, or if that's died down?
I've done the same for PS topics (as if that means anything) but as you pointed out yourself, you don't care, so you dont notice... for real, go read those links, you might get over this "us vs. them" thing that's been going on for well over a decade at this point...
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I dont have a us vs them thing. I've never held anything personal against anyone who didn't prefer xbox, but one thing I do is call out biases and double standards when I come across them. Am I biased. Yea, I guess you can say Im biased when it comes to xbox. Its the ecosystem that I prefer but not because I dislike the other piece of plastic.
Its no secret on this forum if you liked xbox over playstation you were singled out most of time and some of the mods failed to do what they should of done. its part of the reason this place is shit now.
Its no secret on this forum if you liked xbox over playstation you were singled out most of time and some of the mods failed to do what they should of done. its part of the reason this place is shit now.
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You were presented above with an opportunity to discuss how resolution and frame rate played into this particular games aesthetic with someone who genuinely adores the title in question (there is some worth to the discussion - LODs for example change based on resolution etc., and no one said that the higher fps was "bad"). I don't mind discussing Mirrors Edge, i'd talk about it all day - This game, and the one preceding it, is beautiful.
But instead, you took what was said as some perceived slant against the broader platform entirely, and used that as some tangent into irrelativity. Personally, i honestly don't know where that even comes from... was it because i said xbox gamers had it rough? They did. It was like a decade ago, get over it (i thought we were over it... i guess not). Or was it because i didn't circle jerk every title in the video? I called out the FOV is the resident evil thread... does that therefore make all other aspects equally as bad?
This thing is entirely remedial to me because i honestly dont understand. ME isn't even an Xbox exclusive. you can take what i said, and apply it to PS4/5 (even tho they have no support for it), and it stays the same. You can even take what i said, and apply it to PC, and it still doesn't change... geez.
But instead, you took what was said as some perceived slant against the broader platform entirely, and used that as some tangent into irrelativity. Personally, i honestly don't know where that even comes from... was it because i said xbox gamers had it rough? They did. It was like a decade ago, get over it (i thought we were over it... i guess not). Or was it because i didn't circle jerk every title in the video? I called out the FOV is the resident evil thread... does that therefore make all other aspects equally as bad?
This thing is entirely remedial to me because i honestly dont understand. ME isn't even an Xbox exclusive. you can take what i said, and apply it to PS4/5 (even tho they have no support for it), and it stays the same. You can even take what i said, and apply it to PC, and it still doesn't change... geez.
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I just said what I prefer and what I think about it, no need to take it so personal. You have the right to your opinion about this just as much as I/we do. And yes, I agree, it's definitely good that they make them run better for free.
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Its not personal at all. I just think its odd for someone to say 120 fps means nothing. Especially since last gen gamers made such a big deal about the highest resolution.
I didn't bring up resolution.i was just responding to what yousaid about it. I just find it odd that you would say FPS means nothing after years of you saying that the cpu was holding back last gen from getting higher framerates. And add to that you used a last generation game that was already known to look pretty much the same. A game running at least double the framerate. It used to means nothing. I guess ill just have to remember that one.
I didn't bring up resolution.i was just responding to what yousaid about it. I just find it odd that you would say FPS means nothing after years of you saying that the cpu was holding back last gen from getting higher framerates. And add to that you used a last generation game that was already known to look pretty much the same. A game running at least double the framerate. It used to means nothing. I guess ill just have to remember that one.
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I didn't say it means nothing, that's your words. I said it wasn't that impressive and that I would rather have better visuals and higher resolution (@60fps) than 900p/120fps. All impovements are good, but if I could decide I would choose a balance between visuals and frame rate.
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So would I depending on the game, and you can choose that with the games which is even better because its offering you even more than just backwards compatibility. And with this its with no developer support. That is impressive to me.
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More power to you if you feel the need to drill down to the nth degree for literally a passing comment on a single title that's been out of circulation for so long people actually forgot what the metrics were.
This is one of those 1 + 1 = 5 moments... As i said above, you can't seem to get past this "us vs them" thing. I have no idea why you seem to take this comment about the title, and apply it to the broader console, and every other title that was viewed in the video... also, Jaguar had shit for IPC, a new CPU allows for a lot more than better framerates, but i know we've already had that discussion before, and from this post i'm guessing it didn't stick, so no point beating a dead horse¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Where else am i supposed to post a comment about a title that's been out of conversation for the better part of a decade, if not for the post on a video which brought it back up to the fore?
I'll just hop over to one of the many active PS threads praising the game and add to the circle jerk there?
As always, a triviality has resulted in some major tangent from the norm when discussing things with you, and degenerated into some petty "xbox" squabble. Entertained it enough. I think if history here has taught anything it's that you'll argue any point ad nauseam. So, have at it. Pick up that banner, charge into battle, and die on that hill for the cause!
This is one of those 1 + 1 = 5 moments... As i said above, you can't seem to get past this "us vs them" thing. I have no idea why you seem to take this comment about the title, and apply it to the broader console, and every other title that was viewed in the video... also, Jaguar had shit for IPC, a new CPU allows for a lot more than better framerates, but i know we've already had that discussion before, and from this post i'm guessing it didn't stick, so no point beating a dead horse¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Where else am i supposed to post a comment about a title that's been out of conversation for the better part of a decade, if not for the post on a video which brought it back up to the fore?
I'll just hop over to one of the many active PS threads praising the game and add to the circle jerk there?
As always, a triviality has resulted in some major tangent from the norm when discussing things with you, and degenerated into some petty "xbox" squabble. Entertained it enough. I think if history here has taught anything it's that you'll argue any point ad nauseam. So, have at it. Pick up that banner, charge into battle, and die on that hill for the cause!
All I initially said was some people wont care about the resolution and will still enjoy the game at the high framerate. And yes you do tend to down play when it comes to xbox. Maybe saying "always wasnt accurate buts its something I've noticed . Not saying you are the only one guilty of it because you clearly arent.
When it comes to consoles there are clear double standards on both sides. Would you agree to that? You even said it yourself "it may seem that way" if I blindly praise it and I get that, but in this case,when exactly did I do that ? What am I blind too and how was I prasing? if I did praise it for running those games at 120 fps
you think its ok to use my preference for xbox,past or present,but its not ok for me to bring up that you've done similar things? I can go on about plenty of others stuff buts Its a perfect example of one of the reasons this place went to shit. Biases and double standards.
Its not about us vs them for me. I just like playing my games on xbox. Vs means im against or opposed to something. ive never been against something that wasnt xbox just because it wasnt. In the past you have stated people focus on resolution too much and now you say 120 FPS means nothing if its 900p. It makes you sound a bit hypocritical.
I wasnt accusing you of coming here to purposely downplay xbox, but you do tend to find the negatives even when they outweigh the positives. And that seems to happen much more with xbox. perfect example is your first post here. Just curious, how did you know Mirrors Edge was one of the games being boosted? And my other question that you never answered. How many PS5 games have received the same treatment....or i guess i should ask how many BC games are getting the same treatment on it?
When it comes to consoles there are clear double standards on both sides. Would you agree to that? You even said it yourself "it may seem that way" if I blindly praise it and I get that, but in this case,when exactly did I do that ? What am I blind too and how was I prasing? if I did praise it for running those games at 120 fps
you think its ok to use my preference for xbox,past or present,but its not ok for me to bring up that you've done similar things? I can go on about plenty of others stuff buts Its a perfect example of one of the reasons this place went to shit. Biases and double standards.
Its not about us vs them for me. I just like playing my games on xbox. Vs means im against or opposed to something. ive never been against something that wasnt xbox just because it wasnt. In the past you have stated people focus on resolution too much and now you say 120 FPS means nothing if its 900p. It makes you sound a bit hypocritical.
I wasnt accusing you of coming here to purposely downplay xbox, but you do tend to find the negatives even when they outweigh the positives. And that seems to happen much more with xbox. perfect example is your first post here. Just curious, how did you know Mirrors Edge was one of the games being boosted? And my other question that you never answered. How many PS5 games have received the same treatment....or i guess i should ask how many BC games are getting the same treatment on it?
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