HD DVD expert: Gamers aren't using consoles for movies
- Posted November 3rd, 2007 at 16:56 EDT by
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According to the Blu-ray Disc Association, millions are watching movies on their PS3s, but an HD DVD expert claims that this is untrue and that many gamers aren't even aware that their console can play HD movies.
Olivier Van Wynendaele, spokesman for the HD DVD Promotion Group, made the claims during an exclusive interview with Tech.co.uk.
He says, according to indepedent research figures, that 60 per cent of game consoles owners don't know they can play movies - either DVD or Blu-ray - on their PS3.
Furthermore, of the remaining 40 per cent, Van Wynendaele says that just 13 per cent are actually using their games console as a player.
With the quality of games recently released on PS3, can you really blame gamers for wanting to play GAMES on their GAMES consoles though?
Add to that the relatively high price of Blu-Ray/HD DVDs and it's no wonder that many are not that bothered about watching movies through their PS3.
Van Wynendaele also added that the same applies to owners of Microsoft's Xbox 360.
Source: PS3 News
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Nitsu78 |
Nitsu- 5:02pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Olivier Van Wynendaele can kiss my a**. I'm tired of these so called "experts" claiming the SAME piece of information. When ever they talk about this, its the same statistic... nothing else to back it up, or other studies to conferm it. Burn in he** HD-DVD!
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Legend-SAM |
Legend-SAM- 5:04pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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haha, i dont know anyone who doesnt know tat ps3 can play blu-ray. blu-ray owns HDDVD
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DnA19
- 5:15pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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screw those so call experts, they couldn't tell the differents from their own a?? and a hole in the ground. beside when you hear them speak, you can tell that most of them don't game. the only gaming they see are from behind their children backs when they do bother to make home, once in a blue that is!
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galaxyman14 |
Apollo15- 5:16pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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I'm pretty sure anyone who drops 400 dollars on a machine knows what it can do. If they don't then they're just plain stupid. Obviously the PS3 must be doing something to affect Blu-ray sales.
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swordfish64 |
Swordfish64- 5:31pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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According to this tool new PS3 owners are asking themselves, hmm, why does sony put a blu-ray logo on the FRONT of the box and why did they include this Spider-Man 3 blu-ray disc in the box? HDDEAD group has their heads stuck in the ground and they are spreading misinformation to consumers hoping that they too have their heads similiarly stuck underground. I don't know any PS3 owners who don't know that the machine can play blu-ray discs, and I myself have about 8 blu-ray discs and watch them on my ps3 all the time, and when I have friends and family over to watch a movie, we watch it in hi-def natively or upscaled on my PS3. HD-DUD, it is now time to give up hope, stop wasting our time already.
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Blingblingon44s
- 5:39pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Ha ha 60 percent dont know their ps3 can play movies? I find that very hard to believe! People are stupid but no that stupid
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Righteous
- 5:48pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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expert my ass, 360 owners don't watch movies on their console because it doesn't come with HD-DVD player, they hafta buy 'em separately...that's why...and he can't say the same with PS3...before i bought mine i know what's in the package, and i am certainly using whatever uses my PS3 is for. this guy doesn't know a thing he's talking about.
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Anim3Fr33K |
Anim3Fr33K- 5:51pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Consoles arnt used for movies? really? some one should have told me sooner as i watch more stuff on my PS3 that i do play games on it.
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Staticneuron |
Staticneuron- 5:53pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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He does have a point I am slowly realizing. THe majority of PS3 users aren't but enough are to make a dent and HD-DVD camp is looking for any reason to combat the combined threat of blu ray stand alones and the smal fraction of PS3 users that ourchase blu ray. What I see with HD-DVD is that they are having a firesale with thier hardware just to show to studio big wigs that they will sell more after getting a larger base of people with their low prices and their free movie offers. It smells like fear.
That being said, their strategy might work...... and I put a heave emphasis on might. When their base start to question why the disney, fox ,sony, MGM and lionsgate movies arent in the HD DVD aisle then the wave might change. If warner does go exclusive to BR( or HD-DVD) this format war will get really heated. I will continue to purchase Blu rays because of the built in feature of my PS3 but I am starting to wonder if I might have to buy an HD-DVD player later on down the road.
EDIT: I see all these combative comments but you do realize that if the majority of PS3 owners in the US were buying blu rays then BR should be way over 2:1 ratio with HD-DVD. I am not sure how it is happening in the rest of the world ( I hear blu ray is killing) but the landscape changing in america does affect me because blu rays are still regional.
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tom ass
- 6:02pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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olive is right people. when i saw the blu ray logo on the box i thought hmmm... derrr.... sony must be advertisin dat dare blu ray. then when i sent away for then received the 5 free blu rays i thought..... umm that dang sony really want i to buy dat dare blu ray machine.... olive is so intelligent... derrrr.... dumb''''
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Smpy4MrVengeance |
Smpy4MrVengeance- 6:21pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Well HD-DVD is in major trouble because Blockbuster said they are going to go Blu-ray exclusive.
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sorrow880 |
Sorrow880- 6:42pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Hmmm....if 13% are using their ps3 as a blu-ray player...and 4 million new ps3's are sold between now & the new year--That means 520,000 new blu-ray users will be on the market. Not a bad figure--in addition, the awareness level of blu-ray & # of HD TV owners will increase over the holdiays pushing that figure to 16-17% (@ a minimum)--making new blu-ray users around 640,000-680,000! Not too shabby for ps3 owners not using blu-ray. Then plan on adding another 450,000 stand alone blu-ray player sales over the holiday--that leaves a total of 1,090,000 to 1,140,000 NEW blu-ray users. HD-DVD plans on adding around 1 million new users this holdiay--looks like blu-ray plans for even more. The sales figures will change little. HD-DVD Retards.
@Staticneuron....
Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD around 4.0-4.5:1 in Europe and Australia
Blu-ray is outselling HD-DVD around 9:1 in Japan.
So worldwide blu-ray is TRULY knocking out...US it's a bit closer.
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standinside
- 6:43pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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What a retard? Ive used my blu-ray many times to watch movies, there are some post of people sayin they bought a ps3 just for movies. Jeez, dumb ass
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LittleBigPimp
- 7:00pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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13% of people watching Blu-Ray movies on their PS3 is still better then that 0% of Crashbox180 owners that watches HD-DVD on their system. Why? Because that thing uses an old last-gen DVD player and can't even play HD movies. EDIT: Ow wait, I forget that crappy HD-DVD addon drive which uses USB2.0 first and than output the signal via an analog cable. WOW, that will be high quality. /sarcasm.
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chimmy
- 7:07pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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I think the issue is most people owning a PS3, don't also own a HD-TV. Hence, yes, most PS3 owners don't play BRs... of course they know the machine can! Fact is ppl buy PS3 as a gaming console, not as a BR player- the PS3 is a cheap, poor BR player, in the same way PS2 was a cheap/poor DVD player... neither could outclass simularly priced stand alone players, and neither would be considered by movie buffs as their source player.
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Manganeez |
Manganeez- 7:18pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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I've met quite a few PS3 owners, and never one that didn't know it can play BD and DVD. Heck, I don't even know an Xbox360 owner who doesn't know the PS3 can do that.
The HD-DVD camp is desperate. If you compare their propaganda, it's clear that they're lying. On one hand, even though they don't dispute that Blu-Ray is outselling them left and right, they claim that what's more important is the number of discs bought by owners of stand-alone players, whining that BD purchases by PS3 owners skew the stats unfairly; now, on the other hand, they claim that PS3 owners don't buy BDs. Bah!
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meatee |
meateetj- 7:27pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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For me, movie playing ability has been a big factor in my console buying choices for quite a while. Back when I bought my PS2 on release day, I knew it could play DVDs, and it was my first and only DVD player for quite a while. The same thing is true now for the PS3, its my first and only Blu-Ray player, and part of my reasoning for plunking down the cash for the machine was the Blu-Ray playability.
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Clover09 |
whiteboykyle- 7:31pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Thats why he is called a HD-DVD expert, because he doesn't now anything about Bluray, and I wonder when he speaks does he realize he is making himself sound like an idiot. If he wants to be a HD-DVD expert he needs to have more publicity talking about HD-DVD not another way to try and make a stab at Bluray because right now he sounds more like a moron than a expert.
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AGB217
- 7:49pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Wow this guy is a moron, and does not show his proof of this. Everyone I know that has a PS3 over the age of 14 know its a Blu Ray HD player. I have 2 Blu Ray Movies and am buying Planet Earth this week.
Even my 10 year old cousin is getting a PS3 this Xmas and he said to me "I can't wait to play Spider-man 3 High Def on my dad's plasma tv". To my surprise, i just said you think your smart or something huh
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DaSaint |
DaSaint- 7:50pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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LOL!!!! What are these cats smoking....I been watching movies on my PS brand products since the PS2 and Im sooo loving the blu-ray and dvd playback on my PS3. Im pretty sure my PS3 have seen more T&A in the year its been out than he has seen in his lifetime...lol...
but if 13% use their consoles to watch movies and blu-ray is trouncing HD DVD, then imagine when the rest, Im not gonna say 87%, but 27%(40%-13% for the slow) start watching movies then its not gonna look good for his camp. And lets not even start talking about stand alone players, computers, car players and camcorders....wow..these guys might be in a pickle...
Actually instead of researching how many people use their ps3 for movies they should research how many people believe their xbox can play HD DVD out the box, you will be suprised, alot of people think so for some reason, i correct people frequently -
smatt584
- 7:50pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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This guy is a jackass. Everybody i know who would buy a PS3 cites Blu-Ray as one of the reasons. What i do see, however, is a ton of people who thought they could watch HD-DVDs on their Xbox 360's straight out of the box and were extremely pissed when they bought it and found out they needed a completely seperate machine. Microsoft, i'm sorry that you were so freaking greedy and stupid to choose the strategy that you did, but give it a rest. Nobody likes a sore loser.
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AGB217
- 7:51pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Oh and funny thing, I was watching this couple today shopping for a panasonic HD-DVD player today, and I tell my father Loudly,
"Dad look at that Sony Blu Ray Player, it's so expensive, meanwhile people can buy the cheapest Playstation 3 for only $379.99 (20gb) and have a blu ray player and a gaming console in the same thing, and its SONY"
I noticed the lady from the corner of my eye watching and listening, than as i finished and started to push the cart, i seen the lady quickly run to her husband and start pointing at me, the blu ray player, and most likely told him about the PS3" hahaha thats good stuff
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D3v1lwqer23
- 8:05pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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I own more BD movies than PS3 games myself...this dude needs to stick it in his gullet and choke on his words....I guess he missed the statistic that his precious HDDVD is being outsold nearly 3-1.
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swordfish64 |
Swordfish64- 8:08pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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It is widely accepted that the ps3 is one of the HIGHEST quality blu-ray players available, and with its frequent firmware updates, it will remain on the bleeding edge of the technology. So to 23, please don't post misinformation like that again.
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Uncool |
Admodistrator- 8:19pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Now thats just idiotic, that like saying no one knew the PS2 can play DVD movies when it came out too. :E Of course you can play it, read the damn manuel or look at the supported formats sheesh. Also with the amount of deals sony has with bundling Blu-ray movies on the PS3's 80gig, I think other major movie companies will make sure they take advantage of the holiday season to make specials deals as well.
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Untildeath89 |
willmakenewonesoon- 8:21pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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i use it just not much for brd, they dont rent it, anyways i used my ps2 for dvds until about 7months ago when something happend to my laser :P btw the dvd upscaler isnt there for decoration and some people get ps3 for multimedia and not just for gaming
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JMelillo57 |
jmelillo57- 8:21pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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This guy is not that bright. I think people know that these formats can be played on the PS3 and since the system usally comes with a Blu-Ray disc this guy is "bleeping" stupid.
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kudoshinchi |
kudoshinchi- 8:26pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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asking an HD DVD for an advince or consultant is most unwise thing to do
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lurkingshadow89 |
DEATH555666- 8:34pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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yes i must admit i didn't know about either till the court ruleing "Stupid VS Everyone". WHAT I FUCCKKING IDIOT
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djrussell |
djrussell89- 8:36pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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lmao! Expert? Yeah - since when? 60% my a*se.. everyone knows you can play DVD's on the PS3 - you could on the PS2. Everyone knows you can play Blu-ray on the PS3 and millions (myself included) DO play our movies on the PS3. Gee the amount of times ive used it when the tellie wasnt free to watch WHATEVER has been great. This guy is an absolute idiot.
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bnolan56 |
snowy311- 8:40pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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Ok how can they find these statistics? I know of 15 people at school who have PS3's and are using it for Blu-Ray and Dvd, along with me. Heck my Uncle bought a PS3 as a high definition player for blu-ray a week ago for his new plasma. This guy is just pmsing
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dummycrash
- 8:42pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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He's clueless. The first thing that I bought after my PS3 was a Blu Ray disc. The HD-DVD camp is in deep denial of their eventual fate. For the record I own 4 PS3 games, and 4 Blu Ray movies. That's a 50/50 split.
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Vaughn |
undacovabrothe- 8:42pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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I think that psu shouldnt even have posted such a stupid article... I mean just for the statement not that many people even know it can play dvds is totally an ignorant statement. 120millions+ ps2 sold and every1 knew it could play dvds... why cant ps3?? AND IT F8KN SAYS IT CAN PLAY BLUE RAY ON THE DAM BOX... Who would by something that doesnt know what they are buying. Also blue ray is not just for the gamers specifically but for the game devs. All games are created on blue ray discs so how could you not know. I would smack the shyt out of this person if i ever seen him in real life. Also maybe this guy is just mad he cant find good movies on HD-DVD and wants to spread bad propaganda but ohwell. His words will affect no1 and blue-ray will live on.
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DefTechPioElite |
Extreme_rkmn- 8:54pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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what was this survey even based on? how many people were surveyed? seriously. How come a company like Warner Bros can admit that 300 did so well on BD because of the PS3 owners, but these d0uchers cant? Whatever, the probably dont know snakes from di1d05.
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Staticneuron |
Staticneuron- 9:37pm GMT - November 3rd, 2007
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@sorrow880
nice numbers. I had a feeling blu ray was killing elswhere. Personally I think most of it can be attributed to the PS3.
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