Not enough space on Blu-ray for MGS4

Most people assumed that Sony's decision to use Blu-ray as its format on the PlayStation 3 was unnecessary figuring that few, if any, games would take advantage of the 25-50GB a disc could offer. Less than 3 months from its release, Hideo Kojima has now revealed that Blu-ray's capacity has limited what Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots could have been.

In an interview with Famitsu, Kojima revealed that Guns of the Patriots did indeed suffer cuts in order to fit the game onto a Blu-ray disc. The disc used for MGS4 is of the 50GB kind, which is roughly six times the capacity of a regular DVD, and the game has been skimped down as to only include local audio tracks and forced Metal Gear Online to be shipped on a seperate disc because of the lack of space. Kojima's actual quote (translated from Famitsu) was: "There's not enough space. We always talked about where to cut and what to compress."

The Metal Gear franchise has always been known for being dialogue-heavy, but MGS4 is set to outdo its predecessors. With the stunning visuals and the possibility of an extensive amount of dialogue outstripping even a Blu-ray disc, this should leave fans excited for the final product. This bit of news should also be enough of a deterrent for Xbox 360 hopefuls that keep hoping that Metal Gear Solid 4 will be defecting to the Xbox 360 because it would be hard to imagine the game being 6 discs long.

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  1. Chrisandmyps3 | chrisandsoccer

    • 1:37pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    good that it would be hard to port it to the xbox 360. i hope the game is god

  2. AZURA-DRAGON | Azura-Dragon

    • 1:39pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Konami! Do something!

  3. The Mask | JSack20

    • 1:49pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    wow that's dedication, i mean if they're strugleling to keep it below 50GB they must be making a good game. all the more reason to buy it :-D

  4. tuanny

    • 1:52pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    ha ha 2 xbox

  5. Petruccio

    • 1:59pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    They just want to sell MGS Online separately. I cannot see any reasons. There were rumours about MGS Online can head to 360 as well. I think that all that data is non compulsary, I mean non engine related stuff. Just look at Assassin's Creed huge open world. The art style of buildings is similar. Lots of codec talks can be compared to Mass Effeect, or even previous MGS. They want to get more money and Konami knows that even single player game will be sold.

  6. Alti | Alti

    • 2:08pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    psu, you already said this. We get it. All languages can't be fit on one disc. Big whoop.

  7. Philaroni | Philaroni

    • 2:09pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    There putting there heart and soul in to this game, we all know it, they wont leave anything out that would hurt the core game. The worst that can happen is maybe another large install like DMC4 and we might miss out on the next gen Snake Vs. Monkey :P

  8. Die-romantic | Demon_King

    • 2:12pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    there's no reason why to get mgs online for crashbox 3fixme for 5$ a week while most xbots can't slteath kill since they too much halo MGS Online will be packaged with MGS4 its bound to happen

  9. Falanx13 | Falanx13

    • 2:13pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    D@mn, now I want to know what they cut from MGS4. I really want to know what this game could have been like if they had 100GB to work with. *drools*

  10. D3v1lwqer23 | Falanx13

    • 2:22pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Metal Gear Solid 4: Subsisisentence, the first PS3 game on a 100GB disc, coming late 2009.

  11. Cesarcsrf | Cesarcsrf

    • 2:25pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    OMG a game with 50gb!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?! this gone be 1 of a kind!!!!!

  12. killercop | killercop

    • 2:31pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Niiicee... I smell 100 GB disc soon enough! :D

     

    @ Alti

     

    Yeah, bring us some real articles. Or just new ones.

  13. bnolan56 | snowy311

    • 2:35pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Damn I wonder how Killzone2 will fit on the disc then =

  14. DemonOfRazgriz89 | DemonOfRazgriz07

    • 2:51pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    my god... more than 50 GB?? and they said no game would ever fill that space for a few years yet... yea, good luck gettin that on the crapbox with 6 discs LAWL =D

  15. Syphon_Filter | Syphon_filter2

    • 3:02pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Then just make it  two disks and thats all.

  16. NoStop | Syphon_filter2

    • 3:18pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    6 disc's long wow ... kojima your a freak... i never thought any dev could fill out a 50gig blu-ray disc!!!!!

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    • 3:19pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

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  18. TwiSta | TwiSta

    • 3:28pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Can a mod ban this guy please ^^^^^^^^^

  19. Undying_Darkness

    • 3:30pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    PSU... do something about PKlove ^^^^

  20. brandonh33

    • 3:40pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    That is going to be so cool.  Maybe they will break out the disks with more layers in a year or so.  They can already make a 200gb blu-ray disk, we would just need a firmware update.  Doesnt sound like we will be getting those superdisks before mgs4.

  21. TwiSta | TwiSta

    • 3:40pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

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  22. Silentmom

    • 3:44pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    proves that 360 COULD never get this game

  23. LambBeast | LambBeast

    • 3:52pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    if its not enough just make 2 blu ray disks then lol DUH i should work for konami i would be rich.

  24. Deldwen | Deldwen1

    • 3:55pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    "but the space is bad!" - xbot

    if xbots think 25 gb's is to much... they just got owned soooo far up the a-ss cuz if sony wanted to/ needed to they could release a 200gb blu ray disc 8 layers.

    haha soooooo owned sooooo owned

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OWNED its not even funny. Imagine a 200gb game.... you could have an entire interactive country on there!!!!

    ( but im kinda p.oed i wanted mgs4 online on the disk... now we have to pay for a whole new game? gahhh )

  25. XtremeCoaster | XtremeCoaster

    • 4:03pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    I would have to ask Konami one question after reading this. Why not put the game on 2 discs? This way you would not have to cut anything out, because I would hate to know that they had to cut out environments or other key things just to get the game to fit on one disc. This game will still be awesome either way and is a must buy for PS3 fans.

    PSN ID: XtremeCoaster

  26. Jono-PK | Jono_2007

    • 4:04pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    unlucky microsoft  lol

  27. 1solidsnake | solid1snake67

    • 4:08pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    ::sighs in relief:::  now the box fans have to buy a ps3 if they really want it.  this game will be huge!!!!!!

  28. Ferre

    • 4:09pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Holy c**p is it a 50GB disc! Im impressed! :)

  29. gingo | gingo

    • 4:16pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    psn id: gingo... they really need to get that 100 and 200 gig disk perfected and get it out if developers are already filling up the whole disk in such an early stage in the ps3s life

  30. Untildeath89 | willmakenewonesoon

    • 4:19pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    you need more then firmware to read the disc that is gonna be 200 GB, 2 discs kinda destroys the "future" part even tho people wouldnt mind if the game was great, making it in one disc seems better feat. Btw having complete next gen offer even tho not more then 5% have high-end setup is good. Having sound is today as important as visuals so this game should be more then enough to amaze gamers genral. Im still dissapoint halo got 10 i wonder what great games that are atleast 2 times better then halo 3 will get. They had to destroy their ratings because of fanboys.

  31. prcko

    • 4:21pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Omg 50GB not eunough wtf?? this game gonna rock so hard!!!

  32. playstationfan4 life

    • 5:08pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    if this game evers goes to the 360 it going to be on 8 disc look at lost odyssey

  33. SmokeyDPS3

    • 5:09pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    impressive, speaks volumes to the game. The wording is tricky though, it has been translated that MGS online is packaged seperately, not necessarily sld seperately. Interested to see how that will pan ot, regardless I'll get both. You can't complain about a game famine and then not par take in the grand feast.

  34. Link64 | Link64

    • 5:25pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Killzone2 will use the 100gb blu ray disk & future games will follows shorty after.

  35. gamewaffle

    • 5:59pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    6 discs!?! thats worse than FFVII

     

  36. Uncool | Admodistrator

    • 6:18pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    They really couldn't have it any other way, just imagine if MMO's start doing this for the PS3. Now that would be hysterical. XD

  37. edward_moffet | edd

    • 6:21pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    omg i was watching g4 like 2 days ago and i was watching the loop on  attack of the show and they were talking about since sony won the format war if people should try ps3 especially with lineup in 08 and one of the idiots was like im just gonna wait for the 360 version of mgs4 because theres no way its gonna stay eclusive HAHAHAHAHAHA you r gonna being waitng a long time id1ot lol

  38. Babiloo | XavierHarkonnen

    • 6:39pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    conclusive proof mgs4 is never going to the 360

  39. Nosferatu

    • 6:50pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    I think mgs4 will satisfy most of us even if there wasnt enough space plus its an "Exclusive".

     

    On g4 last week last of february there was this journalist from iam8bit.com in the loop segment the host kev. p. mentioned to the guy yeah metal gear 4 is coming out in june it haves a release date is it anything your expecting.

     

    And then the journalist went on to say ill wait for a 360 version of the game to release and he was teary eyed lol and blushin since how it just came off way too fanboyish , and i was thinking um.. ok and how since hes that confident its going to be made then no problem with 6 to 8 discs and how he would think it was worth it because how they could fit everything onto every disc.

  40. VIPER-G1 | VIPER-G1

    • 6:52pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Well why doesn't Kojima just put the MGO disc in the MGS4 box. Does this mean we are going to need to buy MGO separately?

  41. Kenshin93 | FredFredBurger3

    • 7:23pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    damn it two blurays! NEW RECORD!!! hahaha i wonder how many dics will final xiii will have......3 hahaha

  42. AclayPS3

    • 7:36pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    Oh my God, I had no idea that MGS4 would use a 50GB Blu-Ray disc, I was thinking that it would only be a 25GB disc. Man, I can't wait for this. Plus, Hideo Kojima said that it would be a PS3 exclusive, and Konami confirmed that it would be a PS3 exclusive, yet Xbox fans still think it's coming to the 360... Ha ha ha!! If they want to get this game, they will have to get a PS3. I've always said that Metal Gear Solid 4 will be the game that will convert Xbox fanboys to PS3 owners.

  43. shaka | Shaka

    • 9:47pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    This will be the best game of 2008, Kojima really knows how to use the power of the PS3.

  44. Xdeth | Xdeth

    • 10:13pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    When I pre-ordered my copy of MGS 4, the employee at Game Stop actually had the balls to ask me for what system. I laughed and said, "The only system its coming out for, PS3". To which he replied, "Well they'll eventually port it to 360". I then reminded him of Hido's numerous anouncments of it being exclusive. To which he replied ," I don't even care, I dont even like the Metal Gear series". LOL you Xbots crack me up.

  45. Fingal_D | Fingal_D

    • 10:38pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    hot dog 50gbs. I love fanboys they crack me ^

  46. BigBoss11

    • 11:45pm GMT - March 3rd, 2008

    an thats y the xbox 360 is crap!! it would need 6 or more discs n plus they would hav to tone down the graphics too. so ppl who keep sayin mgs4 is coming to the 360 stop making stuff up and face the facts ps3 is better!

  47. InfernoReaper | GrimDarkling

    • 12:28am GMT - March 4th, 2008

    I wonder what size Blu-ray Killzone 2 will use...

  48. illicious | illicious

    • 12:57am GMT - March 4th, 2008

    What kind of game they making that woudlnt fit a 50GB BR disk? Thats real sick. Maybe a 2nd disk and split the game up or just reale the game on a 80 gb hard drive.

    Still, its kind of crazy to think theres already a game that doesnt fit a 50GB disk. They are starting to unlease sick power in the PS3 to the point where they will have to hold back a bit. Crazy.

  49. IONIXX | IONIXX

    • 2:04am GMT - March 4th, 2008

    wow, and HA take that xbots!

  50. smallvillefreak

    • 3:56am GMT - March 4th, 2008

    Why are people saying that Metal Gear Online is sold separately.  The starter pack is included with MGS4 and the DLC will be released later.  It says so right here:   http://www.psu.com/MGS-Online-starter-pack-included-in-MGS4,-DLC-will-follow-News--a2379-p0.php

    Just how Halo 3 technically comes with the matchmaking starer pack and the DLC maps were released later.  It's the same thing.  I don't understand how anyone who visits this site is complaining about buying metal gear online separately. 

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