Codemasters: Fuel's world could fill four Blu-ray discs

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While claims that the Xbox 360's DVD format is too small are becoming commonplace, you rarely hear of a developer pushing the boundaries of Blu-ray.

And yet Codemasters is doing exactly that. Apparently the publisher's upcoming Fuel - an open-world racer redolent of Mad Max - would exhaust four Blu-ray discs if it were created using "traditional" methods. That's according to Executive Producer David Brickley, speaking to Videogamer.com

"In the context of that map, which is one small corner of it, when the guys showed us this technology, if you were to build it in a traditional manner it would fill about four Blu-rays," he said. "A gargantuan amount of data, just enormous. The challenge for us was to say can we come up with a race experience generated according to an algorithmic rule set, procedural generation, which is of a standard that is indistinguishable from one that's been done by hand?"

To put the figure in context, Brickley likened the world of Fuel to that of Burnout Paradise. "I did a little Power Point internally to do it and it zoomed them in to each other," he said. "It's like a little postage stamp because I think it does like four kilometres or something." Fuel is reported to be 5,000 miles in scope.

The game is being developed by Asobo, and is due out on PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC in Q2 2009. It sounds, uh, big.

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  1. JD-82 | JD-82

    • 9:10am BST - September 25th, 2008

    ...awesome? so thats like what...10 DVDs for the 360?

  2. NDGO | ndgo

    • 9:13am BST - September 25th, 2008

    that would be awesome. i hope they can pull it off. tey should have an endurance race that cover the entire map

  3. gingo | gingo

    • 9:16am BST - September 25th, 2008

    psn id: gingo.... hmmmm i think they could be pushing the game a bit too far, sure it will be amazing if they accomplish but i think this game might be just too big

  4. Solrac | Solrac7688

    • 9:20am BST - September 25th, 2008

    I would love to see a company push racing to a entire new level

  5. Staticneuron | Staticneuron

    • 9:38am BST - September 25th, 2008

    @JD-82

     

    Since the maximum usable space is 7.5 gigs for a 360 DL-DVD try about 3 dvds per blu ray so it might be more like 12 DVDs.

     

    @gingo

     

    The are saying that it could have been 4 blu rays. It's not going to because they are looking to procedural generation that conforms to thier original intent and vision. Which will make the game MUCH MUCH smaller as assets would be replaced by code.

  6. bracomadar | bracomadar

    • 9:45am BST - September 25th, 2008

    Greetings from The Humungus! The Lord Humungus! The Warrior of the Wasteland! The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla!

  7. RuiyJR | Tseska_922

    • 9:51am BST - September 25th, 2008

    cool the weather effects (^o^)

  8. hesmanes | hesmanes

    • 10:23am BST - September 25th, 2008

    Hmmm i heard that sony have (i think) made a 4 layered Blu ray disc, so out with the 4 discs and in with the one.

  9. Shin-Karazu | shinkarazu

    • 11:06am BST - September 25th, 2008

    ....also, could you imagine the cost it would be to ship a 4-bluray disc game, it will never happen.  And seeing that its coming to Xbox, I dont think that it will be big enough.

  10. Solid_Squirrel | ZeroTheSquirrel

    • 11:50am BST - September 25th, 2008

    What does he mean by Traditional Methods? This seems like a VERY broad term he's using

     

    4 Blu-Ray Disc?

    How's this suppose to magically fit into a measly 8 gigs of space for the 360?

    This is just terrible PR here

  11. hush404 | hush404

    • 11:56am BST - September 25th, 2008

    Bull effin shat.

    Their either lying or horrible at developing video games, as any game that claims to fill up 200gb worth of space just for the map is redicliously bad at using resources.

  12. jodee | jodee

    • 12:12pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    im sorry but i call bluff...unless its fully uncompressed but even then has this game been in development long enough to flush out that much space to make driving that many miles worth looking at and mantaining somthing enjoyable or are we talking about mile after mile of nothing but sand and trees..i still dont buy it

  13. Denali2 | NEJI64

    • 12:20pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    if they was to make four disc blu ray game its no way this game would come out on 360. mainly because this game would have to be bult on PS3 and then it would cost to much to put it on 360. since M$ charge money for every dvd thats use.

  14. tanner1 | OB1K

    • 12:29pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    dvd; 9 gig

    blu ray; 50 gig

    do the math people, 6 dvd x 4 blu ray = 24 discs

  15. Staticneuron | Staticneuron

    • 12:53pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    @Solid_Squirrel

     

    Assets. Solid, artist created geometry and textures. Procedural generation is not magic. It just eshews assets for code. Code take up less space.

     

    @tanner1

    List the PS3 games currently pressed on 50 gig discs. Then you will understand why people are assuming they are talking about 25 gig disc. And the DRM on the DL DVD's for the 360 takes up 1.5 gigs.

  16. Merovingian

    • 1:23pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    He's just tossing up random things trying to generate more expectation to his product. He's mentioning completely irrelevante early development barriers, as it seems, already solved, that's just going to create rumours. And that's exactly what any PR would wish for an under-develoment product.

  17. Kulpa | Kulpa

    • 1:36pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    What!!?? wow

  18. digzz

    • 2:28pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    My Friend in the UK Get's to download all the New Beta Games, Socom,Little planet, ect ...DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW HE GETS THEM BETA GAMES ??? is it Qore ????

  19. Bigdoggy | Gypscrew

    • 2:32pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    I call the guy out on that one.  I think he should show us and make that game big to prove us wrong.  I don't believe that guy

  20. amk1111 | niceguy550

    • 2:38pm BST - September 25th, 2008

     if the amount of data is so enormous, how could fit into the 360 dvd???

  21. PS3fan78

    • 2:54pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    I don't get it? Early in the of the ps3, was talk about blue ray alot, some thing about brlue ray disc can be as big as 50,80,120 and 160gig, they also Mention they were to be release by early 2009.

     

  22. waynechriss

    • 3:06pm BST - September 25th, 2008

     By no means can this mean the game are compressed onto the Blu-ray discs. 

  23. deniled

    • 3:59pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    Are those screenshots of this game Fuel? It says MadMax style racing, why does it look like rally cars?? .....


  24. primalbreath | jdawg222

    • 4:18pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    @6........... what!!!!   are you talking about the band.  humungus with song wasteland, with like the fastest double bass ever????

  25. svtschmidt

    • 4:56pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    This sounds like a gimmick to hype a game that sounds uninteresting.  Racing on 4 Blurays?  Why? If it were a third person run and gun with driving in it I could see it taking up more space but racing?  I like racing as much as the next guy but I would think it would start getting boring.

  26. tanner1 | OB1K

    • 5:50pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    @ staticneuron; MGS4 for starters, go & have a chat with the Insomniac devs & find out how much resistance 2 is holding. Also ps3 version of Final Fantasy im sure will have more content unless of course they dumb it down

  27. TheWorldEndsWithMe | DonovanTheICEMAN

    • 6:08pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    Got a feeling this is garbage information, "using traditional methods" ? So like, if we dont ever compress any information anywhere then it would be massive, but since we are, itll fit just fine on a 360 disc? Thats like not news.

  28. Rauland | PPp_Killer

    • 8:22pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    possible but i no they will cut the games content to suit the 360

  29. Free_Agent

    • 9:11pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    This is hilarious. Codemasters will have released 3 full on racing games before GT5 ever even see's the light of day(and all 3 are multi-plat!!). Not only that, but Grid is a better game on many levels. It might not be quite as much a "simulator" but it is alot more fun, and it has DAMAGE! And the online play puts GT5 to shame. I think this game has a lot of potential, and will be something a little different than what's available.

  30. PS3-The Ultimate Machine

    • 10:06pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    A new developer eh?I'll have to keep an eye on this one,atleast until Pacific Rift:p

  31. IONIXX | IONIXX

    • 10:28pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    hahaha ohhhh mg....

  32. Staticneuron | Staticneuron

    • 11:01pm BST - September 25th, 2008

    @Tanner

    I knew the answer. Currently only 1 title out of 200+ is 50 gigs. Resistance 2 and FFXIII aren't even out yet. I was hoping you would understand why people still assumed that these devs were talking about the 25 gig disc.

  33. The_Sorrow_Gamer | The_Sorrow_Gamer

    • 2:11am BST - September 26th, 2008

    damn lie that will be a downfall for 360 alot,it will take up to about 12disk then...how they going to pull that off n plus blue ray got 50gb so it will take 2 XD n isn't blue ray working on a 200gb quad layer right now?

  34. Fijiandoce | Fijiandoce

    • 3:33am BST - September 26th, 2008

    but its still being made for the 360?? hmmm. well the dudes creating Rage were mad at using 3 DVD's.....hows this gunna work? are we gunna have to settle for a poorer game again(like rage). i hope not. and another thing, is he talking about the 50 or 25 GB discs?. metal gear filled 50...Resistance2 might be filling 50. if there talking about the 50GB disc then thats huge!! thats like 200GB!!. Well if that Hitachi(i think) company manage to get the 100GB disc in full production it'll only be two discs :)

  35. kenshiro

    • 6:50am BST - September 26th, 2008

    they wont be able to do 4 blue rays even in their dreams thats just a big talk for a poor quality making company

  36. D3seeker

    • 6:24pm BST - September 27th, 2008

    This is a very interesting concept. 4 Blu-Ray disks. What can be expected? Massive free roaming? Damage? Complex transforming cars and boss fights where the planet exploder then we get to fly around in the wrekage and have awesom intergalactic races across the UNIVERSE! I don't buy it unless all thats filling these 4 BLU-RAY disks or maybe they wilbe the first to utilize the higher capacity blu-ray disk.

  37. PS3sR2DEAR

    • 6:24pm BST - September 27th, 2008

    The last game I bought with multiple discs was shyte - MAABUS lol

    4x Blue Ray is a lot of levels or an overkill of detail, I would expect something like this for a Flight Sim, but umm

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