Industry analysts divided on PS3's chances of trumping Xbox 360
- Posted April 1st, 2011 at 09:55 EDT by Mike Harradence
- 16 Comments
Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter reckons the only way Sony will gain the upper hand on Microsoft in the on-going hardware race is to make significant cuts to the price of PlayStation 3 – something that he doesn’t see happening anytime soon.
Chatting with IndustryGamers, Pachter went on to observe that Kinect is spurring Xbox 360 adoption rates in the U.S., while PlayStation Move is continuing to underperform.
“The only way PS3 passes 360 is to be priced at a lower level, and I don’t see that happening,” said Pachter. “Microsoft appears determined to ‘win’, so I don’t see them allowing Sony to gain a pricing advantage, ever.”
Meanwhile, EEDAR’s Jesse Divnich believes that while the sales gap between Microsoft and Sony’s console continues to expand in favour of the former, he feels PS3 deserves a little more credit, and boasts the most active users to boot.
“As someone who isn’t afraid to claim winners and losers in this industry, I must say the PlayStation 3 never gets enough credit for its accomplishments. I don’t foresee being third-place this generation as the ‘loser,’” said Divnich.
DFC Intelligence’s David Cole also offered his two cents on the matter, believing PS3 has a shot at trumping Xbox 360 in terms of “active units” by 2014. However, Microsoft’s platform is poised to shift the most hardware overall, he noted.
“When we look at active units we see the PS3 passing the Xbox 360 in the U.S. in 2014,” he said. "However, the Xbox 360 is forecasted to have sold more units at that time…actually a slightly wider gap than today.”
Also optimistic on PS3’s fortunes was Billy Pidgeon of M2 Research, who stated Sony’s black behemoth could overtake its rival in a couple of years – that is, providing Sony can continue to churn out quality triple-A software.
“Speculatively, PS3 achieving a larger installed base in the U.S. is possible in two to three years, particularly in the event of Microsoft launching a next generation console in that time frame,” said Pidgeon.
“Of course, increased PS3 penetration is also contingent on Sony’s continued release of quality first party system selling games.”
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DrinkDayNnight
- 7:30am EDT - April 1st, 2011
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Who gives a fk about these analysts and what they speculate out their ahole.
Just play what you like.
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SerialNumber76
- 7:47am EDT - April 1st, 2011
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PS3 clearly has the better exclusive content going forward. Outside of Gears of War 3 there is nothing that big on the horizon. Kinect has given 360 a big boost but what I see as the two largest benefits of the Xbox are online (yes you pay but you it's quality) and multiplatform titles.
My favorite exlusives this generation have been Uncharted and Gears but outside of those Red Dead Redemption, Bioshock, Fallout, Dead Space, Borderlands and more have all been multiplatform games which look and run better on 360. Each of those games should look just as good on PS3but they never do. Is it because developers are lazy or don't have the money to put into PS3? Yes but that doesn't change the fact PS3 continues to get inferior ports of varying degrees. I believe this is what will keep Xbox going strong.
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Ergunno
- 12:33pm EDT - April 1st, 2011
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@SerialNumber76 Multiplatform games look worse because the Xbox 360 quality is the max they can get. They first make the games for the 360 hardware and then continue to make a PS3 port. All the multiplatform games in itself are the best that the Xbox 360 can handle.
An example I can give of a game that took the PS3 as it's base platform is FFXIII. They were gonna make it a PS3 exclusive but then Microsoft wanted it so some content has been taken out from the game in both versions, the game looks MUCH better on PS3 and the Xbox requires 3 discs to play the game. Because of this HUGE difference, I think that Sony will not be releasing the PS4 any time soon. Microsoft would want to release a new Xbox but I think that when they do, they might implement 3D, Blu-Ray discs are a must and better hardware. Sure, the Xbox's hardware will be better by quite a bit probably but the PS3 still has incredibly good features that I think will be what the next-gen consoles are going to get. -
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steviej
- 2:48pm EDT - April 1st, 2011
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@Ergunno
Nothing inprograming is ever the best as ways of programing are always improving.
As for the games, recently ME2 was compared on both consoles and despite the PS3 version using a new engine, the results were esentially the same with some liking the PS3 version being brighter while others like the 360 versions atmosphere and texture.
In the end this site made the following statement.
"We like
The high quality productions values. Simply put, this is one of the best looking games you'll ever play."
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mikeghtmare
- 4:03pm EDT - April 1st, 2011
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Didn't Pacther just recently said we should expect a price drop... he keeps making random statements, can't believe he gets paid for this.
As for the PS3 vs 360 here are my predictions:
The PS3 will continue its 'slow' road to success mainly because they want to push new technology by levereging the PS fanbase; similar to how they gave Blu-ray a push to take the lead, now they are doing the same for 3D-TVs. Remember Sony is a more complex corporation in that they make money on other devices; so they sacrifice some PS growth to give a push to other things where they profit.
But eventually the PS3 will catch up to the 360 (my guess is by this year's end), MS will release their next console, but PS3 will continue so we will see something similar to the PS2 and Xbox where the PS3 will be weaker than the Xbox-720, but will be more mature and much cheaper by then giving it the upper-hand (IMHO of course). -
pizzamonkio
- 5:21pm EDT - April 1st, 2011
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Is Michael Pachter the only market analyst or trend forcaster in the world?
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SerialNumber76
- 5:36pm EDT - April 1st, 2011
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@Ergunno - I agree with most of what you said, sorry if I made it sound like I didn't understand the limitations of the 360. There have been MANY times where I'm playing something like Gears, Red Dead, Bioshock and thinking to myself... "this would have been so beautiful had it been built for PS3 from the ground up."
I can't even imagine seeing something like Bioshock with Uncharted, GOW or Killzone level of quality. I had picked up Bio, Red Dead and Dead Space when I decided to put the Xbox up on eBay this week because I still wanted to play those games and they are pretty cheap now used. It's made me hesitate on selling the Xbox because they just don't measure up. Red Dead (my personal GOTY) is just plain ugly on PS3.
I'm hoping that the continued success of PS3 and slowing down of 360 (outside of Kinect) will start giving developers incentive to take more care with the PS3 counterparts.
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Beasley2K
- 9:01am EDT - April 2nd, 2011
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Michael Pachter does realise you pay for quality, right?
The reason the PS3 is more expensive is because it has better quality hardware and is therefore a better quality console. That is why the price gap isn't small. This guy is an idiot.
People can continue to buy the cheaper 360, but at a great sacrifice. They get what they pay for. If they want to be cheap, they can; but they better know that they're not getting the best.
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jaynet333
- 5:48pm EDT - April 2nd, 2011
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I just gotta laugh. Every time the topic of sales comes up, pathetic xbot fanboyism rears its ugly head. @DrinkDayNnight, you hit the nail on the head. Unless you've got some kind of stake in either company, who cares? The fanboys need to stop getting their panties all up in a bunch. Relax, and just enjoy your console of choice. ;)
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