J1gs4w | d3v1ldr1v3r

• 8:56pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 51

Stupid terrorists.  Stay in the middle east and I will feel better.  This means extremists Somali's too.  Screw you.

IONIXX | IONIXX

• 8:59pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 52

oh my god nooooooo (faints)

Fingal_D | Fingal_D

• 9:26pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 53

ok, fine with me, um wow we don't know the actual lyric. That is what I call quality control! Obviously GTA would not factor in this discussion, Rockstar's goal is to offend as many people as possible. They usually succeed in that genre.

PROTOTYPE

• 9:29pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 54

haha some people complain about the stupidest things. who cares about world hunger or finding a cure for cancer, just make sure you don't quote the qu'ran in a song on a video game.

Terrabit

• 9:56pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 55

Man, I hate political correctnes with a passion. This is so freaking stupid that's not even funny.

Xandure | Xandure

• 10:41pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 56

wow hopefully they recycle the discs thats alot of plastic

gingo | gingo

• 11:04pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 57

psn id: gingo.... fair enough its not that big a problem but at least its only a week its been delayed by its not the end of the world

Fatso | Fatso

• 11:07pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 58

I guess everyone that says its only three days dropped out of elementary school.  From the 21st to the 27th is clearly six days.

Ocelot1987 | METSTM

• 11:32pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 59

Wow Sony really cares about its customers. I can't believe they would switch all the discs just to please Somalia gamers. I don't think there are that many of them and changing all those discs is a major loss of profit because of the production. I don't think 6 days is a really bad wait though. I'm enjoying Dead Space now and have plenty of other things to do with myself in the meantime.

Fenix | Faenix1

• 11:54pm BST - October 17th, 2008
• 60

@1 and 2, keep your shirt on damn, The lame game will come to you soon. And GTA4 was a *gasp* M rated game.. this is  *gasp* not a M rated game..

SonyJunkie | Bender6191

• 12:35am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 61

It is not that long, people ca wait for it. I will not be purchasing this game because there are games that I am more intersted in coming out. Not saying that LBP isn't going to be amazing, I just want the others more.

adeebo | adeebo22

• 12:56am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 62

markwesker, u tell me to F@@@ off?? lol im really not surprised of u saying that, cuz thats ur level, and i wont get myself to your level, i really feel bad for u.

GunTeng

• 1:19am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 63

I think this is a good call.

So what its been delayed until the end of the month...I'm still getting it.

I'm glad to see they are not ignoring the many people who do not have access to the internet.

For the many people who would just start flaming other religions as the cause of this, get a flaming grip. LBP is a game for everyone...its not just a game for western gamers...it has no boundries. So a song that sets boundries is not good for the game. And if you cared about the game as much as you would like to pretend, then you would shut up with the idiotic remarks.

Kyubi | Black-Cell

• 2:01am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 64

OMG people saying respect to sony for recaling this game

yeah right bunch of morons for giving in to this bulls**t.

what will be the next game to get recalled or delayed for a religious reason?

 

p.s. what would have happened if sony just released it anyway, do you seriously expect riots would break out, or that so many would boycott the game, don't think so.

StoneDogAiel

• 2:48am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 65

How offensive could it be? In GTA you walk around and beat people to death. This PC nonsense is tiresome.

bracomadar | bracomadar

• 4:57am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 66

I blame lawyers.  I bet their lawyers decided that it be best that they did this.  Lawyers have been making money off of people being offended for years now.  They go on to be politicians that write laws in the books so more lawyers can have more stupid cases they can make money off of.  Political correctness and censorship has done nothing to fix the problems of the world.  Has it done away with injustices based on race, religion, or gender?  NO!  It just stirs up more hatered and makes adults who the react to the "offensive" comments look like immature children.   Worst of all, it has stirred up fear.  People are affraid to speak their mind, because it might offend somebody.  They are afraid they'll get labeled a biggot, or racist and lose their job and be an outcast from society.  Is this the kind of world we want to live in?  Stuff that needs to be said isn't always pretty.  If somebody says something offensive to me, I tell them why they're wrong.  I don't go demanding an appology, or call my lawyer.  If they truly feel sorry about what they said, they should appologize without being told to.  If they aren't, then I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.  In the end, I think a person's right to say whatever they feel like, nomatter how stupid/offensive, is a lot more important than my personal feelings.  I don't know why they didn't do a voluntary recall where anyone who couldn't get the patch online could exchange their old version for a fixed one...IF THEY WERE OFFENDED AND REALLY WANTED TO!  Well, at least it wasn't pushed back for months over this whole ignorant mess. 

od6936 | od6936

• 5:14am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 67

This definitely sux.  HOWEVER.....to the poster selfish......  I dont think Sony and MM are gonna base their decisions on the fact of your "wife and 2 kids & a budget" type situations.  They gotta do what they gotta do hahaha.  No flaming on you,I am just throwing that out there

I suppose ther are alot of PS3's in Somalia....????....hmmmmm just kidding

HalfOfZero | HalfOfZero

• 5:27am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 68

You probably wont see this, but 67 is a great post!!! PC terms have never made things easier, we have to keep our mouth shut incase we get labelled for our opinions, so we get mad at the government for puttin this crap on us, and while we're at it, may as well get mad at the ones we have an opinion about in the first place and then speak yer mind and after the storm, get labelled a biggot... Well I do love a good ol' riot, when's the next one?

bloodwarg | bloodwarg

• 5:43am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 69

well its good its only a week delay well done. and not the 3 weeks which was feared. only problem is that when this and fallout 3 come it will be fallout 3 in my hard drive first!

Staticneuron | Staticneuron

• 6:04am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 70

@ 67

 

Stop..... and really think about this.

 

Why has society become like this? Do you seriously think it was a brain storm between a couple of lawers that brought this about or the more darker and apparently easily forgotten past of the free nations?

 

zakruz | zakruz

• 6:32am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 71

@16: It's 6 days for the US and 7 days later for Europe..

Strudel | Strudel

• 6:34am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 72

I'm amazed that Sony took control and made Mm recall the game and make new discs without the song. Also love it that the lyrics are in somalian, an Afrikan language and that the offensive material is offensive to Muslims, I mean, how many Muslims speak Somalian?

MAX PAYNE | RoaringHawk

• 6:39am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 73

So everybody are attacking muslims now for this. What if it had lyrics that was against America? What would you say then?

Everyone can critisize muslims based on the actions of extremists, but not one person can say anything bad about America.

You all should be praising Sony for taking this action this fast. Also, it's not like it's a month delay or something.

Staticneuron | Staticneuron

• 6:42am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 74

Strudel, Islam is a religion, 20% of the worlds population (1.3 billion) follow that religion. I hope you understand that your race, country of origin, and culture has no bearingon what you choose to believe. If I interpret what you are asaying correctly you are assuming that all muslims must speak arabic? That manner of thinking is like all chrisians must speak english. it just isn't true.

teevanator | teevanator

• 6:52am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 75

whats all the fuss about? just WAIT for 4 more days and play something ELSE...jeezues

AdamDW | AdamDW

• 7:10am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 76

so that guy that claimed he had it early like a week ago was lying, he was in brooklyn NY btw! And to think i believed him :(

lightseeker62

• 8:37am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 77

i am a muslim and i really respect sony for doing this and i say this to whoever says that muslims are terrorists: how are we terrorist while you killed more than 500000 people in japan and 1000000 people in vietnam and many more in iraq and afghanestan?

sicilian77

• 9:32am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 78

Here are two basic questions for Sony:

1) Has Sony confirmed that the lyrics in question, which apparently are in Somali, are indeed from the Quoran? While a poster on the European forum claimed that they are, his account vanished shortly thereafter. Has Sony brought in an independent expert to verify this?

2) Has anyone contacted the composer, Toumani Diabaté, to hear his side of this story? This fellow is a celebrated musician throughout the world, including parts of the Muslim world. I personally find it very unlikely that he would do anything to "desecrate" or "blaspheme" his own religion, or the religion of much of his fanbase. Someone should ask him about the lyrics in question, and whether or not they truly are from the Quoran.

Could it be possible that the controversial phrases aren't really from the Quoran in the first place, and that this whole thing is based on a misunderstanding???

HUSKUMS | HUSKUMS_NUT

• 10:54am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 79

so an "offensive lyric" will stop a game coming out but you know in COD4 and all those other modern shooters when your SHOOTING muslims and terrorists its not offending to them....seriously grow up its a WORD mute of skip the song my goodness

bracomadar | bracomadar

• 11:23am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 80

@71

I don't know if I quite understand the second question, so if I don't quite answer it, please forgive me.  I'm not saying that it's some big lawyer conspiracy.  People want what they see as justice for themselves, and lawyers or politicians jump on board and make things happen.  As the old saying goes "the road to h*** is paved with good intentions".  Usually freedom gets shoved aside because of a sad story of injustice, or bad turn of events.  If somebody gets shot in a robbery and paralyzed for life, does that mean we should outlaw all guns?  Some would think yes.  I think that is wrong.  I feel sorry for the man who got shot, but his misfortunes of somebody treading on his right to live in peace does not give him a free range to tread on my right to own a gun.  Instead of society having the mindset of "let's not outlaw this, because some people deserve their freedom", we as a society, sometimes let emotions and our own morals get in the way of freedom sometimes.  I'm not saying emotions and morals are bad, but when they cross with freedoms, they can be.

 

I kind of got sidetracked from the topic and made this a bigger issue than it is, but just to get back to the topic of the LBP recall, I think it was a lawyer's decision, or advice that prompted the recall, not the people who made the game.  That was really what I was trying to get across.  It's not like the where the game is really glitched and the programmers really think it needs to be recalled to work right.  I'm just wondering if they are really sure that's what it's saying?  I mean, did they get a translator and make sure that's what it's saying?  Maybe the person heard wrong.  You know, some people think that CCR singing "there's a bad moon on the rise" is "there's a bathroom on the right" :)  I would like to know more details.  Personally, I think they should replace it with Johnny Cash's "When the Man Comes Around".  I'm a Christian and when he quotes the Book of Revelation in that, I'm not offended.  I think it sounds awesome.  Of course Islamic culture is different that mine, so who knows exactly what they find offensive.

Staticneuron | Staticneuron

• 11:51am BST - October 18th, 2008
• 81

bracomadar

 

I find it awesome that you say that. At least you can say that you don't understand what they find offensive. And I think that is the first step towards peacful discourse with everyone. I am sorry but I am not a religious person but I think that hearing people talk this way is just hurling more hatred at our differences then trying to get around them and understanding.

 

Now I think you are looking at this the wrong way.  Sony has had games that can be considered very offensive before. I think that they are making the choice of message that they want to put across in game and  considering consumer backlash more than lawyers. Sackboy looks like it appeals to kids, and if it had shipped with a song that had the lyrics "Every soul shall have the taste of death'" and "All that is on earth will perish" in my country if they ever found out what that meant i could see alot of angry parents. Even worse is it being lyrics from the quaran. In my country there is a huge hatred for anything muslim so that would just make people angrier if they found that out.  Sony is just erasing a target from their backs.

Playstation_3 | U83R_1337

• 12:06pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 82

What exactly are the "offensive" words spoken or "sung" and by what artist?

Anyone???

Staticneuron | Staticneuron

• 12:43pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 83

The words were in my post above.

 

Every soul shall have the taste of death'" and "All that is on earth will perish"

 

Which is odd because the song sounds more uplifting than dramatic.

psycho_mantis | makaveli_71

• 1:25pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 84

why does europe get games after US?

pizzamonkio

• 1:38pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 85

i think the only reason a somalian would have a ps3 is if they got it from pirates or maybe there one of those "warlords". why do muslims have to be so offended by everything? and i find it funny that they want to be veiwed as peaceful people but everything seems to make them so enraged? once again religion ruins something else that has nothing to do with religion.... at least this didnt start a war.

Wolf873

• 2:57pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 86

@83, words are not actually offensive from what I've seen. The offensive part is that they are supposedly taken from Quran, which if incorporated in music is blasphemous because music is restricted in Islam. That's like an insult in ones face. It's a good thing that Sony is rectifying their mistake otherwise it would be terrible for their business.

xBSGeorge | xBSGeorge

• 3:24pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 87

I think its worse that so many people are crying over a 1 week delay then the offensive material itself.  Are you really destroyed personally and emotionally over this announcement?  If this is the case it is time for you to find a new hobby.  Afterall this is what gaming is, its not a life choice, its not a style of living, its a hobby.  Unfortunitly we now live in a world where its ME ME ME. I dont get what I want so I am going to cry about it.   If you are hurt by this its time to grow up, it one week people, get over yourselves and your selfish attitudes.

xdbuix

• 5:05pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 88

 i'm so sadddddddd

adeebo | adeebo22

• 5:35pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 89

@ 80, cod4 Wasnt offending u know ehy, cuz they didnt mention anything about religion, it was the U.S forces attacking teeroists(but they didnt connect terrorists with muslims) and thats what i loved about the game.

back to LBP i think now the game will appeal to more poeple and i hope everyone enjoy the game, and i apologize for any comment that may have offended anyone, all i said was to give my opinion( a muslim's point of view). i raise the white flag loool :p.

anyways i think that psu should have like a small section for lbp where u can show the level u created and then choose the best and give out an award... that would make it mre competitive u know :)

CSUPSU

• 6:51pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 90

@ 42...you've GOT to be joking, right?...I can't think of too many games that HAVEN'T been offensive to Christians in one way or another...only difference is, we don't delay games because of it... I commend Sony for the action taken...I also agree with the guy in the other topic who said somethin' about the Letter-Writing-Guy finding a few words offensive in COD4, yet he's perfectly OKAY with shooting another guy's brains out in virtual reality...

Playstation_3 | U83R_1337

• 7:30pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 91

Bizarre that you can sing about Hos and drugs and gangsters and guns and shooting people but you cant say that? we really need to rethink whats going on in this world. because only a very small amount of people will be offended about that, but people are offended about most things but the world dont stop and it sells,,,,,,,,

Rauland | PPp_Killer

• 7:32pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 92

more more more were so close of getting 2 article having more than 100 posts in a row :D but seriously if they take out 1 song there might be a chance that the game could stuff up or become glichy so they dont want 2 take chances

Audiman44 | audiman44

• 9:24pm BST - October 18th, 2008
• 93

Maybe they should just not release that version in Somalia and surronding areas.  Also, any new discs would be fixed.  That is going to be a lot of waste throwing away tens of thousands of discs!!!

Byuu | Midget

• 3:23am BST - October 19th, 2008
• 94

i don't get it, there are plenty of games out there that use bible texts and quotes in them, and yet no one jumps all over that, but the moment a muslim gets angry, they bend over backwards.

Free_Agent

• 4:34am BST - October 19th, 2008
• 95

Hey Sony, you suck fat monkey balls. This game is the only positive media attention you will recieve this year, don't ruin it. You already F****d up the Socom franchise with your sorry excuse for an online network, so please just let this be. Just release a patch to solve the issue. It's actually sad that you have to delay one of the 2 decent exclusives you have just because of some lyrics. I guess even Sony knows that a offering a mandatory patch on release is just too much to ask. Nothing else I can do but feel sorry for Sony. Honestly, is this something that they couldn't possibly have seen coming?

chomperbull

• 6:28am BST - October 19th, 2008
• 96

stupid muslim terrorists sony should have degraded ur religion even more dumb cr@p like this makes me want to take a dump on ur praying rugs

princevegeta1980

• 9:51am BST - October 19th, 2008
• 97

We'll I think the guy that wrote the lyrics is gonna be out of a job a better hide from every muslim and somalian he has insulted. I personnaly think that all this topic suçk§ and that people should stop complaining and get a life and try to live a better life in harmony with others on the planet, we are at the end ALL HUMAIN!

AWAKE

• 12:33pm BST - October 19th, 2008
• 98

  @ 98 u know ur stupid right ??? and u know what scares me when u say stuff like that !!! how stupid the youth have become.so u think by dissing one religion u will be a religious guy in urs .newsflash  pansy WE (CHRISTIANS,JEWS,MUSLIMS)worship the same god,u idiot..and believe u me that when u say stupid stuff like that nobody and i mean nobody except stupid whitetrash like ur self will listen or respect anything u say u stupid S.O.B. CHEERS Y'ALL

Chaozhoutiger | Teochewtiger

• 12:49pm BST - October 19th, 2008
• 99

All I got to say is, "ITS JUST A GAME"!! Calm down, seriously. I already paid for this game in full and I not pissed. Stop with all the hate.

Falanx13 | Falanx13

• 1:49pm BST - October 19th, 2008
• 100

So stupid... So there were verses from the Qu'ran mixed into a song on LBP. They were innocently put to music with no disrespect intended, and then a few of the really crazed Muslims scream 'OFFENSIVE!' and Sony bows out.

Maybe next they'll riot because girls in video games don't wear burkas. Curse the west for letting a girl show her face!