Speaking to Pocket-lint, electronics giant Samsung has claimed that the Sony-sponsored Blu-ray format will be dead in five years.
"I think it [Blu-ray] has five years left," commented Andy Griffiths, director of consumer electronics at Samsung UK. "I certainly wouldn't give it 10." The reason? In five years time Samsung thinks downloadable distribution will reign supreme.
It wasn't all doom and gloom though. Griffith said that 2008 would be Blu-ray's golden year, citing cheaper Blu-ray players and the victory over Toshiba's rival HD-DVD format as justification.
"It's going to be huge," he told Pocket-lint. "We are heavily back-ordered at the moment."
The entertainment industry's transition to downloadable distribution is widely considered inevitable, but just how will this affect Sony's projected ten year PlayStation 3 life cycle? Will slowing Blu-ray sales have a knock-on effect on PS3 unit sales, as the console's built-in Blu-ray player becomes less of a commercial asset? Or will PS3's built-in storage space offset the growing obsolescence of its Blu-ray component?
Let us know in the comments below.

STFU samsung... thats why im getting rid of ur piece of trash cellphone this week. blu ray will have the same life spand as the CD and DVD... FOREVER. only its vastly superior.
no i prefer owning it in a physical form then a electronic form that way i can take it to friends houses, or on trips, blue ray is not dead its here to stay. :)
rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when i can download a HD movie in 5 mins and had a copy posted to me to keep on my shelve i will then be interested. Until the i will be ordering on Play.com
rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when i can download a HD movie in 5 mins and had a copy posted to me to keep on my shelve i will then be interested. Until the i will be ordering on Play.com
impossible
even though after 5-7 years we'll see ps4
I highly doubt that downloadable distribution will beat Bluray, mainly because it takes forever to download 10 gigs let alone 60.
Even with increasing internet speeds, I'd rather have something tangible in my hands for the money I spend, like a cd,dvd or a blu-ray disc. What happens if my hard disk dies ? like they do. I don't want to download all of my films again. If this is true I can see film companies etc no longer letting people purchase their items but let the view them on a pay-per-view basis and that would suck big-time.
I would stop gaming and watching movies once discs become obselete. (To many negatives, IMO)
psn id: gingo.... i think consumers will still want a hard copy of a movie or game for years and years to come and can only see digital distribution as an alternative means not the only way
Either Blu-Ray stays strong, or a new disc will come out. It will take decades for digital distribitution.
This is so stupid, digital distribution actually makes little to no sense. To download and keep all of your new and old movies would require more and more space as time goes by. Every time you get enough movies to fill your hard drive you have to drop another $100-$200 for a decent sized hard drive. I don't know about you, but not having to get up and put the disc in myself is not worth $200!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
didnt somebodyin gaming said the samething i cant see that happing just yet. downloading content such as movies, games, music are still making a base for its self. besides getting droping software like cds' for stright downloading content would belike getting rid of cash for good for credit cards in five years its not going to happen.
First, is Samsung going to sponsor my 15-20megabit connection so that I can stream HD movies?
Second, its hard to buy HD movies now because distributors are too worried about people copying their stuff... Good luck with that
Third, its entirely too expensive to buy movies right now. I can rent HD movies cheaper locally than I can on any of the online services now.
Get the price down, internet speed up and the space to store the 100s of movies video enthusiasts collect and you may have a deal. Thats still a good 10 years down the line at the very least.
Andy Griffiths, YOU ARE AN IDIOT! The PS3 has the video store! and you can download games from the PSN. I'd like to see anything Samsung makes be as good as the PS3. Obviously, Andy Griffiths doesn't keep up with the news.
Is samsung retarded? dont get pissed of just because Sony came up with Blu-Ray and you stupid Koreans cant think of anything. download distribution, will never beat out any kind of hard copy. bluray itself might die in a few years but only to some other hard copy form, how long has the cd been out and it is still very popular. dvd is still bigger than bluray, even though bluray is slowly taking over. people dont have the time to wait 3 hours for a 2 hour movie to download. i personally would never buy a digital version of a movie just because of all the stuff that could happen to a hard drive especially with microsoft's awesome programming skills
@ 13, well I wrote up an article on this very topic last month http://www.thecareergamer.com/?p=358 it was posted on N4G. And I'm in awe that a hardware vendor would spout such unintelligence. I can't believe he's speaking on behalf of Samsung.
Honestly samsung needs to shut their mouth because it seems that they are favoring microsofts plan for downloadable distribution. The only problem i have with downloadable distribution is the fact that it takes a really long time to download, Bluray is the best thing out here and the only company that knows the legistics is SONY
TBH the internet is growing at an exponential rate, however the number of people who have access to high speed internet is still very low. I myself only have 2MB Broadband, I can't get it any better where I live, and 2MB broadband can't even host a Warhawk game over 4 players, and can only download at 200kb/s, so if samsung think that High definition quality downloads are going to be the norm in 5 years, then think again, it'd take me all day to download a movie!
Downloading a HD movie is a joke. Look at the recent news from Comcast about regulating how much data can be downloaded in one month, 10 gigs. Come on, this is a setup to pay more money for more bandwith.
the internet is still too expensive and not wide-spread throught out the world (for fast speeds I mean), so there is no way in h e l l... plus then there is the plus of owning a hard copy which I, like many, prefer.
Plus, you have a lot of companies that make money off of it so they won't just let it go. True that some people might start going the download route, but it won't be too many and certainly not enough to cause the death of blu-ray
sigh no, it wont happen too many things can happen to digital content, even in 5 years space will be a factor for HD content and no one likes DRM, plus they are capping bandwith speeds and what if your power shuts off or you get disconnected or whatever system you have it on crashes plus i highly doubt mainstream consumers will want to pay for something that you can only use on one player (DRM) and you cant control physically, i think that blu ray and digital downloads will both have their place in the market in 10 years even digital downloads will surely become more popular but they will by no means replace a physical format
This is crazy.Does this mean Samsung is going to pay for my internet service when they charge me for going over my bandwidth limit?
You guys are all redarted. available internet bandwidth will continue to expand until we all receive everything electronically. phone, cable TV, movies, mail, internet. Dont be short-sighted just because you dont have it now. Its not a question of whether it will happen, its when. Concerning the need to have it on disc so you can hold it or take it to your friends house or caress it or whatever- equally restupulous. Consider that by the time we can all easily download a HD movie, we will all also have an i-phone-type device (note I said "i-pod-like"- it will be much more capable) that you can save hundreds of movies to, surf the web from anywhere, watch tv, make calls, transfer bank accounts, download music and movies, etc. Stored with your precious movies, you will have access to color images of the cover art, detailed data on the actors, interactive information about the movie. In short, in your hand you will have WAY more informatin than is available in a special edition blu ray or DVD. And yes, you can take it to your friends house and watch it. All without having to carry around a stupid case so you dont scratch the disc.
Digital distribution to the point of replacing physical media that soon is a joke. I'm sure the publishers want it (they lose money every time someone sells an old movie they don't watch anymore), but we are a fairly long way from the point where everyone has enough bandwidth to make this feasible.
We've had legal (and illegal) digital distribution of music for years now, and CD's aren't even close to disappearing. And mp3s are thousands of times smaller that HD movie files would be (even compressed without PCM sound and whatnot).
it may not last a full ten years as the main entertainment format but i think that it will be hugely successful as a disc format for PC storage and distrbution for software and things just because it has so much more storage space than DVD
Samsung has lost it big time. Lack of foresight will cost them a lot.
Movie and game downloads will not overtake physical media. There are several reasons. Many people get tired of their games and movies and in turn sell/trade them. Selling your rights to a game or movie may be more difficult to do. Also, hard drive space. I don't know about all of you. But I don't have enough space on my hard drives on all of my computers for all of the games and movies that I have on disc. Until the average gamer and movie watcher has a storage server with multi TB capabilities I do not see this as a viable option. I see downloaded movies and games to be there for purchase but not as the main means. I feel that as rentals downloads has a great future. Not too mention the ability to take it with you and the fact that many US internet companies are starting to limit bandwidth and downloads. Just think about how fast a 250GB limit would be used up if you downloaded, say, 2 50GB games that are played online only, and say 4 HD movies.
i thought cd's would never die, but i havent bought one in years...i keep my whole music collection on an external 160 gig hard drive. i sold all 300+ cd's i owned.
now my 10,000+ album collection is all stored and organized on a simple hard drive...no scratched discs, no friends borrowing it. car stereos now have usb connections. I see this happenning to movies within 10 years.
The only way downloadable content will ever work is by the following:
1. It's cheaper than it's packaged form and by more than a few dollars (Sony with there downloadables on PSN and disc looking your way.) $10 diffrence isn't worth it.
2. Internet speeds that are capable of downloading within the time it takes to download an album 5mins, but no more than 10.
3. Cheaper internet, everyone with internet access, everyone with some way to pay online, because without it you miss out on people with no means to by your product. And that could be a lot of people if you kill of hard copies.
4. The ability to transfer your digital copy to a hard copy because without that how would you make way for new media keep buying internal/external hdd's, as opposed to the cheaper disc.
Without these things in place I fail to see how anyone can think digital distro will overtake physical copies.
Im with bmatt on this.
Im wondering if Samsung are going to pay for the telecommunications infrastructure to save the cunsumers the massive rise in cost for their BB connections.
The disc format is the only factor that is shared on a global scale.
In 5 years if everything retails on download, its going to cause such a strain that the Konami MGS4 beta issue will look like a gamers dream. And this is also forcing all gamers to pay for an internet connection...get real. This is nothing but a great way to take gaming back to the priveleged elite, which will cost cost console manufaturers & developers dearly.
These people are seriously deluded. Its one thing to improve the hardware to allow faster speeds, its quite another to update the infrastructure.
5 Years my backside.
We are looking closer to 20 years before the internet, ISP's & BB speeds are capable of withstanding the strain of global game sales..and that is optimistic.
So BR has much longer than 5 years...idiots. lol.
This sure is a sore market. I don't think Sony was saying Bluray format will last 10 years or that is was future proof. They where betting on PS3 as a gaming system as well. They also didn't say that PS4 wouldn't come out during that time either. Like PS2 support will go strong for PS4 through 10 years. I just don't understand when you in the business to make a profit off a product and they shoot negative comments like this one. I mean don't Samsung sell Bluray players and one of the first ones to do so besides Sony. Jeez
Samsung? who even trust in these people.
Well this would be rough now that almost every ISP in the US is putting caps on the connections. Some only being 8 gigs and Comcast with the highest 250 gigs a month. So distributers will need to talk to ISPs if they want people to be able to download thier movies. I am with everyone else on I want my physical media. As for PS3's 10 year plan this has nothing to do with it. It is physical median that holds games, cartridges went out long time ago but Nintendo still uses them on their sucessful DS.
Well even though I don't agree with the guy....his opinion doesn't change my view on Samsung as being "one" of the best HTDV manufacturers. Really....my 550A series hdtv is the best. Samsung HDTVs FTW lol
Had this convo be4 and untill you can download games n films in hd in a few minutes then the physical format will be the most popular.Dont see super fast broadband speeds happening world wide 2do this and it has to be world wide to have the same sales u would as the physical format. maybe in 10 or more years from now probly more untill the whole world has net speeds that can handle that.
Thats not true this will last so much longer thank that
@RagingStorm
Yes, I agree with that completely. I believe they also make one of the best stand alone blu-ray players as well. I don't see why everyone cares about this blu-ray debacle? It's not going to hinder the PS3 even if downloadable content takes over. It's definately going to happen, and probably within the next 5-10 years. Regardless, yes I do prefer physical media now, but by the time digi distribution takes over, there will probably be a feasible manner in which to backup or restore your content if something were to fail, as this is the big argument that everyone has. I don't see why so many people start going for the throat when someone makes a comment about blu-ray and these people start assuming it as a personal attack on the PS3, and start lashing out. It's embarassing to be associated with owning a ps3 these days because of jackholes like you guys.
I rather have the phisical aspect of the media. It makes alot more sence.
@jack hammers
How do you know all this oh you made it up and we dont care for your comment
We are talking about the next five years, internet speeds have hit a wall in the last fewf years nothing has really improved and I doubt we will be seeing 25gb films in the next five years that download that quick.
If you ask me digital distribution has a long way to go, if we are talking about High Quality films. Currently music photos, even episodes like Lost don't take too long to download but for the the dominant distribution market to go digital will take a long long time. Loads of problems, potentially more piracy will occur, that annoying DRM issue, if your computer dies and even if there was a back up vault, it would take ages to download eveything. We would be forced to buy bigger and bigger hdds (lord knows its happening with ps3) ona regular basis, eeither that or we pay to rent movies like Sky but then we wouldn't own anything. This all a bit hypothetical and hyperbole I know but I cant see this working as main means of distribution.
@free agent
I know people start commenting on xbox vs ps3 again for some reason. But the blu ray success was in part down to the PS3. Blu ray is integral to the PS3 sure the games will always be but it would be worrying if blu ray dropped off that quickly. Yet I don't think it will, the real question is will blu ray replace dvds?
In a way ps3 already has digital distribution and xbox with the SD films. So like Gingo says this is an alternative way of obtaining games, music etc. For example Warhawk how many of you bought it and how many downloaded it?We have the choice I can't see one overtaking the other.
you have a point even though this comment is not in favour of digi distribution I to have all my music and photos all saved on data. However there is something about games and films that just wont take off I feel.
Sorry for rant
Looks back for more LBP info..starts drooling again
You can sell a used movie on a disc, not a download.
theres to many reasons why i think digital downloads sucks----
1. there non resellable
2. all it takes is a hard drive crash and there goes everything
3. I like to have a shelf showing my collection.
4. cant take it to a friends house
5. bandwidth issues
6.Having the physical thing you paid for.
and lastly but not least microgay 360 supports it. HOWeVEr there is one thing that I think that may cause blu-ray to cease. THEIR freakin prices. Sorry but 30$ is a friggin RIP off. The most Ill pay for ANY movie is 20$.
lets put it this way: socom will be coming out as a dl and disc for same price. what will win in amount sold??? pretty stupid question. it'll go the same way as gt5p which killed it's online dl part. disc's are better. a bird in the hand is woth 2 in the bush.
also dl sucks as u can't share a game with your mate. also more complicated and the average person doesn't have a clue about dl. they also don't know about bd. it's complication that makes people afraid of technology. bl is more complicated than dvd hence it's slow adaptation
Sorry, Sammy, but people do like to own a PHYSICAL object, especially movies. Unless internet speeds are 100x faster in 5 years, I doubt people will still be wanting to wait for days to download a 50GB movie.
Wow, I didn't think Samsung could be any dumber than they are. Downloadable content will, for decades at least, be an alternative. Firstly, you would need a vast series of hard drives to be able to make the kind of dvd or blu-ray collections that people have now even possible. Secondly, people don't trust downloaded content for permanency because it is subject to being obliterated by hardware or software bugs. Not to mention that it's so easy to delete that people will inevitable do it by accident. People want a solid product they can hold in thier hand. Thirdly: the baby boomers still have no idea how to do the necessary steps. Fourth: High Speed internet companies (I'm looking at you Comcast) are so buggy and screwy it would take forever to complete a download, not to mention they are about to set a standard by imposing a bandwidth limit on users.
Do your homework Samsung, and fix your phone service!
Samsung - I disagree. We will start to buy more Blue-rays in five years as the DVD format will say goodbye. Only threat I can see is that companies as Sony decide to sale there movies on a flash memory sticker. I cannot see how the memory sticker will become cheaper than the disks. Furthermore, downloading Full HD movies requires quite some bandwith...
I can see the Samsung guy downloading the movie for 3 hrs while the Sony guy rents it in 5 mins...
I learned the hard way with warhawk, so i want the disc. Even though losing warhawk ain't much, it would still be nice to get on and own some scrubs
i reckon downloadable distribution is the way of the future i hate swaping discs it doen't feel right and don't worry about your internet it will get much faster in 5 years
interesting point he's made. i think blu ray has a reasonable future, dvd has ben around a long time now but i think the downloadable concept will catch on in the next five or so too. i like to own the physical item, and for me dvd is serving a good medium, cheap now and looks fine when upscaled on my ps3... blu ray is superior but with technologies such as 4k 2k and the like blu ray might be a transitional technology. have to wait and see!
1-58 all the same opinion, i agree with all of you, no hdd is dependable enough, hard copies will be preffered.
technology doubles roughly every 11 months or so. 1TB harddrives are readily available. 5 years from now, we'll have at least 10 TB harddrives. flash drives are steadily increasing in capacity, and with new research being done in that sector, we'll have flash drives with hard drive capacity before long.
the samsung rep is probably from korea. the average BB speed in korea is ~8 times faster than average BB speed in US. faster speeds approaching 20-30MB/s for the same price as US 3-4MB/s. the age of DD would seem a lot closer in their minds (and other countries as well) than for the US. US has been lazy with upgrading infrastructure, mostly because the US is too freaking big. maybe major cities will get wiring upgrades, but US won't spend the money necessary to upgrade the infrastructure nationwide.
That's gonna leave us in the dust though. More things like verizon's FiOS services need to get going. I suspect BB companies will start focusing more on upgrading infrastructure with or without gov't aid within the next few years. And although DD taing over is perfectly feasible for countries like korea and japan within 5 years, there are too many other countries that won't be up to standards for it to happen. maybe 15-20 years down the line it'll be world wide.
we'll all have our personal devices by then. a little doohickey that works as our phone, planner, tv, media player, storage system, computer, car keys, home keys, taser, etc
blu ray may die in the next five years, however samsung's addiction to cocaine will last decades....
Hd download? yeah right im not waiting hours for it to download stupid idea
That's crap. And how big of a hard drive do you expect us to get then? I would rather have discs than use a hard drive to store all of my games or whatever it is I have. I would rather have a shelf of 100 games than 10 hard drives laying around waiting for me to put one in just to play a game. that's stupid. cable internet is not fast enough even for a super large file. it would still take hours to download a single game when you could just go out an buy the game on a disc and instantly play it (or almost instantly).
yeah well by then ps4 will be out with the new componet so im not worried at all about this
That's a very week statement. Everybody wants to forecast the future, but have no clue what will actually happend. My guess is that Samsung has some financial interest with downloadable content.
While I love the idea of strictly downloadable content i still want the ability to back it up to disc and at 50 gigs a pop it takes a huge chunk out of the stacks of external drives you'll be racking up with all the supposed downloadable content........provided your ISP allows you to download that content at a realistic speed (STOP INTERNET THROTTLING)
For this to happen then they will have to design a tv with something built in that enables downloading and playback of movies and is simple to use.I cant see people that dont know much about technology knowing how to download a movie to the pc,how to make sure it works properly and then how to actually hook the pc to a tv.
I can see downloads taking over in the future but in a longer time than 5 years.
I dont know why these companies believe that digital distribution will be key, they have to understand that all homes built do not run fiber optic cable, they run coax cable, id understand if everyone i mean "everyone" had high speed internet coming from a fiber optic modem, so for those of you who claim to have fiber optic high speed internet i hope for your sake that your house is wired for such a feat if so kudos so if in 5 yrs the cable company decides to run fiber optic cable into every single house then they better start now
What Samsung and Microsoft fail to recognize is that the United States does not have the infrastructure to handle large data transfers by the current consumer base let alone the future base. In addition, not everyone wants to pay the price for the speed needed to make downloading a high definition movie worth while. In addition, even with terabyte drives do you know how many you would need to keep all you video games and movies? Me thinks both companies have been hitting the wacky weed pretty hard. Eventually it will happen but not in 5 years or even 10 years.
digital downloads?? bahhaha. we have just seen fios which is costing Verizon a LOT of money. not only is the average download speed in the US around 6mbps but also hardly anyone really uses digital download. I can see Blockbuster going out of business however because a lot of ppl either buy blu-ray/dvd's or rent them from Netflix.
5 years is NOT a long time. I for one am not a big fan of digital distribution.
you have got to be out of your mind to beleive this Garbage. physical copys r always better. i admit i have some downloaded content of my own but if u give a person a choice of a hard copy or a digital copy the hard copy will win out every time for two reasons. 1 it gives the illusian of getting more for your money because u can turn it digital and have another copy to cary on the go. 2 i cant tell u how many problems come from digital copys from reformate deletions. errors in copy, or simply just misplaceing it some where in the hardrive. simply enough hard copy. ps samsung i guese u guys haveing put out an hd dvd player for microsoft had nothing to do with that comment. see u in 5 years when i predict sony releaseing a new 5 layer blu ray dis with a tera byte.
Speaking of blueray........i just bought transformers! YEA!!! hahah lol
i dont like the digital distrubution format personaly, i prefer hard coppys of things i buy, i dont want just 1s and 0s, i want to physicaly own it
Digital downloads are not worth waiting to watch a 2-3gig video, when I can go to the store and watch the movie in an instant, or rent on Netflix or buy Blu-ray, either way Blu-ray wouldn't be beaten by digital movie downloads, not in a lifetime.
whatever, with downloading threholds, even the fastest speeds takeing a hour and a half to to download a movie crippling your connection, still about 30% of people without access to affordable broadband. Yep this seems likely.
How can people be this dumb?
This guy has to think of all the consumers around the world before stating something like that. Most countries won't be able to provide technologies to their people that would be able for them to be able to download huge media files at a convenient time (e.g. Fiber Optics). So there won't be a worldwide demand for downloadable content which means it's not going to be succesfull anytime soon. I would say the very earliest downloadable content will be a bigger demand then hard copy media will be at least 15 years from now.
now i regret givin my buisness to samsung buyin a 52 inch LCD JUST to play my ps3 n watch blu ray >.> if blu ray is gonna be over samsung can have their HDTV back
So many comments.
what a lot to read ... so I didn't read it all but wanted to say that The Samsung statement is b0ll0x. Yes Download Distribution will become more important but I predict that blu-ray will remain the storage mainstay for media/games for the duration. We may start to see games on SD cards but I think that's a long way off as the preoduction costs are still too high. Bluray-RW will make it into PC's before too long and people will slowly move away from DVD which just isn't big enough
I can't see this happening in five years time when
1. Internet speeds meay will probably be faster, but I doubt fast enough to download Blu-ray quality content, in a reasonable amount of time.
2. There will always be people that want a hard copy
3. For downloadable movies to truly take off, home media centres will need to become popular first (eg. Windows Media Centre) and they haven't had too much success yet.
I can see Blu-ray lasting at least 10 years easy.
Also why are they saying this when music downloads have yet to fully replace physical media.
there is no way i see blu-ray dead in 5 years time. only because there are a large amount of people who still buy blu-ray movies online or at shops, on the other side the downloadable distribution is usless it cant download anything quicker than going out and buying a blu-ray movie its just waste of time & uses far to much space to download, id rather stick to buying the blu-ray disks online or instores i never download films. plus blu-ray will surpass dvd in 2-3 years time for what im hearing.
It takes me hours to download 700mb divx so I can't even imagine how long it would take me to download a HD film, can't see BD being beat by this, someone should shut this guy up!
rubbish i tell ya, RUBBISH!