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Jesse Divnich of Electronic Entertainment Design and Research has claimed that Xbox 360 will pull ahead of PlayStation 3 this holiday, in a controversy-courting conversation with Edge magazine. The analyst said Sony should "heavily consider" cutting hardware prices before Christmas.
"[Between Sony and Nintendo,] Sony should be the most concerned [about the 360's price cut]," Divnich declared. "...Going into this holiday season, the PS3 will not only have the highest price point, but also the smallest software library, weaker line-up of exclusive titles (compared to Xbox 360’s Gears of War 2 and Fable 2), and a less popular online network."
Scandalous. We don't know about you guys, but we think Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, WipEout HD and PlayStation Home might have something to say about all that.
Divnich claimed that manufacturing costs underlay Sony's refusal to shave a few figures off the PS3 price tag. "I suspect that the reason why Sony has been so adamant about maintaining its current price point is because it has not reached a more efficient scale in its manufacturing of the PS3."
"Long-term, I don't think anyone doubts the success of the PS3," he went on. "However it is currently looking like the Xbox 360 will win another holiday season against the PS3 in North America."

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Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, WipEout HD and PlayStation Home might have something to say about all that.
crap price cut didnt help last time....200 dollar arcade system is good but not good enough no HDD=nt being able to play alot of games cant download n e thing so arcade being 200 isnt gonna help....60GB 360 @ 300bucks? extra 100 u get free online blu ray n wi fi just to get wifi along will cost u 100 bucks n online is 40 so a 60GB 360 with online n wifi will cost ya 440$ n if u count blu ray thats a different story i think 400 bucks for a ps3 is a bargain i unfortunately couldnt get the bargain >.> paid 600 for mine plus like 200 bucks for circuitcity warrenty which is the dumbest thing i ever done cuz my ps3 wont break >.> so i end paying the amount whihc coulda got me 2 ps3s at this times but ah well i think it's money worth spent
I'm no expert... *Shrugs* But hey, don't forget the new Motorstorm!
Well that's only in north america whilst every where else things are different and they should add that motorstorm 2 is also coming out exclusuif to ps3!
IMO this guy is completely wrong. I think even with price cutt premium X360 couldn't beat PS3 last month, when Microsoft was fasing out the 20 gb versions. furthermore he misses the target with his argument regarding the exclusives!! LBP, HOME, Motorstorm 2, Naruto, WipeOut HD, Socom, Resistance2 and more bright future Heavy Rain, Killzone 2, MAG, GOW3, GT5 will surely make the consumer consider PS3.
Sony will come out with something if they have to. NA is not the only continent for PS3. I think they will do some price cut at some point around christmas
Im presuming this guy hasnt got a clue lol
I don't know, the ps3 actually has a list of highly anticipated games coming out in time for the holiday season, plus the MGS4 bundle, plus Killzone 2 early next year. In terms of a higher price, well shouldn't that be expected by now, the ps3 is always going to cost more. i can see the ps3 just beating the 360 this holiday season.
Hmm... M$ announces price cut becaue there scared knowing they have nothing after GeOW2 for atleast a year. Sony sits nad laughs. We now have WKC along with all the bave people have mentioned. Are killer lineup over the course of the next 6 months will no doudt make consumers stop and think about long term outcomes. get a crapbox now and 6 months have no exclusivs... no High Def player. No or expensive wifi. or pay a extra couple hundred and get PS3 to last 7 years. This guy is wrong. PS3 will take the holiday season.
I believe that the intelligent gamer will invest slightly more for superior hardware, but lets face it there are alot of idiots out there.
Den_UK.. even those poeple will go for PS3 as the Playstation brand is more vivid. Everybody knows Playstation 2 and their favo games of playstation 2 are coming to PS3.
Let's just put it this way, the HOLIDAY SEASON covers two-three months. Even if it does beat the PS3 what exactly is that going to do for the 360. It's already starting to lose worldwide and the M$ lead is already down to less than 4.5 million even with the one year headstart. M$ wasted their year and now are doing anything they can to try and just hold their ground. They're not going to win, they're already losing to sony in sales and have been trounced by wii. Sony may not take first place position for a while, but they will pull ahead of M$ is the next 2.5 years, but that figure make actually drop lower with another price cut. M$ doesn't have enough to offer with their system. You don't move consoles with XBOX Live, it takes games. They don't offer a high-definition format but you can download HD movies over live, but the incredible price drop leaves you with a system that doesn't have the ability to store those movies. A bunch of idiots are gonna bite this price drop for the arcade that can barely do anything cause you can't even save. But it won't affect the overall 360 sales enough for them to pull ahead. M$ has put too much emphasis on making money and not enough on bringing value to their customer. they want all this money, but what will stockholders say in 3 years when you realize that you lost a war with a 1-year headstart. If the 3 systems would have come out at the same time, 360 wouldn't be where it is now and it would be a horrible failure. M$ can monopolize computers (which they can't really do anymore cause they're losing people to apple) but when it comes to consoles they've made wrong turns at every corner.
weaker line-up of exclusive titles
this dude is drunk or something ?!
we have great exclusives and that arcade 360 is meh
hmm hard to believe
omg i predict over than 100 mabyee over than 200 people will comment this + who cares you picked to buy a ps3 u should be happy what you got everybody stop just stop and think about the future not now not yesterday the future the ps2 was pretty expensive back when it was first released but now it's really cheap and lots have been sold, people buy a ps3 because they bought a ps2 and liked it and trust the ps brand so they buy a ps3 like I did to nintendo 64 i liked the nintendo 64 so i got a game cube anyway i reckon everybody here is a ps3fanboy!! who probably checks this site everyday (i'm talking about the people who comment and say the most stuipes things) to comfort themselfs of getting a ps3 other a 360. And i have to agree with this guy WAIT!!! did u see what he said "However it is currently looking like the Xbox 360 will win another holiday season against the PS3 in >North America<." he said in north America meaning the USA have you ever just ever wounded why North America allways gets cool as phones 6 months later than japan because you like to get stuff cheap so around the world ps3 will outsell 360 (btw 360 arcades are cheaper than wii months ago in Aus) were as ps3 in North America will be outsold by 360 once again.
Nice one Jesse ! What a way to come out and talk absolute b*llocks without backing up your comment.
Sony will wipe the floor with them on software sales to start with. This bloke needs to get a reality check. Cutting the price of their system again will only make people think that it's not that good compared to Sony and that no one is buying them.
"...weaker line-up of exclusive titles (compared to Xbox 360’s Gears of War 2 and Fable 2)...."
Damn, Xbox360 has 2 good exclusives this year. How can PS3 beat that?! LOL
I don't find this surprising, disappointing yes, but there was a post somewhere here recently detailing somebody from Sony saying that they can't actually make enough ps3's to satisfy demand.. Sony needs to further ramp up production / farm out to other companies to rectify this problem. More produced = less costs % and then maybe they will be able to drop the price a bit, which in turn might make them beat the 360 sales in NA.
Way to sound like a total biased mother ****** there moron. Not only did you just speak a whole of bull ****, but you never proved or backed up your claims. And weak exclusives? Yup I want to know the **** this c*** is smoking.
weaker line-up of exclusive titles (compared to Xbox 360’s Gears of War 2 and Fable 2) !!! What!
Is this guy on drugs! Where does he live ? under a rock maybe !
Now I am looking forward to gears 2 as I also have a 360, and gears 1 was a good game, but gears one lasted about 6 hours from strart to finish, what else are 360 fans supposed to do? Oh yeah, fable 2 (yawn :( ).
xbox fanboys never give up do they, face it PS3 is better, PS3 has twice the exclusives this holiday system.
So what, they're only referring to America anyway. PS3 is winning everywhere else, especially Europe.
"weaker line-up of exclusive titles (compared to Xbox 360’s Gears of War 2 and Fable 2)"
DID this guy smoke some crack!!! thats TWO!!!! two exclusives. i dont want to start with the sony exclusives.imagine, this guy gets paid millions of dollars to produce information such as that. but in anycase i dont think this will affect sales to much. the ps3 has blu-ray and is the cheapest and best quality blu-ray player out there(i think) i wonder if this guy took that into account whilst he was puffing away. but still has anyone buying an xbox ever thought about all the extra's you have to pay. not to mention getting a crap service,(isn't xbox live supposed to be the best?) the 300MB file limit seems to be a bit on the small side.
go psn infinite file sizes- just hope my hard drive is big enough >.>
And this guy is reliable why?Yeah that's right he's NOT!!
To be fair of all the exclusives this season, Gears of War 2 is going to be massive.
Gears of War 2 is practically their second Halo.
Additionally the orginal Fable was highly acclaimed title.
A|nd lastly the 360's exclusive Fallout 3 DLC that should be a major contributing factor to some.
But I'm more than happy with my Motorstorm 2 and Resistance thank you very much.
On a whole Sony has more seasonal titles and together they may just have a stronger pull, but unfortunately title for title Gears of War 2 (And I'm no fan) is sadly going to trample the competition.
I don't say that the 360 will top Ps3, but it will be close.
I love my PS3, but I wish they marketed and fought for exclusives like the 360.
good point about the extras (wireless connector HDDVD/blue ray for example is £65)
i own both by the way and am in no way a fanboy either way
You get what you pay for, the PS3 is worth every penny
A weaker lineup of 'exclusives'. Dude must be high.
Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Wipeout HD, SOCOM Confrontation, Motorstorm 2, and Valkyria Chronicles vs Gears 2 and Fable 2? That's a weaker lineup?
And what the h*ll does 'less popular' online network mean. What does popularity have to do with it? Sony has an amazing lineup of titles on the PSN (more diverse and unique IMO than the competition), a newly launched movie service, and it's free to play online.
So may I ask: What gives?
lol ^^
Companys only give price cuts because they cannot sell their consoles, and xbox cant sell the 360 hence the price cuts, i see the PS3 and Wii are still going without huge price cuts
lbp,destroys everything the 360 has out and coming out.
who cares i know for sure that PS3 is better
"weaker line-up of exclusive titles (compared to Xbox 360’s Gears of War 2 and Fable 2)"
Yea right. These analyst don't know nothing.Seriously.
PRICE IS EVERYTHING AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Look at many of you. Qore is 3 bucks (TWO if you subscribe) and you still "steal" it. People are cheap. Have you noticed that the Wii is no where near as good as the other two but is killing them in units sold? Sony is foolish not to drop the price. Foolish. Again.
HAHA! Yeah, sure, in North America. Who cares about North America? Europe is the mainland of gaming, and of course people in NA will buy 360. The US of A is economically very weak at the moment, so of course they'll go with the cheaper option. And yeah, you got me there for a second with the "weak software lineup". I'd rather have LBP and R2 than Gays of War 2 and Fable 2.
I don't see it happening. But its possible. But so far PS3 has outsold the 360 every month this year so far and PS3 has a much stronger line up then the 360 this holiday season. But time will tell.
Is it just me or does it look like people are trying to stall the PS3 when its reaching a peak? I mean....exclusive titles don't compare? Very scandalous indeed.
Price point is always a nice thing, but isn't the be-all and end-all as already proven so many times before. The fact is, the PS3 doesn't need a price sut because its doing well to a point. The 360 on the other hand need to push a cheaper price because its stalling in comparison to the PS3 and for the fact that they can't match what the PS3 is offering by the holiday season.
And wasn't Edge magazine heavily involved in some other scandalous statements since the launch of the PS3 that have proven to be utter rubbish? Or am I thinking of one of the other numerous FUD sites out there?
I don't have a 360, but damn the other day I saw the Pro model getting sold for like $189..99 almost made me want to buy it, then I remembered I was broke..
some idiots writing that article? R2, Motorstorm 2, LBP, SOCOM and HOME will wipe GeOW2 and Fable 2 of the face of the earth
psn id: gingo.... see, what people are forgetting is that socom is coming out for ps3, think of the legions of socom fans that still play on the ps2s questionable online support so once they see a ps3 version they will no doubt go and get a ps3 to play that will sell a lot of ps3s along with resistance 2, littlebigplanet, motorostorm 2, home... so this guy clearly doesn't have a clue
Lets look at what PS3 has to offer. Free Online, Blu-Ray which won the HD war, Playstation Store, Playstation Eye, Powerful Console, Built for the Future, Does not break down Like the X360 My Co-Worker is on his fifth one and I still have my Original 60gb Launch PS3 and have had no problems. Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Playstation Home, GOW, Socom, Killzone 2, Motorstorm 2, and Heavy Rain.
X360 has Gear of War 2 & Fable 2.
Which list looks better? One thing to mention, with TV,s going digital in February people are buying new HD TVs and what can be better than watching a Blu-Ray movie on a brand new HD TV.
Just with The dark Knight in Blu ray will be more than enough
I'll Be in socom 24/7 starting today with the beta
"Jesse Divnich of Electronic Entertainment Design and Research has claimed that Xbox 360 will pull ahead of PlayStation 3 this holiday"............ in nirth america.
When will these anal-yst stop spouting nonsense. It is as if america is the venter of the earth. I predict the not only is the PS3 going to outsell the 360 in america but it will outsell the 360 worldwide this holiday season. With Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm, SOCOM: Confrontation, LittleBigPlanet, Resistance 2, Valkyria Chronicles flower, Lumines Supernova, Jeopardy and Home..... not only does the Playstation 3 has a larger more varied and unique line up for the holidays, they do so by offering a mix of anticipated sequels and new IP.
See... I can do it to. Hurray and hire me to become an Anal-yst so I can get paied for talking out my behind.
Dont agree with the exclusive part or online network part,ps3 online if free n best things r free and we do have the best exclusives but that doesnt matter,just look at the wii,its ripping 360 n ps3, its seems price matters n even more now so the ps3 will lose this holiday season n the console war if they dont cut prices,this chrimbo i think is vital for sony, beating the 360 in sales for a few months does not mean anything besides they should at least offer a tempory price cut just for run up to xmas.sony must be very agrassive
umm dont cost hardware price, leave it alone, xbox 360 isnt gonna do that great, these new games are gonna make everyone buy a ps3 or they arnt going to get a system. and isnt this also a blue ray player, your getting what u pay for and its worth every penny.
Anybody who says that the exclusive content will be lacking this Holiday Season for the PS3 has no idea what they're talking about. The article didn't even mention Motorstorm 2, SOCOM, and Valkyria Chronicles.
Resistance 2 can hold it's own with Gears 2. LBP will possibly hold it's own with Fable 2 and will certainly trounce it worldwide. That leaves SOCOM, Motorstorm 2 and a few other PSN titles to eat away at market share and push hardware.
The "analyst" has no credibility. Having said that, another price cut would be highly beneficial for PS3 sales, even if it's only $50.
Well he'll be sacked after these holidays...
Analysts always make me laugh for some odd reason
The 360 can't lay a finger on LittleBigPlanet..and I think everyone is underestimating it...once the casuals get wind of it..its gonna absolutely snowball !! ^_^
Does this guy live under a rock or something? LBP is a bigger exclusive than anything at the moment.
Sorry, guys...he's right. It's about perceived value and without a price drop, the PS 3 will seem too expensive, especially for parents looking to cut back expenses during the holiday season. Best case scenario-for PS 3--they sell approximately the same # of units as X Box.
Does it matter if Xbox 360 sells more than PS3? Just be happy with whatever you have. Selling the most consoles doesnt make it function any better.
The only thing that I'm concerned about is the lack of games. I mean, Sony promissed 100's and 100's of top notch titles and here we are in September 2008 and we still only get a small handful at a time. They really have to fix that.
eagleeye is probably right. what with the present econmic climate across the world.
but most of the people on this site dont have to pay any bills. so that wudnt be the first thing on their minds. thats why you see the comments above like "man this dude is on crack" etc
childish comments from children. btw i got a socom beta code !!!!!
it is a silly battle, but what I hate most I mean the most is when I see a tv show or overhear some kid talking to his parents and they talk about the xbox like its the only console around. Like Nintendo and Sony (not to mention all the others) didnt blaze a deep and wide trail so many years before. M$ has spent so much on advertising and shoving down peoples throat its kinda sick really. Dont get me wrong I almost bought a 360 to play bio-shock. but guess what... it'll be out for PS3 soon hahahah!!!!!! I'll save my money thank you very much.
Bought my 360 yesterday :]
It didnt have wi-fi, I was like: wtf
There is a whole world out there; land and games consoles consumers do exist off the shores of North America believe it or not. I bet Ps3 dominates over the 360 in the rest of the world. Not to mention LBP is going help to appeal to a wider demographic, does the 360 even have any games of that sort?
I strongly doubt that. especially when u compair the two game release sheets. xbox's big game is oceans space, Ps3 LBP Killzone2 Infamous. I dont know about u but if i want a space game im looking at dead space.
It would be a real embaracement for M$ if they doon't win the hollyday season with those prices.
i laughed when i saw the weaker exclusive lineup..haha are you serious..motorstorm, resistance 2, socom, home, lbp, killzone 2..need i say more? and lets not forgot whos titles also come out on pc...yeah thats "exclusive" all right haha
its funny seeing microsoft taking desperate meausres.then saying we are not worrying about sony, when half there sentences its sony and there price, i feel bad for the ppl that buy the 199.99 arcade xbox N get sucked into it . you get what you pay for LOL
360 gaxbox, please somegive them an Iq test.
Hmm will have to wait and see for sure.
all of these who will come out on top questions or comments are ridiculous!!! Did you see what ps3 has coming in the near future like around christmas and beginning 2009. I don't care what any other console has I gotta have my ps3 goods!
I hate to say it.......and i REALLY hate to say it but besides the exclusive line up statment, everything he says I think is true. Right now besides the UPCOMING exclusives, Sony has everything XBox has to offer but xbox has a lower price. The 3rd party games are all same. PS3 is just more ready for the future.... People are CHEAP. They will go for xbox because of the fact its cheaper. Look at the Wii in terms of quality of games. WII GAMES SUCK. Yet the system is blowing away the competetion. I REPEAT, its all about the price. People go to wal-mart over any other competitor, and why? Not because the service sucks, but because the PRICE IS RIGHT.
This is going to be a intresting holiday. What's coming on the PS3 in spades and aces to the Xbox's 360 price cut and 2 exlcusives. Here's my answer.
Too Human flopped, Infinite Undiscovery flopped, Tales of Vesperia was a success, Gears will be a minor improvement over the first gears and Fable 2 will most likely successed but by looking at the game, it's hardley a jump from the first one. That's it for Microsoft, everything else will be a multiplatform battle between the two.
Now PS3 on the other hand, I know, what hasn't been said before already? Metal Gear Solid 4 was critically acclaimed, Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty, and Siren: Blood Curse were received well, Little Big Planet is obviously the title everyone is waiting for, then there is Resistance 2, Valkyria Chronicles, Socom Confrontation, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, Wipeout HD and the Virtual World Home service along with Life with Playstation. Am I missing anything besides the obvious battle for the multiplatform games?
Now the real question is, what is the next biggest thing for Microsoft in 2009?
bull**** i say bull****. there is a reason us americans are called stupid by some people. customers still don't see the glory of having the ps3.
who cares???
What an utter load of BS, the closet 360 to a PS3 is the elite and it still costs $399.99. Besides the xbox has no real exclusives since everything is released on the PC as well. It's pretty sad when all the most acclaimed 360 titles this year have been multiplatform, bottom line for me is if the Crapbox 360 was free I would still pass. I can play Gears or Halo on my PC if I wanted to so STFU Divnich, what are there kick back$ from M$ everytime one of you guys hypes the 360 and bashes the PS3!?
I have two things to say firstly to Poster 15, Rauland. Can I buy pot from you? Sheesh.
Secondly, what good does it do anyone to make a more "efficient" production line when 33% if the machines are F-ing boat anchors.
Sony, keep up the rock solid hardware and the mad exclusives. LittleBigPlanet+PS3 FTW! Fable 2? ROTFL
Did this guy forget about Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, LittleBigPlanet, and Killzone 2?
What's he talking about? 7 of my friends who have been Xbots since the beginning just bought PS3s because of 360's weak line up. It is a very dated machine they'll lower 360s so much that you can get a Wii for the same price. Frankly, i'd get a wii for that money and then get a ps3 if i was a newcomer.
Is this guy dumb? Consoles is not like gas where you find the cheapest. The PS3 is by far the best console to buy (straight out the box). The new XBox are just like the 20GB, hopefully people know that. MS only has a large software base and most of their games sucks. I cannot name ten hot games to buy. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not getting none of the profits, I know I love my Sony products and who doesn't complain about M$ products? Bill Gates complain about M$ products..!
I say this gut needs to do some more research and see who has sold the most comsoles so far this year. One season this far in will not break another console. The Xbox would have to sale less then the Wii in order to do great this season. Most of the people who have Xboxs are getting PS3s because their Xbox broke and they are tired of paying for XBL.
hmm.. not really sure that will happen. The PS3 has been outselling the 360 by more and more units lately and there is no indication that the 360 price drop has changed that situation either.
You can tell that edge magazine is bias. Everyone I talk to says they'll spend the extra money to have the blu-ray player alone... not to mention exclusives that outshine Gears of War 2... like SOCOM Confrontation, which a lot of Americans will want to get involved with.
so what if 360 cuts the price, their games are nothing compared to ps3s. resistance2, killzone2, pshome n romours state that they might be remaking final fantasy 7 n if thats the case 360 doesnt stand a chance. so analyst go fly a kight
this guy might be right. Nevertheless the ps3 has a good number of games coming out in a couple of monts from the homiday season. So people could still buy the ps3 in view of these titles.
Maybe Sony is not cutting the price because they are selling well right now.
as for having a weak line up for the holidays i LOL'd at that comment.
Another friend of mine got the red ring of death yesterday :) As far as sales; lots of people with 360's are now looking towards the PS3 this Christmas because of MGS4 and LBP. Even though the reviews have been great for LBP, I think most are going to be amazed at the sales of this game. It's got such a wider audience than something like MGS4. I think most people that want a 360, have one already. For people who wanted a PS3, they probably wanted a better selection of games, a cheaper price, and see if Blu-Ray would win out. Well, now they got what they wanted. Of course with the economy being not entirely stable...they could go for the "cheaper" console ;)
Whatever, I dont care. Im not going back to Xbox anymore.... all I know is Ive got a great system PS3.
"weaker line-up of exclusive titles"
This guy is high on crack! Can you say "paid-off"?
@ 15
Its like one....really....really long sentence.
Bull. PS3 will beat 360.
He might be right
PS3 will dominate this year and next! (if the games arn't held back to badly)
Sounds to me like ms is paying these people to ?
That's a lie. Playstation home, sony Headset,Sonic Unleashed, Naruto, final Fantasy. they better get there facts straight. Ps3 Graphics are a lot better than xbox 360.
360 will win the console wars because along with the price cut a surprise release will be avalable with it. Yep. MGS4 will no longer be a PS3 exclusive. A slightly toned down version will be released on 6 dual layered DVD disks. Also for some even more bad news, MGS5 is currently being made exclusively for the 360 which will consist of 14 dual layered DVDs. MS also has plans on releasing a 360 that will hold 30 DVD disks for huge future games to combat the PS3. MS spokeperson on this special event said: I like playing the 360 naked and so do many others in our offices.
More speculation, but one vitalpoint hs been overlooked. Parents buy what they can afford and don'tknow the difference between consoles so maybe not sucha daft prediction after all. I would be suprised if US region was led by PS3 because of patriotism alone. It will be close and interesting to watch though
@94
hahahahahha nice.
Ok, Fable 2 will not sell systems, i'm sorry. Gears will. But not enough to beat all the exclusives sony has.
Not by a long shot!!!!!! Sony is been in the game for a long time now, they know what they're doing,
@15, heard of spellcheck?, and he calls us ps3 owners "fanboys who check this site everyday." IMO I think it is "the most stuipes thing" to buy an xbox over a ps3. By the way both my friends who have xboxes got the RROD. I'm convinced that I bought the better console. Do you speek English much or were you in a rage when you were typing. LOL