With the realism of these games today.. Anything that envolve killing something is going to get this rating.. Its no surprise.

Anyone find that the downloading of the update for the beta version took donkeys years last night? I left it running went to bed and found this morning that it had completed and i had been sedding and doing my bit. All i need to do now is have a go tonight......cant wait!

is the EU beta up and running yet, i downloaded it but always get a network server error?!

@richkaos

All I have to say is, if the BETA is supposed to expose flaws, the biggest flaw we will see right off the bat is the crashing of the server because everyone and their brother has been invited to this BETA.  It's going to be insane.  I mean, I don't work on Mondays (which gives me a great advantage to play on day one because that when it opens) and I don't have high hopes of getting in.

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And I don't know about the EU BETA servers, but we got the same fo rthe NA and all I did is try a few more times (Peer to Peer) and downloaded very early in the morning.  It worked.  Just keep trying.

Or you can order it online because noone asks your age...

well you need to go and use the recommended peer to peer download as opposed to the server or http download, it took ages to get going but eventually it found about 20 hosts

Anything less than an "M" rating would mean I'd probably just rent it.

14 year old boy- "Mom there is this really cool game coming out and Im really looking forward to it. I saved up the money and I have a meeting to go to. Would you mind picking it up for me?"

Mom - "Sure I guess"

Kids aren't stupid, and most adults are cluless about MGS. Trust me, they will find a way. I know I did when I was that age. Of course the most mature game then was Mortal Kombat. Parents knew about it though.

It should be rated 'A' for Awesome! Right? Right? High five anyone?

Does this mean that it will be an 18 here in the UK?

Give me a break, it's not like we didn't already know that MGS4 wasn't going to be rated M. Every other MGS game has been rated M and there's no reason why MGS4 would be rated anything less than rated M. There's really not too much blood in the MGS games, but it's definantly should be rated M and is for hardcore gamers only. MGS4 is less than 2 months away, I just can't wait.

@aclayps3

Every other mgs has not been rated M, I have Sons of liberty and it is a 15.

like that matters much...i can hear a lot of kids playing online games with mature rating.

Im not to sure about any thing involvling killing having auto M because of Uncharted, but as it is going the movies are getting more lenient ratings then games.

Umm, Mature is 17+ in the US, not 18+.

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Nobody will have a hard time getting a copy of this.  Anyone who wants this game, or any game for that matter, will find a way to get it.  eBay sellers never ask for age.

I thought it would be pretty obvious that MGS would get an M rating.  I bet Killzone 2, God of War III, and DMC5 will all be Mature too.

The worst thing about MGS4 getting an 'M' rating for Violent content is that Hideo has a long history of using violence to tell his stories, as well as addressing the consequences of  violence (MGS3: The Sorrow, anyone?) and the negative effects of war in general.

It's rare in MGS games that the game player is encouraged to mindlessly slaughter opponents like so many FPS do.

And were we really expecting something else

Strong language? A first for this series. In the first couple MGS games the most we got was a "Damn!" Or "You Bastard!"