Kojima needs to say "Die, Snake" to move on from MGS

  • Posted April 3rd, 2008 at 06:25 EDT by Mike Harradence
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Metal Gear Solid creator Hideo Kojima has said that the only way for him to move on from the popular stealth series is to firmly admit plans to kill off the series main protagonist, Solid Snake.

Speaking to IGN, Kojima commented, "I really don't want to say that this the final game or this is the wrap up," adding, "But if I don't say it, people will make me create MGS again!”

"So I have to say, 'Die, Snake,' and really end it so I can move on to something else!” he admitted.
 
Even so, Kojima added that the series may continue even without the appearance of the lovable gruff hero, commenting, "Actually, it's a game, so even if Snake dies, the game can live on."
 
"Maybe it'll be a novel or a comic – I do have some ideas,” he said.
 
Despite this, he went on record to state that he would not be as heavily involved with the project as with previous instalments, adding, "However, I have to say that I'm not going to do everything if we were to create it. Maybe I'll just produce or maybe design the game and just act on that role, so I won't be the total creator of that series if it happens."

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is due out worldwide exclusively on PlayStation 3 on June 12.

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  1. Triple Dk | TripleDk

    • 6:30am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    This means that Snake might die in this game =O

  2. chubacca

    • 6:33am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    I love games like MGS but I am worried that many of these great games are pushed past their use by date in order to make a quick buck. For this reason I admire Kojima for being strong enough to stand up to both Konami & Sony and say enough is enough! I really hope MGS 4 is a goodbye we wont ever forget.

  3. Marcelis | Marcelis

    • 6:34am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Somewhat hard to imagine a creator wanting to kill off a character like this, but it does make sense.

    @Triple DK :I think you're right. The chances of him dying in this instalment are high

  4. Dave-The-Rave | Dave-The-Rave

    • 6:35am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    I honestly think the big twist at the end will be that he won't die..cause everyone is expecting him to !! I expecting that scene with the gun in his mouth..then Meryl or Otacon runs in and stops him...though maybe he dies "naturally" from the foxdie "X" years after the end of the game..so then it sort of give the ending Kojima wants were people think he is dead but if he wanted to in the future he could make more games taking place between the end of MGS4 and his death..

  5. Odium_Generis_Humani

    • 6:38am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Whereas this makes me sad, to tell the truth the Metal Gear Universe has become bigger than Solid Snake, introducing a ton of characters who are cool in their own right.  I mean, sometimes it seems (when I read MGS fan posts) that Big Boss is more popular than Solid Snake!  Anyway, I think the MGSU(niverse) can go on without snake.  There will always be war (and you can always clone more, lol).

  6. princevegeta1980

    • 6:40am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    for me mgs 4 will be the best of the serie, i can't imagine another mgs not being made by kojima

  7. MatrixSixaxis

    • 6:49am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Let Snake R.I.P.........let Kojima rest!

    Snake has gone through a lot.....and so has Kojima!

    I think this may be the greatest MGS story ever told and will have the most incredible visuals ever seen....for MGS.

  8. Anim3Fr33K | Anim3Fr33K

    • 7:00am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    A change of character would bring some new life in to this well aged series, Snake is bad @55 and it will be h311 hard to top him but just maybe they will be able to create another character on par with him.

  9. Staticneuron | Staticneuron

    • 7:08am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Snake is a clone..... is there really a point of us discussing his death? I am sure the project that made hime still has big bosses genes in a lockup somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if snake dies and we get to play another type of solid snake.

  10. solid79 | solid79

    • 7:21am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Tears well up im my eyes everytime I hear that snake might die. I can't and won't believe it until it happens. 

  11. AZURA-DRAGON | Azura-Dragon

    • 7:28am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Noooooooo snake!

  12. Alti | Alti

    • 7:31am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    I think that's the best route to go on. End the story and all of the questions, and just leave it to other deveopers to come up with stories and whatnot. I mean, I'm sure we all want more MGS.

  13. Odium_Generis_Humani

    • 7:41am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Let's all say it together:

    "Snake!?  What's happening?! Snake?  Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!

  14. Lotus

    • 7:43am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    ah kojima you lovable pushover, "snake?, snake?, SNNAAAAKKKKEEE!!"

  15. darklsins

    • 7:49am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    "chubacca - I love games like MGS but I am worried that many of these great games are pushed past their use by date in order to make a quick buck. For this reason I admire Kojima for being strong enough to stand up to both Konami & Sony and say enough is enough! I really hope MGS 4 is a goodbye we wont ever forget."

     

    funny thing is i dont think kojima needs to stand up to sony or konami at all...

    its the crazed fanboys and fangirls out there that preasure him to constantly make a new mgs game... i remeber this artical that said kojima recived death threats from fans if he wasnt involved with mgs4... so if you wanna blame someone  blame the fans....

  16. Sevket_Erhat

    • 8:25am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    If this new badass Raiden shown in MGS 4 trailers is not playable I surely want a game with him in the lead .

    I will stay away from all reviews and such until I start playing the game myself 

  17. Deusthousand | Deusthousand

    • 8:59am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    TO O G H; Isnt Big Boss actually the original snake?Yeah I think so he is named big boss after he defeats boss in Snake Eater.

  18. kudoshinchi | kudoshinchi

    • 9:10am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    this is probably the last greatest game of this year and the future. I don' think we will get any good game wih good storyline

  19. Odium_Generis_Humani

    • 9:15am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    @ Deusthousand

    Yes, you are correct, MGS3's Naked Snake = Big Boss.  But the article addresses the fate of SOLID Snake, the hero of the missions in MG, MG2: Solid Snake, MGS, and the "Tanker Mission" in MGS2.  I was just stating that many old fans of the series really took a liking to Naked Snake's (Big Boss's) story from MGS3 and MGS: Portable Ops (PSP), and that the Metal Gear World may be bigger than just Solid Snake. 

  20. Dave-The-Rave | Dave-The-Rave

    • 9:42am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    "snake? SNAKE? SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE !!!??......wait, he is actually dead this time !!? My bad"

     

    Lol

     

    @sevket: An MGS game in control of one of the ninja characters would completely ruin the feel of it.. I actually hate Raiden even more now..cause he is a gay character that is suddenly stronger than the badass that is solid snake..they better have another crotch grab to him again in this to make fun of him and I also want to see scene were he ABSOLUTELY NEEDs to be rescued by snake !! Can't have him being stronger now can we !!?? lol

  21. hush404 | hush404

    • 9:53am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Man, Kojima doesn't want to let him go! :D

  22. DeadOnArrival06 | DeadOnArrival06

    • 10:45am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    I just love the way that sounds, "Exclusively on PLAYSTATION 3" !!!

  23. Rav3nas | Hawkeyes315

    • 11:31am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    if snake dies raiden will continue the story

  24. Rav3nas | Hawkeyes315

    • 11:31am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    if snake dies raiden will continue the story

  25. taurus82 | taurus82

    • 11:43am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Have Konami done a fighting game yet?, if they have it would be nice to see more from them.

  26. gingo | gingo

    • 11:54am BST - April 3rd, 2008

    psn id: gingo.... so really this is the confirmation of Snakes death but as long as he completes his mission it will be a satisfying end

  27. D3v1lwqer23 | gingo

    • 12:50pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    If Snake dies, Raiden carries on...but if you recall in one of the trailers, raiden was seriously beaten up, maybe by Vamp.  Which if Raiden dies, it will be that other possible, younger clone we all say in the trailers.

  28. AclayPS3

    • 1:15pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Man, Hideo just can't say good-bye to his creation. I don't blame him. If I created a game title from scratch and see it build up and be successful, it would be hard for me to let go. But, Hideo is right, he probably wont be able to move on from the series unless he kills off Snake in the main story. I would hate to see Solid Snake die, but something is telling me that in MGS4 Snake will die.

     

    But, if Snake dies, I would like to see MGS series continued with Raiden. Raiden has been shrouded in a lot of mystery since he first appeared in MGS2 and I would like to him in a Metal Gear Solid game as the main character.

  29. Rav3nas | Hawkeyes315

    • 1:18pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Raiden is no Snake. Raiden is still considered a kid character.

  30. Odium_Generis_Humani

    • 1:28pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Well, Raiden has to grow up sometime.  In the game Metal Gear, the was Snake's first mission.  Everyone has to start somewhere.

  31. Soviet-Messiah | Soviet-Messiah

    • 1:39pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Wow thanks for the spoiler! Now I don't need to play it!

  32. Cesarcsrf | Cesarcsrf

    • 2:20pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    i say the dead od Snake to the Rise of PS3 like the phoenix from the ashes of glory i'm poetic ah..

  33. blacksharinganx

    • 2:29pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    snake will die but he will return >:)

  34. InfernoReaper | GrimDarkling

    • 2:45pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Egh, I hope they don't pull that Halo 3 ending crap.

  35. zombieking36

    • 3:00pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Oh come on! He just gave away the ending!

  36. psn_frov | frov

    • 3:51pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Well expect Snake to die

  37. dandad1

    • 4:27pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    He can always bring him back to life, Its like Sherlock Holmes, Sir Arthtur Conan Doyal killed Sherlock because he was tiered of writting about him but brought him back to life later because people wanted more, I could see this happaning to Snake, you never know.

  38. Anim3Fr33K | Anim3Fr33K

    • 7:27pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Snake can be killed but the mass market demand will revive him, its not hard sinse as he is a clone well use your imagination.

  39. SpikeDX

    • 7:43pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    why does kojima hate the game that made him who he is. i mean sh!t come on this game has gave him so much fame as the creator of one of the biggest franchises in gaming history and he wants to kill it off?

  40. Pablo0620 | Pablo0620

    • 10:35pm BST - April 3rd, 2008

    Hideo Kojima-san...you are a god in the gaming community. Dont ever leave us

  41. darklsins

    • 12:37am BST - April 4th, 2008

    "Well, Raiden has to grow up sometime.  In the game Metal Gear, the was Snake's first mission.  Everyone has to start somewhere."

     

    i think the real question here is not when raiden grows up

    cause lets face it unless the stupid snake fanboys growup from loving snake only

    raiden will always be a sissy in their eyes...

  42. Odium_Generis_Humani

    • 8:36am BST - April 4th, 2008

    @darklsins

    I'm not gonna lie, you have a point.  Shoot, I'd also be lying if I said Raiden couldn't use a nice gruff beard or something, lol!  You know, toughen up the look of his design...

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